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ugh, came back to read about DA goodies and all there is some boring nonsense about TS.

 bullyboy wrote:
ugh, came back to read about DA goodies and all there is some boring nonsense about TS.

The generalities of what DA are getting are entirely preeditable to the point that until the rumors speak of hard numbers there's not much to say

 bullyboy wrote:
ugh, came back to read about DA goodies and all there is some boring nonsense about TS.

Don't worry - DA is getting the bulk of the release - as always.

Does anyone think that Grey Kinghts are getting anything - as its a Marines only PA boost by the looks of it.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
ugh, came back to read about DA goodies and all there is some boring nonsense about TS.

Don't worry - DA is getting the bulk of the release - as always.

Does anyone think that Grey Kinghts are getting anything - as its a Marines only PA boost by the looks of it.

Honestly I’m expecting minimal effort regarding GKs in PA. Wouldn’t be surprised if we got a nerf or two. Would happily be proved wrong though.

 bullyboy wrote:
ugh, came back to read about DA goodies and all there is some boring nonsense about TS.

Yeah guys. Stay on topic. PA4 is supposed to be about DA, not TS.

Well ok to steer things back on what we 'have' as rumors:

1. Independent Characters podcast says that they are super excited for the 'character' they will have from Ritual of the Damned, particularly for Thousand Sons.

2. A guy on bolterandchainsword says he was told there is a Dark Angels primaris sort of captain coming, who is apparently good at killing characters.

I've been creeping hard for any leaks and these two things are the only things with any substance I've found. It's quite dark out there.

 bullyboy wrote:
ugh, came back to read about DA goodies and all there is some boring nonsense about TS.

Yeah I feel you, in a release featuring grey knights no one should be allowed to complain more than us and yet I have to read pages of rubric nonsense, ugh. Time to bring Karol and Fezzik in here and take back our rightful place!

GK may be marines but they are treated like a Xeno faction by GW.

You know I got super excited when the first PA book came with new Banshees and Incubi.

I should of expected it would be all downhill from there.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
GK may be marines but they are treated like a Xeno faction by GW.

don't be absurd!
xenos factions generally get better rules treatment

I 'member when they were the new hotness and kind of OP. In 5th.

BrianDavion wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
GK may be marines but they are treated like a Xeno faction by GW.

don't be absurd!
xenos factions generally get better rules treatment

Huge rules splash on release of the whole army, then each edition their rules get worse and blander?

Tracks. Gk are xenos confirmed.

I can't think of a better time to make GK a good army. GW seize the moment!

Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

boy, you really are setting yourself up for disappointment!! Anything beyond a Primaris DA character will be a bonus IMHO.

Eh, I’m a difficult man to disappoint

It feels like GW will release a new box, like PA 1, and not just a unique mini am I wrong ?

WhiteDog wrote:
It feels like GW will release a new box, like PA 1, and not just a unique mini am I wrong ?

Straight off the bat in January?

Seems unlikely, IMO.

Probably gonna be Primaris-Ezekiel or Asmodai or something along those lines, and then the rest of the Sisters release, roughly mirroring the release window GSC had in January/February 2019.

Shadowspear came out in March? So it'd be more likely we see a big new box around then, I think.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

The next 3 PA books will only have one (1) new Characters released with them, as per this already discussed article :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/30/reveals-from-the-warhammer-40000-open-daygw-homepage-post-1/

"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion to lead the charge in this terrible age. These legendary heroes will include reborn, reimagined and brand-new characters, but we can’t reveal any more details at the moment."

:(

Personally I think GW are on cruise control until the SoB launch in early Feb, after that we have that rumour engine that looks suspiciously like an updated Ghaz backpack which could easily coincide with Saga of the Beast in March.

There really might end up being a boxset here with PA4 but other than a wild guess (which might still end up correct of course) I have no idea how people arrived on that conclusion

PiñaColada wrote:
Personally I think GW are on cruise control until the SoB launch in early Feb, after that we have that rumour engine that looks suspiciously like an updated Ghaz backpack which could easily coincide with Saga of the Beast in March.

There really might end up being a boxset here with PA4 but other than a wild guess (which might still end up correct of course) I have no idea how people arrived on that conclusion

It's because of this :

I guess I thought they would not make so much hype just for one simple character.

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

The next 3 PA books will only have one (1) new Characters released with them, as per this already discussed article :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/30/reveals-from-the-warhammer-40000-open-daygw-homepage-post-1/

"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion to lead the charge in this terrible age. These legendary heroes will include reborn, reimagined and brand-new characters, but we can’t reveal any more details at the moment."

:(

Each book will be accompanied by 1 character, that doesn't preclude further kits as well.

