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2019/12/25 18:15:14
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Darsath wrote: There's a growing apathy in the fanbase. I've been noticing it growing over the last couple months, and it seems to be in more places and in groups I wouldn't expect it. I suspect it's only because the game is kind of in a rut right now, and we'll be out of it soon enough, but a couple years ago a release like this would probably have been more forgiving.
The apathy definitely exists. I've also noticed it. Not convinced we'll be out of it soon though.
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2019/12/25 18:37:52
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
skullking wrote: Nice to see DA, GK, & TS getting updates in the new book. Looking forward to DG getting something new as well, especially if they’re faced off against salamanders. Or (dare I dream!?!?) GSC!
I’m really hoping a new primarch will appear at some point as a result of PA. Don’t care if they’re loyalist or chaos, I just want more of them in proper 40k (that’s not a slant on HH). I think they’re a fun addition to the game & background, and their models are always (of the 3 we have...) fun and over the top.
I think Fulgrim is a very likely possibility. There's been lots of hints about him scattered around in PA, and they fit the usual MO for how GW teases something big. I'll be very very genuinely surprised if he doesn't have a 40k-version model by this time next year.
If he comes out at the end of Psychic Awakening, they could even do some clever "full circle" wordplay by calling the final book "Phoenix Returning" or something.
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***Bring back Battlefleet Gothic***
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2019/12/25 19:04:08
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Darsath wrote: There's a growing apathy in the fanbase. I've been noticing it growing over the last couple months, and it seems to be in more places and in groups I wouldn't expect it. I suspect it's only because the game is kind of in a rut right now, and we'll be out of it soon enough, but a couple years ago a release like this would probably have been more forgiving.
The apathy definitely exists. I've also noticed it. Not convinced we'll be out of it soon though.
Since you're one of the main sources of it on this forum that doesn't surprise me.
2019/12/25 19:09:34
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
2019/12/25 19:11:43
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Darsath wrote: There's a growing apathy in the fanbase. I've been noticing it growing over the last couple months, and it seems to be in more places and in groups I wouldn't expect it. I suspect it's only because the game is kind of in a rut right now, and we'll be out of it soon enough, but a couple years ago a release like this would probably have been more forgiving.
The apathy definitely exists. I've also noticed it. Not convinced we'll be out of it soon though.
Since you're one of the main sources of it on this forum that doesn't surprise me.
This forum is not representative of the hobby as a whole. The apathy exists in far more places and is far more widespread than many here seem to believe.
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
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2019/12/25 19:27:33
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
Isn't that just a rephrased version of "I don't like Space Marines, so I don't buy them"?
If anything is tragic here, it's your incessant gatekeeping about who is allowed to have an opinion on things. Shouldn't you be taking a page out of your own book and stop complaining until Necrons have gotten as many releases as Orks this edition?
I think you'd struggle to find a Space Marine player who's enthusiastic about Primaris Lieutenant relase #48 this edition. We don't want them any more than you guys do. You'd be indignant as all gak if I told you that you should be enthusiastic about more of the same, yet you assume that every Space Marine player unthinkingly, unflinchingly lines up to enthusiastically buy whatever GW releases. Why?
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
2019/12/25 19:39:45
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
Looking at the blurb for the next book. Thousand Sons are getting new stuff for the NINE Cults of the Legion? Weren't there five? Or is Heresy-era content "legends" that can be freely retconned without consequence now?
It's been Nine Cults for quite awhile now. Nine is the sacred number of Tzeetch, much like Seven is sacred to Nurgle. Presumably, the legion was reorganized once they settled on Planet of Sorcerors. They would've had to do so anyway, what with 90% of them being soulless automata now, and Ahriman getting banished with his buddies.
***Bring back Battlefleet Gothic***
Nurgle may own my soul, but Slaanesh has my heart <3
2019/12/25 19:43:22
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
I actually really like the model, my only little gripe is that the wings look bolted on. If you look at other DA helmets with wings they look like they are part of the helmet, this looks like someone gave a techmarine a set of wings to attach to a helmet, and his only tool was a hot glue gun. I suppose they are going to spin us the yarn these were the wings from his helmet from before he was primaris, and that he insisted they be attached to his new helmet. But that is a very minor nit to pick, especially since you can change the helmet out for the boltgun.
