Psychic Awakening N&R - FAQs p.183.

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**xttz**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
How old is the current hive tyrant? Is it really in that much need of a remake? It looks fine to me, ditto with termagants?
I mean, its not bad, but aren't there still finecast models that should be brought to plastic?

2012 for the Hive Tyrant, and it's getting re-packaged not re-made. That just means new box art and assembly instructions with 8E rules.

**MiguelFelstone**

zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

Blood Angels haven't even been an army for 20 years (i think they were called Angels of Death).

**zend**

MiguelFelstone wrote:
zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

Blood Angels haven't even been an army for 20 years (i think they were called Angels of Death).

3rd edition was 20 years ago now, which is when the BA codex debuted.

Feel old yet?

**Togusa**

posermcbogus wrote:
Am I the only person who's feeling totally burned out on PA? Like they started off by pushing it REALLY hard, and so far...?

Very underwhelming. PA1 was barely interesting, PA2 comes with very little, and seems to be designed to play second banana to the SOB debacle, the Inquisition dex drops in that it doesn't and is relegated to a few pages of WD, and then a "Made to Order" re-run of all things, despite the only coherent thread through all of PA being the inquisitor character, until that was dropped for...

...More first founding loyalist chapters? Which is a pet peeve of mine, considering they have SO MUCH support anyway, and I'll be thoroughly shocked if any of the dead 'nids in that trailer get anything at all. PA is starting to feel like a half-hearted swing and then a resounding miss. I was looking forward to it, but now it really just seems like filler to justify slopping out a few unrelated characters just before Xmas.

Half-baked, and a cynical approach to fans.

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

**JSG**

MiguelFelstone wrote:
zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

Blood Angels haven't even been an army for 20 years (i think they were called Angels of Death).

Blood Angels have been around since RT. Angels of Death was just the name of the book that had both BA and DA rules in it.

**MiguelFelstone**

zend wrote:

Feel old yet?

Yep, thanks for that ^_^

**xttz**

Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

**Togusa**

xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

**Dudeface**

Togusa wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

The kits are early 2020 and was sold out in under 5 minutes so no models for sisters players for 2-3 months now.

**Kirasu**

MiguelFelstone wrote:
zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

Blood Angels haven't even been an army for 20 years (i think they were called Angels of Death).

What in the world are you talking about? They were on the boxset for 2nd edition.

**Togusa**

Dudeface wrote:
Togusa wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

The kits are early 2020 and was sold out in under 5 minutes so no models for sisters players for 2-3 months now.

Are we sure? I recall GW saying that the other models were on their way "Soon" and I'm thinking soon means December.

**ImAGeek**

Togusa wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Togusa wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

The kits are early 2020 and was sold out in under 5 minutes so no models for sisters players for 2-3 months now.

Are we sure? I recall GW saying that the other models were on their way "Soon" and I'm thinking soon means December.

No, they’ve said early next year, and the release schedule for the rest of the year leaked weeks ago and they aren’t on there.

**casvalremdeikun**

MiguelFelstone wrote:
zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

Blood Angels haven't even been an army for 20 years (i think they were called Angels of Death).

Man, my 3E Blood Angels codex is really well done for a knock-off.

**Voss**

Togusa wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Togusa wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

The kits are early 2020 and was sold out in under 5 minutes so no models for sisters players for 2-3 months now.

Are we sure? I recall GW saying that the other models were on their way "Soon" and I'm thinking soon means December.

We are. It doesn't. At best it means late January or February.

**MiguelFelstone**

Kirasu wrote:
What in the world are you talking about? They were on the boxset for 2nd edition.

My mistake, i started playing during 3rd, could have sworn there were no Blood Angels until the late 90s, should have said "correct me if i'm wrong" and you did.

**The Phazer**

Kirasu wrote:
MiguelFelstone wrote:
zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

Blood Angels haven't even been an army for 20 years (i think they were called Angels of Death).

What in the world are you talking about? They were on the boxset for 2nd edition.

I think the inference is that they were just Space Marines rules wise until the release of the 2nd Ed Codex Angels of Death.

But CAOD was published in 1996, making it 23 years old (* pulls grey hairs out of beard *), so the point still isn't valid.

**Redemption**

Mephiston is looking quite healthy in the new banner art for Blood of Baal:

Especially for one generally described as a walking corpse.

**AlmightyWalrus**

Blue eyes, flowing, golden hair, described as a walking corpse.

Arthas?

**Galas**

Arthas has found a new hobby after he was kicked out of the Helm of Domination.

EDIT: Great minds think alike, Almighty.

**Mr Morden**

xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

They sold out within 1 min of going on sale in the uk (I was lucky to get one) which was frustrating to many - GW appologised for massively underestimated demand in latest Warhammer Community post

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/18/sisters-of-battle-situation-report/

**SamusDrake**

Never mind Mr Stephanie Meyer and his sparkling boys - where's the real stars of the show who have more teeth than the entire Osmond family?

Somehow I think GW are playing this from the wrong angle. Whatever next? Smurfs in power armour?

