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2019/10/16 15:22:13
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
look at the sw primaris sc box, its basicly a generic marine box with an upgrade sprue, they might do the same for one or both of the marine christmas boxes
2019/10/16 16:26:43
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Nurglitch wrote:It's like the game itself. Those people demanding structure are in the majority, and the imaginative minority that wants a sandbox will do their own thing regardless of official lore.
It's like people forgot that their own imagination exists. or they forgot they could use it. or people are just becoming more and more reliant on what others come up with(like netlisting).
Yes because NOBODY would ever have figured out any broken lists ever with how poor GW releases rules!
Stop attacking this imaginary "netlisting" and attack the core problem itself: shoddy rules writing.
I think you missed my point.
Which was, that since netlisting is a thing, it's far easier to have zero knowledge of how to actually build a list without anyone telling them how.
If the rules were so shoddy how is it that many, many, many players have no problems with the rules and how the game functions?
Back on topic
I hope that the eldar box doesnt set the precedent for future PA sets. if they just include 1 or 2 new models and are filling them with "filler", this will end up being lamer that scheiss.
If the story is as light on actual consequences/stakes this just doesn't bode well for the rest.
2019/10/16 17:25:15
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Nevelon wrote: They could put in the chapter specific HQs, or units. Even if they don’t, the upgrade sprues might be counted as part of the value of the box.
Still might be worth it. Will be interesting to see full contents when that gets leaked.
I assumed the "MS start collecting Vanguard" is space Marine stuff. releasing a special marine box is proably a bit much if we're also getting a new start collecting box.
this is also good as it means at least when Shadowspear runs out people will have a way to get supressors and they won't be a "yeah you missed box x so screw you" unit.
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2019/10/16 21:09:22
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Nevelon wrote: They could put in the chapter specific HQs, or units. Even if they don’t, the upgrade sprues might be counted as part of the value of the box.
Still might be worth it. Will be interesting to see full contents when that gets leaked.
I assumed the "MS start collecting Vanguard" is space Marine stuff. releasing a special marine box is proably a bit much if we're also getting a new start collecting box.
this is also good as it means at least when Shadowspear runs out people will have a way to get supressors and they won't be a "yeah you missed box x so screw you" unit.
Would not make a shabby start collecting box. You can get the Lib/Captain seperate, so I’d not expect to see them bundled, but if they are I’d grab a box instantly.
Nevelon wrote: They could put in the chapter specific HQs, or units. Even if they don’t, the upgrade sprues might be counted as part of the value of the box.
Still might be worth it. Will be interesting to see full contents when that gets leaked.
I assumed the "MS start collecting Vanguard" is space Marine stuff. releasing a special marine box is proably a bit much if we're also getting a new start collecting box.
this is also good as it means at least when Shadowspear runs out people will have a way to get supressors and they won't be a "yeah you missed box x so screw you" unit.
Would not make a shabby start collecting box. You can get the Lib/Captain seperate, so I’d not expect to see them bundled, but if they are I’d grab a box instantly.
yeah my guess is thats the box. it's actually a pretty nice box and I'd be tempted by it. Supressors and Eliminators are some of the best Primaris units right now.
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2019/10/17 09:39:40
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
AngryAngel80 wrote: I won't lie, I don't even have use for them in Deathwatch yet and I'd be pretty tempted to pick up that SC box if those are the contents.
speaking as someone who collects both marines and chaos marines I think the chaos box would be the better of the two,
you're looking at 2 CSM posssed, 10 CSMs, a venom crawler and 2 oblits.
granted I'm a bit concerned as this isn't a typical SC box, but I can't see how they could cut the sprues any differant way so.. I dunno..
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2019/10/17 11:25:50
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
AngryAngel80 wrote: I won't lie, I don't even have use for them in Deathwatch yet and I'd be pretty tempted to pick up that SC box if those are the contents.
speaking as someone who collects both marines and chaos marines I think the chaos box would be the better of the two,
you're looking at 2 CSM posssed, 10 CSMs, a venom crawler and 2 oblits.
granted I'm a bit concerned as this isn't a typical SC box, but I can't see how they could cut the sprues any differant way so.. I dunno..
I do hope that we get full sprues though.
I can't stand the shadowspear squad of csm.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2019/10/17 14:11:48
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
look at the sw primaris sc box, its basicly a generic marine box with an upgrade sprue, they might do the same for one or both of the marine christmas boxes
Generic marine box with completely unusable HQ (gear illegal for all SM but wolfwolves) kinda killing the point for anyone who doesn't play SW. Discount is so low you might not even bother without usable character. I am puzzled why they didn't made DASC instead, at least their loadout problem (plasma pistol on Lt) can be easily worked around by swapping the pistol to bolt one or sword to fist, making him legal for other SM.