Notice it doesn't say DA and GK get tactical doctrines, and while it says the grey knights get something else entirely, which hints that the DA will get something different as well. The focus on ravenwing and deathwing is welcome, and I can't wait to see what is in the previews. Ravenwing is already close to being good, so I don't think it will take much too push them into being useful. Deathwing on the other hand, need a lot of work. I don't think terminators will ever be general purpose, but if GW can give them a valid competitive use case, I'd be thrilled.
For instance if deathwing can use ravenwing as a springboard for shorter charges from deep strike, I'd be sold. It's fluffy and it addresses a big issue with terminators in a way that makes ravenwing better as well. Imagine a land speeder zooming past enemy screens and allowing a squad of deathwing knights to make a six inch charge.
Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon.
2019/12/25 19:45:53
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
Either/Or wrote: Dark angel master is incredibly “meh,” like couldn’t be more ”meh” if that was there goal. Not bad-perfectly nice model. Just BORING.
Note: I like marines and DA in particular, this is not a complaint about more marine models.
Yeah, he should have been grimdark slam dunking (Michael Jordan style!) an ork head into an open carnifex mouth trophy net simulateously balance spinning a power sword by its hilt on the other hand while trailing a plume of megaroll toilet paper length purity seals to his base. I think that would better capture the stoic warrior monk asthetic of the Dark Angels.
2019/12/25 19:57:35
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
Isn't that just a rephrased version of "I don't like Space Marines, so I don't buy them"?
If anything is tragic here, it's your incessant gatekeeping about who is allowed to have an opinion on things. Shouldn't you be taking a page out of your own book and stop complaining until Necrons have gotten as many releases as Orks this edition?
I think you'd struggle to find a Space Marine player who's enthusiastic about Primaris Lieutenant relase #48 this edition. We don't want them any more than you guys do. You'd be indignant as all gak if I told you that you should be enthusiastic about more of the same, yet you assume that every Space Marine player unthinkingly, unflinchingly lines up to enthusiastically buy whatever GW releases. Why?
No. I don't particularly dislike SM. I have neither the budget or time to commit to them though. Not that I have to justify why I don't purchase a model to you.
The key difference between Space Marine players and everyone else is that you actually HAVE releases. All the time. Loads of them. And still you complain because this particular model release, despite having a tabard, is not the correct colour and does not have the correct pauldron to suit you. My heart bleeds. Really. It must be hard. Truly the marine player is saintly in their patience.
Meanwhile, though I play a specific 'chapter' of Orks, I'm told that I should be happy for the release of a unit completely unrelated (say - Thraka) to my particular 'chapter'. The double standards at play are unbelievable. Ironically, I'd love a new Thraka model because I'd convert the hell out of it to suit my chapter, which is maybe what you should do with this, if you want new marines in tabards so bad.
For the record I've always maintained that all factions should have parity of model releases. Necrons absolutely should have as many releases as Orks and everyone else, no matter the faction.
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2019/12/25 20:02:13
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
Either/Or wrote: Dark angel master is incredibly “meh,” like couldn’t be more ”meh” if that was there goal. Not bad-perfectly nice model. Just BORING.
Note: I like marines and DA in particular, this is not a complaint about more marine models.
Yeah, he should have been grimdark slam dunking (Michael Jordan style!) an ork head into an open carnifex mouth trophy net simulateously balance spinning a power sword by its hilt on the other hand while trailing a plume of megaroll toilet paper length purity seals to his base. I think that would better capture the stoic warrior monk asthetic of the Dark Angels.
You're forgetting being surrounded swirly smoke coming from the cencers!
Either/Or wrote: Dark angel master is incredibly “meh,” like couldn’t be more ”meh” if that was there goal. Not bad-perfectly nice model. Just BORING.
Note: I like marines and DA in particular, this is not a complaint about more marine models.
Yeah, he should have been grimdark slam dunking (Michael Jordan style!) an ork head into an open carnifex mouth trophy net simulateously balance spinning a power sword by its hilt on the other hand while trailing a plume of megaroll toilet paper length purity seals to his base. I think that would better capture the stoic warrior monk asthetic of the Dark Angels.
You're forgetting being surrounded swirly smoke coming from the cencers!
The original DA characters (Azrael, Ezekiel, Asmodai) all fit in the DA style whilst being different from each other and the other marine character models at the time. Doesn’t need to be over the top to be interesting or different. This model would be fine in the context of new codex+couple new releases, but as the token release for the foreseeable future it’s blah. Compare this to mephiston (other than his stupid collar).
2019/12/25 20:15:17
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
Its a shame they went all out on Phoenix Rising with the massive Blood of the Phoenix boxset(which was beyond most players budgets), but then just released a single model on each of the following episodes.
