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2019/10/06 23:58:35
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
“new customisable Craftworld Attributes that work like the Successor Tactics in Codex: Space Marines! You’ll also find rules for Drukhari Obsessions (specifically for the Kabals, Wych Cults and Haemonculus Covens)”
TheFleshIsWeak wrote: Whilst DE apparently get their subfaction traits and nothing else.
Well, also Drazar and new Incubi rules if I understood correctly.
Whelp. More rules bloat I guess as I'm not expecting a bunch of Warlord Traits, Relics, and Strats. Better internal and external balance for Eldar would be good though.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2019/10/07 01:40:37
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
The weird thing is, it’s so easy to do dual kits with Eldar Vehicles.
Wave Serpent/ Falcon
Fire Prism/ Night Spinner (check)
Vyper/ 5-man assault transport
Works pretty much done. All you’d have to do is freshen up the kits, add a couple more weapon options in the case of the Wave Serpent, Falcon and Vyper, then profit.
I’m honestly confused by how GW handles the Eldar line. Have been for a long time.
One of them filthy casuals...
2019/10/07 02:25:26
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
I will most likely purchase this. However, I do acknowledge the models will be made available for sale at a later point and I anticipate the rules in this boxset will be a 'beta version of rules for a new codex to be released some time in 2020. With that codex release, we will see more Aspect Warriors in plastic.
No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby.
2019/10/07 02:59:52
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Sarigar wrote: I will most likely purchase this. However, I do acknowledge the models will be made available for sale at a later point and I anticipate the rules in this boxset will be a 'beta version of rules for a new codex to be released some time in 2020. With that codex release, we will see more Aspect Warriors in plastic.
Yeah I think you are right. It would seem like the logical thing. but with GW you just never know.. I really hope I can find someone locally to go halves with so that I can at least recoup some of the costs. I normally would not bat an eye lid and buy to re-sell but honestly I am not confident in being able to shift all that junk and make enough to claw back with the P&P + ebay fees.
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
While I appreciate the Vyper, it's one of the worst aging models in the line. While the base aesthetic is okay, the build quality is very poor/frustrating. All of the older Eldar vehicles need a mold cleanup/re-cut if they don't get replaced. I did chuckle though while building three Falcons a couple months ago. I assembled three at once, and found three completely different plastics. One was the oldest pale plastic from the launch in the 90's (they used to be almost white). Then was a darker plastic, and then a third intermediate grey. That damn kit has been around for 22 years...and it shows.
Back to the Vyper. I had a couple, and just didn't care for them, so I sold them on. If they re-do the Vyper they need to bring back the damned fighting platform from 2nd edition. Why? Because it's cool. Instead they gave that stuff to the Harlequins and Dark Eldar. The Vyper with a fighting platform was never actually a model, but it was in the codex and was a cool idea, particularly back when Exarchs were characters. You could have a Phoenix Lord or a Farseer, Warlock, Exarch etc. zipping around the table on the back of one.
The Falcon is in desperate need of rules adjustments. It just serves such little purpose. Shifting it to a Transport might help? The Vyper is decidedly okay but sits in the quagmire of 60-90 point light vehicles, none of which really shine. I replaced mine with two Hornets which are better in almost every single regard and nearly as cheap now.
2019/10/07 03:57:34
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Darsath wrote: The contents of that Box just look like they're trying to shift plastic kits that don't sell to players who want to buy the new Howling Banshees/ Incubi kits. It's a pretty scummy move from Games Workshop if so.
Ummm that's been modus operandi for discount boxes for year. Nobody should have been surprised. They aren't going to put best selling kits on discount boxes.
If you don't want them wait for solo kits to appear. These will sell out anywav
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2019/10/07 03:58:35
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
The vid seems to confirm that drazhar is a midget compared to jain zar. seems like in nu 40k, good guys are always bigger and better than evil one. What a sad turn of event
lost and damned log
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039
2019/10/07 04:58:34
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
streetsamurai wrote: The vid seems to confirm that drazhar is a midget compared to jain zar. seems like in nu 40k, good guys are always bigger and better than evil one. What a sad turn of event
I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but this was always the case. The Phoenix Lords are all considerably larger than most Eldar, and the original Jain Zar model was bigger than the original Drazhar model. This isn't a new thing.
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2019/10/07 07:25:37
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
New Obsessions for Kabals, Cults and Covens. They'll have to be really good to compete with existing ones (particularly for Cults and Covens), but the idea that the DE are getting nothing is flatly contradicted by the article.
My point is that both Craftwords and DE are getting subfaction rules. However, Craftwords then get both an extra psychic discipline *and* a whole table of powers for every one of their exarchs on top of that.
Whilst DE apparently get their subfaction traits and nothing else.
streetsamurai wrote: The vid seems to confirm that drazhar is a midget compared to jain zar. seems like in nu 40k, good guys are always bigger and better than evil one. What a sad turn of event
I mentioned it earlier in the thread, but this was always the case. The Phoenix Lords are all considerably larger than most Eldar, and the original Jain Zar model was bigger than the original Drazhar model. This isn't a new thing.
