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well just so long as it doesn't mean another 6 month long marine release wave.

BrianDavion wrote:
well just so long as it doesn't mean another 6 month long marine release wave.

That seems likely - we have to have model/s for Space Wolves and maybe Deathwatch, plus any other Chapters they decide need a supplement.

We know we are getting a Flyer for Ad Mech - with the possible new Marine skimmer maybe they are doing an air based box set like the coming AOS one?

Oh man just what 40k needed rn more space marines. I thought for SURE the fact that we got a frigging ork boot in the recent rumor mill might mean we could be getting something, anything for anybody else...but no. Of course it's more marines. because we don't have a flyer with a PRIMARIS marine in the cockpit yet, we just have twelve marine flyers with REGULAR marines modeled in the cockpit! The tiny helmet bit that nobody ever sees is all wrong, and they don't even have any stubbers!

 Mr Morden wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
well just so long as it doesn't mean another 6 month long marine release wave.

That seems likely - we have to have model/s for Space Wolves and maybe Deathwatch, plus any other Chapters they decide need a supplement.

We know we are getting a Flyer for Ad Mech - with the possible new Marine skimmer maybe they are doing an air based box set like the coming AOS one?

that strikes me as the most likely. Maybe a death from the skies expansion set? a flier IS one of the things Marine players have been saying they'd like to see for Primaris. and a number of armies out there would benifit from having a flier added. Off the top of my head...

Custodes
Sisters of Battle
Admech (we know it's coming)
Gene Stealer cults (I'd LOOOOVE to see them given some sort of armed civilian flier model)
Harliquins (I think)
Chaos Marines in general (yes they have the dragon but a transport's kinda an obvious hole)


so that's about a half dozen armies that could be a good months of release based around some sort of special boxed set event if GW was of a mind

Well we knew there was at least one more Primaris release with gravis armor. Now we know there is at least two more lmao.

the_scotsman wrote:
Oh man just what 40k needed rn more space marines.

I said the exact same thing.

 Imateria wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:
Oh man just what 40k needed rn more space marines.

I said the exact same thing.

Hey, if we are lucky it will be paired with some non-space marine opponent for the new shinny to beat on.

Space Marine haters may as well buckle up and face the inevitable.

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

I think it is safe to say that when all this is released, the old marine line is finished. We knew it was coming (despite detractors), but I hoped it was just a few more years. I can still keep playing my oldies in narrative for sure, but they mostly have been outclassed by the new models.
Time to get as much play out of my Ravenwing and Deathwing this year as I can.

Eyes are already welling up, tears ready to flow. Please God let this leak be true.

New bikes? What heresy is this?

GW is clearly invaded by White Scar fan boys if that is true and is need of an liberation.

JSG wrote:
Eyes are already welling up, tears ready to flow. Please God let this leak be true.

If primaris can get new bikers then there is still hope that chaos will get the same. Or at least I can put new chaos marines in biggerized primaris bikes.

 bullyboy wrote:
Space Marine haters may as well buckle up and face the inevitable.

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

I think it is safe to say that when all this is released, the old marine line is finished. We knew it was coming (despite detractors), but I hoped it was just a few more years. I can still keep playing my oldies in narrative for sure, but they mostly have been outclassed by the new models.
Time to get as much play out of my Ravenwing and Deathwing this year as I can.

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Hopefully you have some fluffy Thousand Sons players in your area.. I always have REALLY good games against Deathwing/Ravenwing lists.. I run Rubrics and Sorcerers, not Magnus + Tzaangors and the like.

 BrotherGecko wrote:

JSG wrote:
Eyes are already welling up, tears ready to flow. Please God let this leak be true.

If primaris can get new bikers then there is still hope that chaos will get the same. Or at least I can put new chaos marines in biggerized primaris bikes.

Here's hoping . Personally I'm looking forward to a plastic Ghaz, though I wouldn't say no to those bikes if real.

Honestly, I was waiting for the releases to come that would actually directly REPLACE marine stuff. We've had the Dreadnought, we've had...I guess tactical marines? no options, but they kinda do the same job. Aggressors are terminator-esque, but for some reason they looked at those chonky boys and thought "hmmm, no, let's not give them the 2+ armor save that would make them proper termie replacements"

Inceptors are definitely not assault marines. Reivers are sort of scouts, but they again flattened them out and crammed them into the 3+ armor slot. We've yet to see any really assault-focused primaris unit outside of one of the two options from the box in Reivers.

