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The shoulder mounted gun is the most interesting part of the model imo

Think we'll see more aggressors with different mounted weapons, remember that hellfury's are still a thing we don't know about

That IF guy makes me yearn for modre Gravis marines. The armour design is cool, but it actually looks better when both hands are not giant fists like on Aggressors. It is such a shame that the stock Gravis Captain has zero options. I was already planning convert one out of Calgar, but now I want to convert one out of Garandon too... But is silly to have two models for same character with exact same gear.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Well apparently I've been doing 40k wrong for the last couple decades since apparently we can get paid for liking the game.

Yeah this was just a big PR stunt and I was given a bunch of money for the post itself.

That said I agree it needs a helmet but that's because I refuse to model helmet-less Marines. Calgar for example looked silly until we saw a helmet for him.

His power fist definitely does the Big O Sudden Impact attack. The Pistons are drawn back and released at the point of impact.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Well apparently I've been doing 40k wrong for the last couple decades since apparently we can get paid for liking the game.

Yeah this was just a big PR stunt and I was given a bunch of money for the post itself.

That said I agree it needs a helmet but that's because I refuse to model helmet-less Marines. Calgar for example looked silly until we saw a helmet for him.

It's entirely possible the models may come with helmets, but failing that the upgrade sprues have at least one helmet.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Well apparently I've been doing 40k wrong for the last couple decades since apparently we can get paid for liking the game.

Yeah this was just a big PR stunt and I was given a bunch of money for the post itself.

That said I agree it needs a helmet but that's because I refuse to model helmet-less Marines. Calgar for example looked silly until we saw a helmet for him.

It's entirely possible the models may come with helmets, but failing that the upgrade sprues have at least one helmet.

It's why I just make all my HQs myself. I bought quite a few of the Legion Upgrade helmets from FW, so I'm not lacking in variety. I know at least for the Shrike stand-in, I just need to add a Pistol to the base I don't forget he has a range option now. It isn't anything great (just winged Jump Pack and a Scythe + the Iron Warriors upgrade helmet Skull looking one), but he's fun to look at.

 Crimson wrote:
Wait, GW pays you for liking their models? I am an idiot, I have been doing it for free! I like most of their models, I could have made a fortune!

Wait... do you it for free? I have to paid money to be able to like their models!

I've also been missing out on all this free cash for having a positive opinion.

By now, I might have been able to buy some Easy Build Intercessors!

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I've also been missing out on all this free cash for having a positive opinion.

By now, I might have been able to buy some Easy Build Intercessors!

Nah. Maybe some of the old push fit paint kit Marines if you got them on clearance...

 fraser1191 wrote:
The shoulder mounted gun is the most interesting part of the model imo

Think we'll see more aggressors with different mounted weapons, remember that hellfury's are still a thing we don't know about

I feel like it would be better if they dropped the Fierros Signum Array(leaving it to left arm and google-glass monocle), instead moving the gravgun to the center like the fragstorm launchers on aggressors.

Alternatively the gravgun on the left arm and signum array centrally mounted.

There may be a small mounting bracket on the far left that the gun is resting on; it just isn't well picked out.

 Stux wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:
Assuming that's giant-sized Lysander, it seems a shame he's ditched his traditional weaponry.

It's not Lysander. The datasheet is leaked.

'That makes sense - in Sentinels of Terra, Tor Garadon was one of Lysander's sergeants who ultimately got promoted to captain.

I gotta say, not a huge fan. He's better than Shrike by a lot though I'll give him that, and it doesn't look like he's wearing platform shoes which is nice.

 Galef wrote:

Another Over-the-Top model I've always like is the GK DreadKnight. It gets a lot of flakk for looking like a baby carrier, but the reasoning for it is suitably OTT. GKs are already anti-Daemon specialists and most of their characters can go 1v1 against Greater Daemons, but we also need an augment suit to put them at the same height and OP scale as a GD (fluff-wise anyway)

No, you don't need a suit to make you the same size as the thing you are fighting.
The entire point of GK was an order of knights standing against vast cosmic horrors and fighting them on foot, hand to hand.


The DK pisses on that rich seam of 'landsknecht V dragon/David V Goliath' imagery from 12 feet off the ground.

 Crimson wrote:
That IF guy makes me yearn for modre Gravis marines. The armour design is cool, but it actually looks better when both hands are not giant fists like on Aggressors. It is such a shame that the stock Gravis Captain has zero options. I was already planning convert one out of Calgar, but now I want to convert one out of Garandon too... But is silly to have two models for same character with exact same gear.

The assymetry makes him look more like a Terminator, which is a suit of armour, not an Imperial battlesuit. If you moved the grav gun down into his hand, he'd look like a soldier and not a pilot. So far we've seen a gravis techmarine/ironfather with an oddly mounted heavybolter- assymetrically backpack mounted like this guy's grav. I'd wager that down the line we will see expanded options for Primaris characters, with hardpoints and such for the Gravis suits.

 fraser1191 wrote:
The shoulder mounted gun is the most interesting part of the model imo

Think we'll see more aggressors with different mounted weapons, remember that hellfury's are still a thing we don't know about

I would want any Primaris Terminator replacement to be a version of this guy's Gravis armour in looks, a power fist, a Cawl pattern storm bolter, and any of a selection of back mounted weapons customizable for every member in the squad. Plus a helm that directly evokes Indomitus Terminators.