2019/10/17 15:34:06
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
GaroRobe wrote: They did something similar with the AOS starter set (SC v K)
They released both sides as Start Collecting. Though, I want to say it wasn't every model. I think some of the bloodreavers were missing iirc.
I'm not expecting that to be an issue with this stuff. Mixed sprues make it hard to split things out unless they're willing to remove the items from sprues themselves.
2019/10/18 06:09:40
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
look at the sw primaris sc box, its basicly a generic marine box with an upgrade sprue, they might do the same for one or both of the marine christmas boxes
Generic marine box with completely unusable HQ (gear illegal for all SM but wolfwolves) kinda killing the point for anyone who doesn't play SW. Discount is so low you might not even bother without usable character. I am puzzled why they didn't made DASC instead, at least their loadout problem (plasma pistol on Lt) can be easily worked around by swapping the pistol to bolt one or sword to fist, making him legal for other SM.
more importantly though a SC box averages about 100 bucks, netting you 1 HQ, 1 troop and one "special thingy"
why on earth would anyone buy a SC vanilla marine box when you could just buy Know no Fear for the same price?
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2019/10/18 07:38:32
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
I can tell you one reason, shoulder pads. I had to cut and saw and file off shoulder pads from starter marines for Deathwatch, wasn't super fun. I have Space wolves, so the character and upgrades worked well but used the models for Deathwatch reinforcements with free to place shoulder pads.
That is one of the only reasons I would say the SC box is better than the know no fear box. As well I haven't tried my hand at cutting the bolt rifles to place the right bits for the different variants on the starter primaris marines so not sure how hard that would be to make them the appropriate type I'd want.
2019/10/18 07:55:10
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
AngryAngel80 wrote: I can tell you one reason, shoulder pads. I had to cut and saw and file off shoulder pads from starter marines for Deathwatch, wasn't super fun. I have Space wolves, so the character and upgrades worked well but used the models for Deathwatch reinforcements with free to place shoulder pads.
That is one of the only reasons I would say the SC box is better than the know no fear box. As well I haven't tried my hand at cutting the bolt rifles to place the right bits for the different variants on the starter primaris marines so not sure how hard that would be to make them the appropriate type I'd want.
true the differant rifle types are actually useful now, although the standard rapid fire is useful eneugh that you're proably gonna have a squad or two of them,
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2019/10/20 15:07:38
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Battle sisters, astra militarum, alpha legion, night lords, emperor children,word bearers, world eaters, iron warriors,salamanders, white scars, black templars..
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2019/10/20 15:13:15
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Battle sisters, astra militarum, alpha legion, night lords, emperor children, world eaters, iron warriors, black templars..
if they drop world eaters AND emperors children codexes and models on us I'm gonna be so happy
Please oh please oh please let's see new Berserkers and Noise Marines!
Unlikely, give the release schedule is approximately 1 month from announcement to delivery and both new EC/WE kits and codexes would likely have much more build up.
Probably a vague mention for the factions that aren't SoB with the focus on SoB primarily on their full release.
Something like Vigilus book 1 I'm guessing.
2019/10/20 15:48:06
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Wonder if it will will be a Sister v Chaos boxset. Can't imagine them giving us a sister battle box and a boxset in a short time frame, though after all this time, it could be a popular move. Maybe that chaos sorcerer from the old rumor engine will be the big bad for the chaos half.
2019/10/20 15:57:01
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
GaroRobe wrote: Wonder if it will will be a Sister v Chaos boxset. Can't imagine them giving us a sister battle box and a boxset in a short time frame, though after all this time, it could be a popular move. Maybe that chaos sorcerer from the old rumor engine will be the big bad for the chaos half.
The rumour is BT vs Chaos (could be Daemons, or CSM I guess) boxed set.
2019/10/20 15:57:06
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Unlikely, give the release schedule is approximately 1 month from announcement to delivery and both new EC/WE kits and codexes would likely have much more build up.
Probably a vague mention for the factions that aren't SoB with the focus on SoB primarily on their full release.
Something like Vigilus book 1 I'm guessing.
Your probably right but....
Book one gave us two new character models and two new unit kits. The Sisters are getting a full release regardless of the book and the World eaters already have a signature character in plastic. So assuming book two has about the same number of releases, Berserkers and Noise Marines would cover the two unit kits. While the EC and BT(+upgrade pack because loyalist SM) get the two characters.
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2019/10/20 17:27:58
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - OP updated with rumoured release schedule
Whatever happens november will be packed in terms of release with SoB codex, BT and maybe something for chaos.
I might be a little pessimist but I don't really think chaos will get the awaited berzerker / noise marine but will rather get a kit for the obliterators and the venomcrawler.
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