We still have no Primaris units with many of the most iconic weapons that space marines have had. no primaris melta, no primaris Grav, no primaris lascannons, no primaris Chainswords, no primaris storm shields, no primaris thunder hammers (Yes, I know that there's a random bit on some upgrade sprue somewhere, I mean a unit actually equipped with those things). No replacement for Vindicators, assault terminators, land speeders bikers Devastators Assault Marines Predators

If there's gonna be a primaris release...again, I'd much rather see it be a release that brings us closer to the day when a space marine player can just take his army and say "OK, now all these dudes count as the Primaris equivalent".

Part of the reason I'm so vocally annoyed by these endless primaris marine releases is because I actually give a gak about a bunch of marine players who have been getting endlessly shafted by Primaris bullcrap since the start of the edition, the entire structural core of their armies getting hosed so GW can try to force them into buying primaris stuff instead. We had two space marine players with drop pod armies just straight up quit at the start of the edition.

 bullyboy wrote:

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

A tank and a speeder sure. But are you sure the bikes are new? It is so pixelated that they could just be the old ones. Also, the 'gravis' is kinda iffy as well.

JSG wrote:
Eyes are already welling up, tears ready to flow. Please God let this leak be true.

Probably worth noting that this is a pre-emptive message for the people who are vocal about the marine support. Expect it, don't whine about it and let it pass.

If we're lucky this could be classic marines being squatted, plus if this is real we have no context for what/where/when this release is for.


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 Crimson wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

A tank and a speeder sure. But are you sure the bikes are new? It is so pixelated that they could just be the old ones. Also, the 'gravis' is kinda iffy as well.

Those bikes are huge and more like a chopper compared to the current ones imo.

BrianDavion wrote:

but yeah WHC's resp[onse time being what it is I expect if it's legit we'll know within 24 hours

Wonder if they'll have that response time during the holiday season. Might be the first we see of this is the New Year Open Day this weekend.

 Crimson wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

A tank and a speeder sure. But are you sure the bikes are new? It is so pixelated that they could just be the old ones. Also, the 'gravis' is kinda iffy as well.

To me the bikes look longer, with two passengers each. I guess making every bike an attack bike would make the new stuff different enough.

 xttz wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

but yeah WHC's resp[onse time being what it is I expect if it's legit we'll know within 24 hours

Wonder if they'll have that response time during the holiday season. Might be the first we see of this is the New Year Open Day this weekend.

 Crimson wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

A tank and a speeder sure. But are you sure the bikes are new? It is so pixelated that they could just be the old ones. Also, the 'gravis' is kinda iffy as well.

To me the bikes look longer, with two passengers each. I guess making every bike an attack bike would make the new stuff different enough.

Oh man I hope so, I am totally writing a custom ruleset for a game of hyper-chicken between my Harlequin bikes and numarine bikes if that's true.

 Crimson wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

In that picture, there are new bikes, a new speeder, a new Gravis model in top left corner, a new tank (maybe 2 if one to right is different).

A tank and a speeder sure. But are you sure the bikes are new? It is so pixelated that they could just be the old ones. Also, the 'gravis' is kinda iffy as well.

Definitely new bikers. Those bases are the large ovals. Space Marines bikes are on the 75mm oval, those in the picture are definitely 90mm ovals.

 BrotherGecko wrote:


Definitely new bikers. Those bases are the large ovals. Space Marines bikes are on the 75mm oval, those in the picture are definitely 90mm ovals.

That's good news then. A bit disappointed that they don't seem to be jetbikes though.

So, do we reckon Community post later today

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, do we reckon Community post later today

I really hope so!

BrianDavion wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
well just so long as it doesn't mean another 6 month long marine release wave.

That seems likely - we have to have model/s for Space Wolves and maybe Deathwatch, plus any other Chapters they decide need a supplement.

We know we are getting a Flyer for Ad Mech - with the possible new Marine skimmer maybe they are doing an air based box set like the coming AOS one?

that strikes me as the most likely. Maybe a death from the skies expansion set? a flier IS one of the things Marine players have been saying they'd like to see for Primaris. and a number of armies out there would benifit from having a flier added. Off the top of my head...