The new Marine and chaos Sorcerer models are really good, but I really don't see why they didn't include a plastic Lictor or Deathleaper for Blood Of Baal.
Still, I'm hopeful for two releases; a new Commander Shadowsun and Ghazghkull Thraka.
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/12/25 20:23:16
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
I feel like with these two, very clearly (IMO) Ork rumour engines that Orks are dang near guaranteed to get something with or around Saga of the Beast. Honestly, considering SoB are getting their full release soon, I'm not sure if there's much hope for PA5 to bring anything substantial.
Do we even know who the Tau are fighting there? Is it DG or maybe Admech and/or guard? Because admech has some things in the pipeline that we know of so if they're in PA5 then Tau is definitely getting diddly squat
2019/12/25 20:43:38
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
Isn't that just a rephrased version of "I don't like Space Marines, so I don't buy them"?
If anything is tragic here, it's your incessant gatekeeping about who is allowed to have an opinion on things. Shouldn't you be taking a page out of your own book and stop complaining until Necrons have gotten as many releases as Orks this edition?
I think you'd struggle to find a Space Marine player who's enthusiastic about Primaris Lieutenant relase #48 this edition. We don't want them any more than you guys do. You'd be indignant as all gak if I told you that you should be enthusiastic about more of the same, yet you assume that every Space Marine player unthinkingly, unflinchingly lines up to enthusiastically buy whatever GW releases. Why?
No. I don't particularly dislike SM. I have neither the budget or time to commit to them though. Not that I have to justify why I don't purchase a model to you.
The key difference between Space Marine players and everyone else is that you actually HAVE releases. All the time. Loads of them. And still you complain because this particular model release, despite having a tabard, is not the correct colour and does not have the correct pauldron to suit you. My heart bleeds. Really. It must be hard. Truly the marine player is saintly in their patience.
Meanwhile, though I play a specific 'chapter' of Orks, I'm told that I should be happy for the release of a unit completely unrelated (say - Thraka) to my particular 'chapter'. The double standards at play are unbelievable. Ironically, I'd love a new Thraka model because I'd convert the hell out of it to suit my chapter, which is maybe what you should do with this, if you want new marines in tabards so bad.
Am I telling you that though? No? I'm fairly certain I've consistently been on record saying I want other factions getting more cool things too.
If it's OK for you to want your particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things (which I would 100% support and get behind), why then is it not OK for me to want my particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things? What happened to double standards being bad?
For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back.
2019/12/25 06:01:03
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
Isn't that just a rephrased version of "I don't like Space Marines, so I don't buy them"?
If anything is tragic here, it's your incessant gatekeeping about who is allowed to have an opinion on things. Shouldn't you be taking a page out of your own book and stop complaining until Necrons have gotten as many releases as Orks this edition?
I think you'd struggle to find a Space Marine player who's enthusiastic about Primaris Lieutenant relase #48 this edition. We don't want them any more than you guys do. You'd be indignant as all gak if I told you that you should be enthusiastic about more of the same, yet you assume that every Space Marine player unthinkingly, unflinchingly lines up to enthusiastically buy whatever GW releases. Why?
No. I don't particularly dislike SM. I have neither the budget or time to commit to them though. Not that I have to justify why I don't purchase a model to you.
The key difference between Space Marine players and everyone else is that you actually HAVE releases. All the time. Loads of them. And still you complain because this particular model release, despite having a tabard, is not the correct colour and does not have the correct pauldron to suit you. My heart bleeds. Really. It must be hard. Truly the marine player is saintly in their patience.
Meanwhile, though I play a specific 'chapter' of Orks, I'm told that I should be happy for the release of a unit completely unrelated (say - Thraka) to my particular 'chapter'. The double standards at play are unbelievable. Ironically, I'd love a new Thraka model because I'd convert the hell out of it to suit my chapter, which is maybe what you should do with this, if you want new marines in tabards so bad.
Am I telling you that though? No? I'm fairly certain I've consistently been on record saying I want other factions getting more cool things too.
If it's OK for you to want your particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things (which I would 100% support and get behind), why then is it not OK for me to want my particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things? What happened to double standards being bad?
envy is a terriable thing.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
2019/12/25 20:46:30
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
Isn't that just a rephrased version of "I don't like Space Marines, so I don't buy them"?
If anything is tragic here, it's your incessant gatekeeping about who is allowed to have an opinion on things. Shouldn't you be taking a page out of your own book and stop complaining until Necrons have gotten as many releases as Orks this edition?
