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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 08:21:34
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Red Corsair wrote:BrianDavion wrote:I could see GW doing subfaction rules. however it might just be for a SINGLE subfaction. consider black legion in vigilius ablaze.
Brazen Beasts, The Purge, Red Corsairs, Flawsless Host and Scourged as well as Black Legion. Sure BL got the most but there was plenty of other subfaction rules as well. Either way it would be something more then the usual. I would agree that it will be less then the marines are getting, but I doubt if anyone else gets that kind of treatment and honestly I am fine with that, if all 20+ factions got 6 supplements... Well, you can see where I am going 
Granted, the minor ( RC is about legion strength nowadays it seems) got comparativly nothing.
Id also rather get updates to the Fw armies then supplements for everyone and their mother.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 08:33:24
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Oui!
Can you be so kind as to help us with an accurate translation of Kikasstou's latest rumour posts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 09:56:54
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:00:22
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Red Corsair wrote:BrianDavion wrote:I could see GW doing subfaction rules. however it might just be for a SINGLE subfaction. consider black legion in vigilius ablaze.
Brazen Beasts, The Purge, Red Corsairs, Flawsless Host and Scourged as well as Black Legion. Sure BL got the most but there was plenty of other subfaction rules as well. Either way it would be something more then the usual. I would agree that it will be less then the marines are getting, but I doubt if anyone else gets that kind of treatment and honestly I am fine with that, if all 20+ factions got 6 supplements... Well, you can see where I am going 
I specified black lgion only because they got multiple relics and warlord traits. give em a psykic table and they've got as much content as the space marine books (super doctrine aside)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:02:51
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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BrianDavion wrote: Red Corsair wrote:BrianDavion wrote:I could see GW doing subfaction rules. however it might just be for a SINGLE subfaction. consider black legion in vigilius ablaze.
Brazen Beasts, The Purge, Red Corsairs, Flawsless Host and Scourged as well as Black Legion. Sure BL got the most but there was plenty of other subfaction rules as well. Either way it would be something more then the usual. I would agree that it will be less then the marines are getting, but I doubt if anyone else gets that kind of treatment and honestly I am fine with that, if all 20+ factions got 6 supplements... Well, you can see where I am going 
I specified black lgion only because they got multiple relics and warlord traits. give em a psykic table and they've got as much content as the space marine books (super doctrine aside)
Any doctrine and working trait aside you mean
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:05:45
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Not Online!!! wrote:BrianDavion wrote: Red Corsair wrote:BrianDavion wrote:I could see GW doing subfaction rules. however it might just be for a SINGLE subfaction. consider black legion in vigilius ablaze.
Brazen Beasts, The Purge, Red Corsairs, Flawsless Host and Scourged as well as Black Legion. Sure BL got the most but there was plenty of other subfaction rules as well. Either way it would be something more then the usual. I would agree that it will be less then the marines are getting, but I doubt if anyone else gets that kind of treatment and honestly I am fine with that, if all 20+ factions got 6 supplements... Well, you can see where I am going 
I specified black lgion only because they got multiple relics and warlord traits. give em a psykic table and they've got as much content as the space marine books (super doctrine aside)
Any doctrine and working trait aside you mean 
eaither way, they're certainly more fleshed out then the renegades. although the renegades bit would be intreasting to see sometimes too. if say... one of the Psykic awakening books takes place on a new forge world, they can give a trait etc for that forge world to admech players. Just for example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:33:53
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Just tried to make sense of Kikasstou's posts- pickup this -he's saying the Sisters box is ETB and the real kits will arrive later. If so that maybe frees up release slots for further eldar? I'd thought if SoB were coming in November there was no room for more eldar but if its just the army box they could fit in further aspects. [which makes sense of they are updating the exarch rules. SoB box at end of November, full release for them in January maybe?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:51:19
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Sorry I'm out at the moment - I'll send one later when I'm back at a computer. Probably as a pm if that's OK?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:54:38
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 10:55:40
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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silverstu wrote:Just tried to make sense of Kikasstou's posts- pickup this -he's saying the Sisters box is ETB and the real kits will arrive later. If so that maybe frees up release slots for further eldar? I'd thought if SoB were coming in November there was no room for more eldar but if its just the army box they could fit in further aspects. [which makes sense of they are updating the exarch rules. SoB box at end of November, full release for them in January maybe?
