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You can stil play Khalida's archers. Her points are there.

I would like to see the return of the TK as stated by many players, many a times.

It would be nice to see an undead faction not afilliated with Nagash.

They may get a ranged build for the cavalry and/or the foot troops. Probably not but it’s possible.

 Niiai wrote:
You can stil play Khalida's archers. Her points are there.

I would like to see the return of the TK as stated by many players, many a times.

It would be nice to see an undead faction not afilliated with Nagash.

Alot of the undead only serve him because they must.

Quite a large number of Flesh Eater Courts are his enemy.

Many of the Undead including "his" Mortarchs (well maybe not Arkhan) would turn on him given an opportunity - what that would mean for them is however unclear.

The new Mortarch seems loyal (like Arkhan)

 Niiai wrote:
You can stil play Khalida's archers. Her points are there.

I would like to see the return of the TK as stated by many players, many a times.

It would be nice to see an undead faction not afilliated with Nagash.

I think the Ossiarch release was likely the final nail in the coffin for a TK release. They kind are doing what TK did with the constructs and what not.

I think the legends book that is going to get released is going to be the last solace for all TK players with their old models.

 Sasori wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
You can stil play Khalida's archers. Her points are there.

I would like to see the return of the TK as stated by many players, many a times.

It would be nice to see an undead faction not afilliated with Nagash.

I think the Ossiarch release was likely the final nail in the coffin for a TK release. They kind are doing what TK did with the constructs and what not.

I think the legends book that is going to get released is going to be the last solace for all TK players with their old models.

Specifically, yes, of course, especially since they were effectively killed off. However, constructs were only about a third or a fourth of the Tomb Kings shtick, with their unchangeable archery, mummies, and light chariot units rounding out the lot. The really odd part is that Nagash IS Khemrian, so that should influence his kingdom.

To be honest, I would like to see the Ossiarchs get a light archer unit they can spam a little like the Beastmen have with the Ungors and bring back some chariot units to complete the flavor, at least a little bit. It may "put the final nail in the coffin for TK", but I think that there is just as good a chance of the Squats returning to 40K as that happening (as disappointing as that is), so those of us hoping are just humoring ourselves on that front.

Asuming they still have the molds for the last wave of tomb kings they already have quite a bit of models. They would need ti create something new. It could be a very small army. (Although I realise the ushapti and other finecasts are gone.)

It's hard to say what moulds they still have and in what condition those moulds could be in and even if they are easily accessible or even if the know where they are in the archives.

I know that they've had metal moulds come up for legacy castings and the mould has just broken or degraded on them right at that moment (Morathi on the Pegasus in metal was one such case where it broke and they had to remove her from sale).

Plastic moulds tend to last a lot longer ,but I believe they are also bigger than metal ones (?) so it could be that storage space for them is important and that GW might have melted them down instead of store them.


Honestly its impossible to know what GW has in the archives, although in general they do appear to hold onto a LOT of their stuff adn also the rights to produce it. This gets somewhat annoying when they do short print run books and still have all the means and rights and gear to print more but just don't. Heck I was very pleased to see them do another print run of Libre Chaotica; but again it was a one time print run and once the stock was gone it was gone. Great afor anyone with money and desire at the time, but for such a tiny time window it means its a right pain for anyone who didn't have the money or wasn't into chaos (or even GW) at that time.

You can see how Wargames Factory produces plastic miniatures and how Iron Wind Metals produces metal miniatures. The processes are quite different from each other.

The big leader guy is pretty cool looking. His assistants are...oddly Samurai-esque?

The four-armed fellas are okay. Not particularly amazing, but okay.

The catapult is a bit too silly looking, and it's mounted on a big grub which is also a bit silly.

The cavalry are okay looking, though the whole line is weird looking - a few too many unnecessary components on each limb. They don't look as purposeful as a normal skeleton would.

The basic guys: gak stupid looking. However, it's mostly due to the heads/faces, so that should be an easy fix.

The highlight is the big leader, for sure. Overall the whole army just looks like a vague design that wasn't really fleshed out before it was put into production. I hate to say it, but the army feels like an army Mantic would design/build (only they'd do it in cheaper plastic). It feels like a line of bad guys from a Saturday morning cartoon, and not in a particularly good way. I hope people can convert/paint them to look far more sinister or cool, because the basic infantry guys are almost comically silly looking.. Definitely not a big win for me. Odd, too, considering that GW has always had a very strong capability to design and sell Undead kits (excluding the awful Zombie kit dating from 1999 or whatever).