**Togusa**

Voss wrote:
Togusa wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Togusa wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

The kits are early 2020 and was sold out in under 5 minutes so no models for sisters players for 2-3 months now.

Are we sure? I recall GW saying that the other models were on their way "Soon" and I'm thinking soon means December.

We are. It doesn't. At best it means late January or February.

Just saw the article from today, it's in early January. Not that long to wait.

**Dudeface**

Togusa wrote:
Voss wrote:
Togusa wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Togusa wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

It's limited edition...that's sort of the point, isn't it? The kits will be along by Christmas.

The kits are early 2020 and was sold out in under 5 minutes so no models for sisters players for 2-3 months now.

Are we sure? I recall GW saying that the other models were on their way "Soon" and I'm thinking soon means December.

We are. It doesn't. At best it means late January or February.

Just saw the article from today, it's in early January. Not that long to wait.

They mention early next year and January separately, previous rumours said Feb so I'd suggest preorders for last week in Jan possibly? Either way there's a player base out there for an army with an updated codex they cant buy for 2+ months which is a poor showing, even if they didn't release the kits.

**warboss**

I hope his revamp is as epic in quality (although not size) as Abaddon's was recently. They really knocked it out of the park on that one in that they respected the original art/model's design while updating it to modern standards. I love that original 2nd edition codex pic of Mephiston and am looking forward to seeing it in figure form.

**macluvin**

The real crime for the sisters debacle is the amount of boxes that are on eBay... people are reselling them for nearly double the original price...

**Coenus Scaldingus**

Mr Morden wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

They sold out within 1 min of going on sale in the uk (I was lucky to get one) which was frustrating to many - GW appologised for massively underestimated demand in latest Warhammer Community post

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/18/sisters-of-battle-situation-report/

Let's not overdo it - it was 12-13 minutes in the UK, apparently about 30min in North America. Which is ridiculously fast enough as it is! And it would have been even faster if everybody could have accessed the website and it hadn't been slowed down due to the amount of visitors...

**Dumb Smart Guy**

zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

lol imagine being a marine player and acting this aggrieved in 2019

**WhiteDog**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

They sold out within 1 min of going on sale in the uk (I was lucky to get one) which was frustrating to many - GW appologised for massively underestimated demand in latest Warhammer Community post

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/18/sisters-of-battle-situation-report/

Let's not overdo it - it was 12-13 minutes in the UK, apparently about 30min in North America. Which is ridiculously fast enough as it is! And it would have been even faster if everybody could have accessed the website and it hadn't been slowed down due to the amount of visitors...

It was 2 min in europe from what I remember ?

**Mr Morden**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

They sold out within 1 min of going on sale in the uk (I was lucky to get one) which was frustrating to many - GW appologised for massively underestimated demand in latest Warhammer Community post

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/18/sisters-of-battle-situation-report/

Let's not overdo it - it was 12-13 minutes in the UK, apparently about 30min in North America. Which is ridiculously fast enough as it is! And it would have been even faster if everybody could have accessed the website and it hadn't been slowed down due to the amount of visitors...

I was logged in and cashed out as soon as it appeared - about 9.59 on my computer - as soon as processed - about a minute I went back to have a browse on the site and the GW site had crashed - by the time it came bakc it was sold out.

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Dumb Smart Guy wrote:
zend wrote:
Oh nooo, a Blood Angels character is getting updated for the first time in like 20 years! It’s so unfair to the Xenos players!

Did you guys really want a new Red Terror or Lictor model that badly or something? They’re the only Nid characters that haven’t been updated, and Red Terror has absolutely no history with the Blood Angels.

lol imagine being a marine player and acting this aggrieved in 2019

I know right - when a sub faction of a sub faction has more character models than most complete Factions, has had their own super special upgrade kits and flow of models from FW and still feels hard done by - sheesh entitled much

**Coenus Scaldingus**

WhiteDog wrote:
Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

Spoiler:

Mr Morden wrote:
xttz wrote:
Togusa wrote:

Sisters Debacle? What happened?

GW forgot to produce an infinite amount of stock for a limited edition product, and it sold out quickly.

They sold out within 1 min of going on sale in the uk (I was lucky to get one) which was frustrating to many - GW appologised for massively underestimated demand in latest Warhammer Community post

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/18/sisters-of-battle-situation-report/

Let's not overdo it - it was 12-13 minutes in the UK, apparently about 30min in North America. Which is ridiculously fast enough as it is! And it would have been even faster if everybody could have accessed the website and it hadn't been slowed down due to the amount of visitors...

It was 2 min in europe from what I remember ?

Was refreshing the page every minute - saw pre-orders up at 9:59 (GMT), got a copy, then figured I'd continue F5-ing for a few minutes to see if it would sell out that quickly. It went out of stock between 10:11 and 10:12.
Had continuous access throughout, even when switching between the Finnish and UK site and back (aside from the fact that it was a bit slow). Though it does seem that no or few people were able to get to the website at all shortly after 10, so in that sense only those arriving in the very first minutes were able to grab a box.

Aaanyway. Something about Psychic Awakenings?