Kikasstou has also said that the current known releases are all eldar will be getting this PA volume (paraphrasing somewhat but the jist is there).
Sorry dude. I doubt we'll see more eldar this release.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 11:13:14
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Basically it says the Craftworlds will have their own rules like the SM supplements. One can expect Craftworld specific rules, warlord traits, and strategems.
If they actually expand the background of each Craftworld a bit more, beyond a one paragraph blurb like the old 3rd edition Craftworld Codex, then this would be the most in-depth examination of each Craftworld ever. The Iyanden supplement was not bad but I thought a lot of it just went over old ground like Yriel and Kraken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 11:21:04
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R
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Hallowed Canoness
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An Actual Englishman wrote:Awesome French Dude wrote:The PA supplements apart from the fluff they will bring new additional rules to the original Codex. The Craftworlds for example are going to have their own world-class ship to do as in the SM supplements . So we can expect specific rules of world ships, warlord traits, powers and dedicated strats. Anyway we should have concrete very quickly it is expected early October. Then there will be the new AoS faction and end of October the IF / Sally.
Did you Google Translate that? «Vaisseau monde» should read “Craftwold” not “world ship” lol.
Also not sure what else you want to know. Your translation explains basically everything. We should have explicit infos on early October.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 11:28:35
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: An Actual Englishman wrote:Awesome French Dude wrote:The PA supplements apart from the fluff they will bring new additional rules to the original Codex. The Craftworlds for example are going to have their own world-class ship to do as in the SM supplements . So we can expect specific rules of world ships, warlord traits, powers and dedicated strats. Anyway we should have concrete very quickly it is expected early October. Then there will be the new AoS faction and end of October the IF / Sally.
Did you Google Translate that? «Vaisseau monde» should read “Craftwold” not “world ship” lol.
Also not sure what else you want to know. Your translation explains basically everything. We should have explicit infos on early October.
Yes I google translated it. I figured 'world ships' was craft world but couldn't be bothered to change it.
I want to know more about the other quotation I've provided from kikastou, that seems to go into a little detail on what we can expect for the Aspect rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 11:50:12
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Hallowed Canoness
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This one : An Actual Englishman wrote:Here's the lowdown on his take on Psychic Awakening - very positive, in my opinion (emphasis mine); Awesome French Dude wrote:I read somewhere that there would be powers for the exarch aspect in PA Volume 1. 5 or 6 available by exarch (Example: to say to avenge there is one who passes them in CC / CT 2+) . This replaces the one in the profile. With a 1pc stratum it adds up. I also read that there will be rules for Drukharis but also for Ynnaris
Which is pretty clear already? I can fix it without looking at the French. “I read somewhere that there would be Exarch powers in PA book 1. 5 or 6 powers available by exarch (Example: avengers have one who makes them WS / BS 2+) . This replaces the one in the profile. With a 1pc stratagem you can get two powers. I also read that there will be rules for Drukharis but also for Ynnaris” Automatically Appended Next Post: Found the French original. Not clear if you can use the strat multiple time to have 3+ exarch powers.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 11:57:36
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Dakka Veteran
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An Actual Englishman wrote: silverstu wrote:Just tried to make sense of Kikasstou's posts- pickup this -he's saying the Sisters box is ETB and the real kits will arrive later. If so that maybe frees up release slots for further eldar? I'd thought if SoB were coming in November there was no room for more eldar but if its just the army box they could fit in further aspects. [which makes sense of they are updating the exarch rules. SoB box at end of November, full release for them in January maybe?
Kikasstou has also said that the current known releases are all eldar will be getting this PA volume (paraphrasing somewhat but the jist is there).
Sorry dude. I doubt we'll see more eldar this release.