Custodes
Sisters of Battle
Admech (we know it's coming)
Gene Stealer cults (I'd LOOOOVE to see them given some sort of armed civilian flier model)
Harliquins (I think)
Chaos Marines in general (yes they have the dragon but a transport's kinda an obvious hole)

so that's about a half dozen armies that could be a good months of release based around some sort of special boxed set event if GW was of a mind

Custodes have Forge World flyers IIRC - making them more official or plastic would be welcomed - especially when you look at GW designed flyers - exception the new Ad Mech one!
Sisters - a converted blinged Valykryire would be nice - just cos the model is cool
Cults - yep upgunner Arcus lifters and the cool shuttle whose name I forget
Harlequins - they should have one agreed - just for aeriel displays
CSMarines - well still waiting fot the drop pod but yep they should have them.

but others think its just a wave after wave of Primaris Marines - again.

Eh, kinda mixed about this reveal. It fills a role missing in the all-primaris line up, but the fatigue of Space Marine launches is already reaching a boiling point among groups. If they're smart about it, this'll be the next wave launched in the summer, but I get the feeling it's going to be in the vanilla Space Marine Psychic Awakening supplement. Either way though, it gives even more ammunition for those who desire varied releases.

Darsath wrote:
Eh, kinda mixed about this reveal. It fills a role missing in the all-primaris line up, but the fatigue of Space Marine launches is already reaching a boiling point among groups. If they're smart about it, this'll be the next wave launched in the summer, but I get the feeling it's going to be in the vanilla Space Marine Psychic Awakening supplement. Either way though, it gives even more ammunition for those who desire varied releases.

Faith and fury was the vanilla supplement, my guess is these will come with the revised/next edition.

Darsath wrote:
Eh, kinda mixed about this reveal. It fills a role missing in the all-primaris line up, but the fatigue of Space Marine launches is already reaching a boiling point among groups. If they're smart about it, this'll be the next wave launched in the summer, but I get the feeling it's going to be in the vanilla Space Marine Psychic Awakening supplement. Either way though, it gives even more ammunition for those who desire varied releases.

If we look at Primaris as just more of the same, yeah I could get the fatigue, but if we're being honest, Primaris is a whole new army/model line. It's like if this website had been around back then, people would be on here constantly complaining about new Tau models coming out within the first couple years of their release.

The writing is on the wall for the old marines. Their time is done.

 djones520 wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Eh, kinda mixed about this reveal. It fills a role missing in the all-primaris line up, but the fatigue of Space Marine launches is already reaching a boiling point among groups. If they're smart about it, this'll be the next wave launched in the summer, but I get the feeling it's going to be in the vanilla Space Marine Psychic Awakening supplement. Either way though, it gives even more ammunition for those who desire varied releases.

If we look at Primaris as just more of the same, yeah I could get the fatigue, but if we're being honest, Primaris is a whole new army/model line. It's like if this website had been around back then, people would be on here constantly complaining about new Tau models coming out within the first couple years of their release.

The writing is on the wall for the old marines. Their time is done.

I remember at the start of 8th edition, Games Workshop were very adamant that the new line was not intended to replace the old models. I find it shocking how willing people are to accept being lied to so brazenly. I'd be furious if it were me.

 djones520 wrote:

Darsath wrote:
Eh, kinda mixed about this reveal. It fills a role missing in the all-primaris line up, but the fatigue of Space Marine launches is already reaching a boiling point among groups. If they're smart about it, this'll be the next wave launched in the summer, but I get the feeling it's going to be in the vanilla Space Marine Psychic Awakening supplement. Either way though, it gives even more ammunition for those who desire varied releases.

If we look at Primaris as just more of the same, yeah I could get the fatigue, but if we're being honest, Primaris is a whole new army/model line. It's like if this website had been around back then, people would be on here constantly complaining about new Tau models coming out within the first couple years of their release.

The writing is on the wall for the old marines. Their time is done.

Yeah, a whole new army line replacing the most up-to-date army line in the entire game. I still chuckle every time someone says "OLD marines" when I look at the troop kits for half the factions I play. If the tactical marine kit is "old" what the feth are Cadians/Guardians/Termagants?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, do we reckon Community post later today

Is there a time of day that GW usually posts them?

Brian888 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
So, do we reckon Community post later today

Is there a time of day that GW usually posts them?

They made 3? posts yesterday starting around 9 AM, all we've got so far today is more PA fluff.