For me I think they all look really cool, except for the big boss. He looks fat. And I can't wrap my mind around the idea of a fat skeleton, not even one that isn't actually a skeleton, but made up of skeletons....he just looks fat!

Looks more like he's wearing heavy armor than being fat...

Yeah I’m not seeing fat... he’s wearing a body made of bone, sculpted to look like a well toned humanoid, in a similar way to ancient Greek and Roman statues.

I figure if someone paints him and separates body and armour with a different colour you'd have a different impression. I also agree, he's not fat he's sporting a well muscled body; in fact if you look at wrestlers and the like you'll actually see the gut gets quite large. It's not so much fat as it is the body layering on muscle to avoid twisting damage from the exercises that they go through. They are training the whole body not just a segment of the muscles to stand out.

The sculpted body-builder look is actually a carefully sculpted thing and many of them do very specific exercises to avoid the gut getting thicker. They also often dehydrate themselves when going on show, which makes their muscles stand out all the more on the body.

Also, most body builders with sculpted muscles are not nearly as strong as big thick strongmen. Look at the beast that played the Mountain on Game of Thrones, or Olympic powerlifters.

Oh I agree, if he had skin he would probably look more like someone I would describe as beefy. Which would in no way be a negative. However, he's bone...and a thick boned humanoid figure is not something I can really imagine. I'm not looking at him and thinking he's a buff skeleton.

So according to the cool French rumour dude, Ossiarchs will be mid October. Who knows if that’s true, but means we may potentially see some articles on them soon.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
So according to the cool French rumour dude, Ossiarchs will be mid October. Who knows if that’s true, but means we may potentially see some articles on them soon.

Mid October would be great, but who is this cool french dude?

He’s the dude who’s been spilling a bunch of rumours about the new 40k campaign.

 Tiberius501 wrote:
He’s the dude who’s been spilling a bunch of rumours about the new 40k campaign.

Are his rumours accurate or have they yet to be proven?

I could be wrong, but I think he may be the one who was right about the Raven Guard and Iron Warrior’s release schedule and some of their abilities. But I think there might be another guy who’s also been spilling similar rumours, so that may have been the other dude.
He’s saying the first 40k campaign book about the Eldar is quite early in October so we might see if he’s right about that soon.

I can see GW releasing battletomes, then the new 40K stuff then Ossiarks. Especially as the new 40K campaign should be just a one week release so an easy one to slot between two AoS releases.

Yeah I agree. I’m keen to see. I want to get a closer look of those leaders, and a taste of the juicy tactical rules!

Well GW said they'd be October, early is obviously out of the question so that leaves mid or late October.

Actually early is only out of the question if they aren't previewed tomorrow Which would honestly be very surprising. So yeah mid to late -

No way they will launch them one week after a double battletome release.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
No way they will launch them one week after a double battletome release.

While I don't think they would do this normally, if they were going to do it, CoS and Orruk Warclans would likely be the time to do it. They don't have any terrain or endless spells. It's really just the tomes. I also can't imagine a signficiant number people are going to be buying a ton of new CoS models either. What I am saying, is basically I don't think this release would impact the sales of any Bonereaper stuff.

That being said, I don't think they will either. There is plenty of 40k stuff for a buffer. I do think we are looking at a two week release for this tome and range though.

I hope you're underestimating the impact of Orruks and Cities - whislt they might not have models they are both landmark Battletomes (esp Cities) and should hopefully translate into a lot of people buying into the armies where they've otherwise been on the fence or waiting thus far.

I kind of doubt it. New players would still have to direct-order 90% of their army from GW, at full price, for CoS, and I feel like it's mostly old players holding on to their armies that will benefit from it. Warclans might have bigger impact, but again, it feels often that people enjoy the gloomspite's variety far more than the "basicness" of orcs,and the tome doesn't seem to do much to help that.

I'm sure there will be new and returning players happy with the books, but it will not generate the same buzz and revenue as the nighthaunts or idoneth would.

Or get the start collecting sets. I've also noticed that GW is steadily reducing Direct Order Only. In fact its already possible for 3rd party stores to stock and supply them, just not with the same discount level.

Plus I think its more than old fans, though online they will make the most noise about it.

Reapers are probably mid to late Oct. We have the Underworlds gangs next week then I'd expect the Salamanders and Fists supplements cuz that abomination train has no brakes.