Ah- probably for the best- my bank account couldn't take the hit of a full aspect release! Hopefully we'll get some more stuff later and not have to wait a couple more years!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 12:01:58
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:This one :
An Actual Englishman wrote:Here's the lowdown on his take on Psychic Awakening - very positive, in my opinion (emphasis mine);
Awesome French Dude wrote:I read somewhere that there would be powers for the exarch aspect in PA Volume 1. 5 or 6 available by exarch (Example: to say to avenge there is one who passes them in CC / CT 2+) . This replaces the one in the profile. With a 1pc stratum it adds up. I also read that there will be rules for Drukharis but also for Ynnaris
Which is pretty clear already? I can fix it without looking at the French.
“I read somewhere that there would be Exarch powers in PA book 1. 5 or 6 powers available by exarch (Example: avengers have one who makes them WS / BS 2+) . This replaces the one in the profile. With a 1pc stratagem you can get two powers. I also read that there will be rules for Drukharis but also for Ynnaris”
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Found the French original. Not clear if you can use the strat multiple time to have 3+ exarch powers.
Thank you for the help sir! I didn't get what CC/ CT 2+ meant! That makes things clearer. Top man.
Automatically Appended Next Post: silverstu wrote:
Ah- probably for the best- my bank account couldn't take the hit of a full aspect release! Hopefully we'll get some more stuff later and not have to wait a couple more years!
Yea fingers crossed there will be steady releases for Eldar moving forward, the benefit of staggered releases is that it gives us slow hobbyists time to paint all of our new bits!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 13:10:36
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Hallowed Canoness
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You are welcome, I completely forgot that CC as WS and CT as BS wasn't self-evident because I'm so used to it  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 13:42:09
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
You are welcome, I completely forgot that CC as WS and CT as BS wasn't self-evident because I'm so used to it  .
To be fair, we've kind of glossed over it, but that's pretty big right? DA are currently taken in some Eldar lists - having their exarch give the squad 2+ WS and BS seems decent.
Hopefully there's some game changing abilities in this book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 13:46:27
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Hallowed Canoness
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Not sure the 2+ WS will help but, the 2+ BS is nice.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 13:58:23
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We'll have to see.
But unless they change Jain Zar for example, it seems to create some oddities where a Banshee Exarch with Piercing Strike can get S7 Damage 3 attacks while Jain Zar gets S6 Damage d3 attacks. Sure, Jain Zar can get more Attacks but somehow it still seems wrong for the Exarch to be able to land higher Strength hits than the founder of their Aspect.
Mathematically going from 3+ to 2+ is not as good as "re-roll failed to-hit rolls".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:01:06
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Hallowed Canoness
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Iracundus wrote:Mathematically going from 3+ to 2+ is not as good as "re-roll failed to-hit rolls".
That's true. But the former combo better with “Reroll 1 to hit” aura than the latter, you'll have to admit  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:05:34
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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I assume that’s just the Autarch’s WS/BS. It’d be pretty good if he had duel shurikans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:06:28
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Hallowed Canoness
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The French phrasing seems to imply it's the whole unit (“les passe” implies plural of affected units) but it's not very clear.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:08:23
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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That would surprise me greatly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:10:45
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:The French phrasing seems to imply it's the whole unit (“les passe” implies plural of affected units) but it's not very clear.
That seems incredibly powerful compared to the normal 4++ on himself. I wouldn’t say no though haha. I’d just put that on all my Avenger Squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:38:39
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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It shouldn't. I said ages ago that this would most likely be the case. (Well, monopose, not necessarily ETB.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:44:27
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - rough new info re contents of books p40
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Since people confuse "monopose" with "easy to build", it might be true.
If someone confuses the two concepts, of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 15:54:07
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Crimson wrote:
It shouldn't. I said ages ago that this would most likely be the case. (Well, monopose, not necessarily ETB.)
They aren’t the same thing. Monopose is par for the course now. ETB would surprise me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 16:49:46
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Lieutenant General
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The banner on Warhammer Community is interesting:
So that either confirms Drazhar's identity or is a big spoiler for the 'Phoenix Rising'.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/28 16:59:15
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Ghaz wrote:The banner on Warhammer Community is interesting: So that either confirms Drazhar's identity or is a big spoiler for the 'Phoenix Rising'.
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