I think you'd struggle to find a Space Marine player who's enthusiastic about Primaris Lieutenant relase #48 this edition. We don't want them any more than you guys do. You'd be indignant as all gak if I told you that you should be enthusiastic about more of the same, yet you assume that every Space Marine player unthinkingly, unflinchingly lines up to enthusiastically buy whatever GW releases. Why?
No. I don't particularly dislike SM. I have neither the budget or time to commit to them though. Not that I have to justify why I don't purchase a model to you.
The key difference between Space Marine players and everyone else is that you actually HAVE releases. All the time. Loads of them. And still you complain because this particular model release, despite having a tabard, is not the correct colour and does not have the correct pauldron to suit you. My heart bleeds. Really. It must be hard. Truly the marine player is saintly in their patience.
Meanwhile, though I play a specific 'chapter' of Orks, I'm told that I should be happy for the release of a unit completely unrelated (say - Thraka) to my particular 'chapter'. The double standards at play are unbelievable. Ironically, I'd love a new Thraka model because I'd convert the hell out of it to suit my chapter, which is maybe what you should do with this, if you want new marines in tabards so bad.
Am I telling you that though? No? I'm fairly certain I've consistently been on record saying I want other factions getting more cool things too.
If it's OK for you to want your particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things (which I would 100% support and get behind), why then is it not OK for me to want my particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things? What happened to double standards being bad?
Orks aren't a Sub-faction, so the comparison you made at the end is moot.
0014/01/25 20:46:40
Subject: Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
SamusDrake wrote: To not have a new Tau model for an episode called "The Greater Good" would be quite disappointing.
Apparently 1d4Chan mentions the Death Guard as the likely opposition faction.
I'm really curious as to what they do with Tau. They're hardly weak as they stand, but they're very mono-build, and really lack viable options. I'm curious how they implement new rules without breaking the codex.
2019/12/25 20:55:22
Subject: Re:Psychic Awakening N&R - New trailer page 106
AlmightyWalrus wrote: Well, at least SOMEONE is getting a Primaries Marine with a tabard...
Yea it must be hard when your 'only' releases are a ton of new models that make any other factions' releases pale in comparison. I don't know how you cope.
Why don't you buy the new releases?
If the answer is "because I don't like them" then congratulations, you've finally understood.
They're not for my faction, that's why I don't buy them.
The latest releases for 40k have been for your faction so I find your complaint about this equal parts hilarious and tragic.
Isn't that just a rephrased version of "I don't like Space Marines, so I don't buy them"?
If anything is tragic here, it's your incessant gatekeeping about who is allowed to have an opinion on things. Shouldn't you be taking a page out of your own book and stop complaining until Necrons have gotten as many releases as Orks this edition?
I think you'd struggle to find a Space Marine player who's enthusiastic about Primaris Lieutenant relase #48 this edition. We don't want them any more than you guys do. You'd be indignant as all gak if I told you that you should be enthusiastic about more of the same, yet you assume that every Space Marine player unthinkingly, unflinchingly lines up to enthusiastically buy whatever GW releases. Why?
No. I don't particularly dislike SM. I have neither the budget or time to commit to them though. Not that I have to justify why I don't purchase a model to you.
The key difference between Space Marine players and everyone else is that you actually HAVE releases. All the time. Loads of them. And still you complain because this particular model release, despite having a tabard, is not the correct colour and does not have the correct pauldron to suit you. My heart bleeds. Really. It must be hard. Truly the marine player is saintly in their patience.
Meanwhile, though I play a specific 'chapter' of Orks, I'm told that I should be happy for the release of a unit completely unrelated (say - Thraka) to my particular 'chapter'. The double standards at play are unbelievable. Ironically, I'd love a new Thraka model because I'd convert the hell out of it to suit my chapter, which is maybe what you should do with this, if you want new marines in tabards so bad.
Am I telling you that though? No? I'm fairly certain I've consistently been on record saying I want other factions getting more cool things too.
If it's OK for you to want your particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things (which I would 100% support and get behind), why then is it not OK for me to want my particular sub-faction to get dedicated, cool things? What happened to double standards being bad?
envy is a terriable thing.
What am I envious of again? His jealousy at DA getting an extra character release while his chapter didn't get one? Righto. Terriable logic.
Walrus - The complaining of ANY marine player (excluding GK because they can't use Primaris) is not justified given their glut of releases. I'm not sorry BT didn't get a new character model, they've had enough other releases so I have no sympathy.