I'd honestly be surprised if the DA got more than a special character and rules for Primaris in bone and black. But that parcel does look like it has the DA sword icon on it, and the tree is very much like a SM tactical badge.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

What if GW turn the expectation on its head and reveal Luthor and his fallen?

WhiteDog wrote:

It's because of this :

Spoiler:

I guess I thought they would not make so much hype just for one simple character.

Eh, it's one picture of a Christmas present, days before Christmas. The only thing I'd take from that is that the new character will be DA since the sword on the box is their logo sans wings. As far as GW hype goes, this is pretty mild and I'd temper expectations way down.

Dudeface wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

The next 3 PA books will only have one (1) new Characters released with them, as per this already discussed article :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/30/reveals-from-the-warhammer-40000-open-daygw-homepage-post-1/

"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion to lead the charge in this terrible age. These legendary heroes will include reborn, reimagined and brand-new characters, but we can’t reveal any more details at the moment."

:(

Each book will be accompanied by 1 character, that doesn't preclude further kits as well.

Despite the complete lack of evidence to suggest there will remotely be more than that.

WhiteDog wrote:

I guess I thought they would not make so much hype just for one simple character.

Well, if they reveal new stuff, it probably wont be PA-related. Lol.

I am pretty sure there will be a box set or another for 40k (and for AoS) again in the new year. And loads of other stuff they could reveal. New Blood Bowl teams? A new Warcry box. More AT stuff. More 40K stuff parallel / alongside Psychic Awakening in the early summer. ETc.., etc.., etc.

WhiteDog wrote:

PiñaColada wrote:
Personally I think GW are on cruise control until the SoB launch in early Feb, after that we have that rumour engine that looks suspiciously like an updated Ghaz backpack which could easily coincide with Saga of the Beast in March.

There really might end up being a boxset here with PA4 but other than a wild guess (which might still end up correct of course) I have no idea how people arrived on that conclusion

It's because of this : <snip>
I guess I thought they would not make so much hype just for one simple character.

They do have other product lines.

Last year Gloomspite transitioned right into the Genestealer release.
This year, Sisters are already queued up for late January pre-order (and we haven't seen retributors, zephyrim or non-monopose arcos/repentia), there are chaos/warcry models waiting (plus another warcry terrain box?), PA3 and the DA captain, and as-yet-unseen lurking Hysh/Giants releases for AoS.
Any or all of those could be used for 'festive reveals.'

Keep in mind last year's reveal was the Gloomspite 'Bad Moon' video and the Vostryoan made to order, so expectations don't need to be sky-high. While the video was great, it didn't actually show off models.

Voss wrote:

WhiteDog wrote:

PiñaColada wrote:
Personally I think GW are on cruise control until the SoB launch in early Feb, after that we have that rumour engine that looks suspiciously like an updated Ghaz backpack which could easily coincide with Saga of the Beast in March.

There really might end up being a boxset here with PA4 but other than a wild guess (which might still end up correct of course) I have no idea how people arrived on that conclusion

It's because of this : <snip>
I guess I thought they would not make so much hype just for one simple character.

They do have other product lines.

Last year Gloomspite transitioned right into the Genestealer release.
This year, Sisters are already queued up for late January pre-order (and we haven't seen retributors, zephyrim or non-monopose arcos/repentia), there are chaos/warcry models waiting (plus another warcry terrain box?), PA3 and the DA captain, and as-yet-unseen lurking Hysh/Giants releases for AoS.
Any or all of those could be used for 'festive reveals.'

Keep in mind last year's reveal was the Gloomspite 'Bad Moon' video and the Vostryoan made to order, so expectations don't need to be sky-high. While the video was great, it didn't actually show off models.

They’ve said they’re doing a full reveal of PA4 on Christmas Day.

So today’s Warhammer Community article is “we have a good article that has the information you want three days from now”. Yea we know that already. Between the year in review and this we got a hole load of junk the past couple of days. I want GW to hurry up and just break my TS heart already.

 Imateria wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 HorticulusDK wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Really kinda expecting The Lion. And maybe Primaris Grey Knights.

The next 3 PA books will only have one (1) new Characters released with them, as per this already discussed article :

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/30/reveals-from-the-warhammer-40000-open-daygw-homepage-post-1/

"Each book will be accompanied by an epic champion to lead the charge in this terrible age. These legendary heroes will include reborn, reimagined and brand-new characters, but we can’t reveal any more details at the moment."

:(

Each book will be accompanied by 1 character, that doesn't preclude further kits as well.

Despite the complete lack of evidence to suggest there will remotely be more than that.

Phoenix rising came with 2 characters and 2 units?