Yea but since Drazhar is rumoured to be an ex-phoenix Lord surely they should be roughly the same height?
It's also just a general aesthetic thing. The two opposing heroes from their faction are generally equal in stature to show that the duel will be a close one. Typically, if any of the duelists is to be larger, it's the 'bad guy' - to give a David vs Goliath type vibe.
Not overly impressed with these models to be honest. The Incubi are awful, they look static but have rigid, standing streams that imply movement. Drazhar looks good as a model but is too short and static. The banshees are OK and I like how the squad looks together. Jain Zar I love but she has divided opinion.
And that's it.
Meanwhile SM get release after release of awesome miniatures. Say what you like about the cowboy Dread or Primaris marines, but as models they are phenomenal. It almost feels like the Incubi and Drazhar were designed 10 years ago or rushed or something. They don't feel like they've been developed by the same model company that makes primaris marines.
2019/10/07 07:52:01
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Sad to see that Banshees appear to be a 5-man box. Beside meaning they're probably going to be pricy, that means in a unit of 10 you're most likely going to have a double of each model except the exarch. While the models and poses are nice, the poses are so distinct that it's going to be noticable they're duplicates.
Redemption wrote: Sad to see that Banshees appear to be a 5-man box. Beside meaning they're probably going to be pricy, that means in a unit of 10 you're most likely going to have a double of each model except the exarch. While the models and poses are nice, the poses are so distinct that it's going to be noticable they're duplicates.
I don’t think anyone was expecting the Banshees to be in a box of 10. All Aspect Warriors have come in boxes of 5 for a while now.
Overall, I think this box is a hard miss for me. The contents as a whole just looks uninspiring. Unless there are considerable changes to the Falcon and Vyper, I’d just be buying this box for the Banshees, of which, unless they too have also had big changes, I’d probably never field in a semi-competitive game anyway.
As always, I’ll wait for the reviews to come out before making a decision, but, I’m pretty much certain that I’ll be giving this one a miss and just waiting for the kits to come out separately in 6-12 months time.
2019/10/07 08:43:49
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
As a craftworld collector, the drukhari part of the box is the only reason to buy it.
Its probably fun tho play the scenarios in the box though, as they are designed for the specific content.
I would not even bother to build the 5 banshees -If they somehow tweek the rules so its worth taking a unit of five, people will just spam their metal/fincast instead.
Really looking forward to the campaign book though. Better preorder it early on, GW stuff always sell out these days.
Drazhar is decent, but not a Phoenix Lord. Okay, maybe there will be a comic called "Lil' Phoenix Lord," but he shouldn't be one. He's just a really skillled Incubi. Arhra. Now there's Phoenix Lord, but he's fallen to Chaos, and Drazhar obviously doesn't have his suit, otherwise he would be notably larger. Drazhar can bling himself out all he wants to with broken spirit stones and other stuff, but a real Phoenix Lord doesn't need to try so hard to get attention. Just a poser. :p The Incubi have nice detail, but are static in their poses, and those arm streamers of rigidness just plain look bad. Definitely not sculpted to the motion, or lack thereof, of the models. Drukhari have a very short list of kits for plastic now, those being Grostesques, Mandrakes, Beastmaster + Beasts, and the Archon's Court; a couple of generic HQs would round things out nicely. Very happy to see this release for all of the Drukhari players out there.
Jain Zar looks good, as do the Banshees - properly leaping around and dynamically posed. While I am very happy to see new Aeldari plastic kits, the lack of attention paid to them over the years means they have quite the laundry list of plastic kits needed, those being kits for...
1. Avatar of khaine
2. Warlocks
3. Scouts/Pathfinders
4. Asurman
5. Shining Spears
6. Warp Spiders
7. Karandras
8. Striking Scorpions
9. Baharroth
10. Swooping Hawks
11. Feugan
12. Fire Dragons
13. Maugan Ra
14. Dark Reapers
That is a crap-ton of units that have been mostly ignored for more than a decade. Insanity. They really need to redo the Falcon, Vyper (both of these are among a handful of remaining models form the old pantograph days of mold making, and in no way compare to the exacting fit of the newer computer created models), and Guardians/Storm Guardians. Add to that new and emergent Phoenix Lords for Warp Spiders and Shining Spears, because people will buy them if they make them.
Is there any other army that has been given the sort of red-headed step child treatment that Aeldari has? Not even close. And so I hope there is more still on the way, because 10+ years is an egregiously long time to wait for what is only now the second plastic Aspect Warrior kit to be released.
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2019/10/07 08:55:02
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Except not, because incubi and succubi are the same, shapeshifting demons. But then again, expecting GW to know their donkey from their kitty when it comes to real-world anything is a bit much.
The whole box is just sad. DE side of it is okay I guess, but the craftworld part is a bad joke. Understrength unit of banshees, hero and two ancient vehicle kits does not enticing deal make.
2019/10/07 09:24:28
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Eldar- 4436 pts
2200pts/1750 painted
2800pts/1200 painted
2200pts/650 painted
217pts/151 painted 
~4100
~1660