And just flipping call them Terminators. Primaris Terminators if one must.

 =Angel= wrote:

 Galef wrote:

Another Over-the-Top model I've always like is the GK DreadKnight. It gets a lot of flakk for looking like a baby carrier, but the reasoning for it is suitably OTT. GKs are already anti-Daemon specialists and most of their characters can go 1v1 against Greater Daemons, but we also need an augment suit to put them at the same height and OP scale as a GD (fluff-wise anyway)

No, you don't need a suit to make you the same size as the thing you are fighting.
The entire point of GK was an order of knights standing against vast cosmic horrors and fighting them on foot, hand to hand.

Spoiler:

The DK pisses on that rich seam of 'landsknecht V dragon/David V Goliath' imagery from 12 feet off the ground.

not too dereail the convo too much but Gandolf vs the Balrog wasn't exactly a situation of a mere mortal david vs a powerful goliath. they where both of the Order of Maia.

Karol wrote:
But what is wrong about the guys face, it is a regular dudes face, aside of the hair colour, I could find thousands of dudes having a face like that in my area. He has the classic miner/lumbermill/steelworker face.

Where do you live, Chernobyl?

BrianDavion wrote:

 =Angel= wrote:

 Galef wrote:

Another Over-the-Top model I've always like is the GK DreadKnight. It gets a lot of flakk for looking like a baby carrier, but the reasoning for it is suitably OTT. GKs are already anti-Daemon specialists and most of their characters can go 1v1 against Greater Daemons, but we also need an augment suit to put them at the same height and OP scale as a GD (fluff-wise anyway)

No, you don't need a suit to make you the same size as the thing you are fighting.
The entire point of GK was an order of knights standing against vast cosmic horrors and fighting them on foot, hand to hand.

Spoiler:

The DK pisses on that rich seam of 'landsknecht V dragon/David V Goliath' imagery from 12 feet off the ground.

not too dereail the convo too much but Gandolf vs the Balrog wasn't exactly a situation of a mere mortal david vs a powerful goliath. they where both of the Order of Maia.

Regardless of both Gandalf and the Balrog being Maiar, the imagery invoked is blatantly David vs. Goliath, just like Sam vs. Shelob or Eowyn (and Merry) vs. the Witch-King. True, the power difference between Gandalf and the Balrog wasn't anywhere near what it looked like, but when we're discussing imagery looks are everything.

I would have preferred this model.

Karol wrote:
But what is wrong about the guys face, it is a regular dudes face, aside of the hair colour, I could find thousands of dudes having a face like that in my area. He has the classic miner/lumbermill/steelworker face.

Yeah, I kind of like it, and I can totally see the Fists having a steelworker tough jock look.

Not as much as I like Shrike's head, but the Imperial Fists don't have a stereotype and theme that features a funny haircut as it's most prominent expression, so it doesn't scream "IMPERIAL FISTS" the way Shrike's emo haircut says "RAVEN GUARD!"



As for favorite over-the-top weapons on a model, probably the multiple missile launcher on the Exorcist. It's a pipe organ that shoots missiles, and is a hilarious reference to the nicknames of old rocket launchers and their reputation for making noise.

For recent models, it's absolutely the Eliminators' Bolt Sniper Rifle.

 Tamwulf wrote:
I would have preferred this model.

I wont like

i like that pose with the double piston fisters alot.

 bullyboy wrote:

Karol wrote:
But what is wrong about the guys face, it is a regular dudes face, aside of the hair colour, I could find thousands of dudes having a face like that in my area. He has the classic miner/lumbermill/steelworker face.

Where do you live, Chernobyl?

No. My flag clearly shows that I could not live in Chernobyl, that city is in Ukrain.

As wester people looking like that, I saw avatar movie no so long ago, there was a officer there with a face like that. Arnold has a face like that too. Ton of people with faces like that. Dolph Lundgren is another western guy.

I would have preferred this model

I would unironicaly do too. non symetric stuff boders me like almost no thing in the world most of the time. I think they didn't go the two fists two guns root, because it would make him too much like calgar, and that would bring the risk people wouldn't buy the new model.

Not a fan of the grav gun/wrist display combo.

First, I think it's weird that all these guns just mount on a regular backpack. I liked the specialized backpacks for Devastators, but these seem like you just bolt a pintle mount on the backpack and go.

Second, how the hell does he interface with the display on his left forearm? It has buttons on the face AND the lid. Does he poke the buttons with his power fist fingers?

Finally, he has no weapon in that hand. Couldn't he just carry the damn grav gun in that hand? Primaris can one-hand all these huge guns, so why not just carry that one? What the hell is he doing with his left hand? Picking his nose?

Da Butcha wrote:
Not a fan of the grav gun/wrist display combo.

First, I think it's weird that all these guns just mount on a regular backpack. I liked the specialized backpacks for Devastators, but these seem like you just bolt a pintle mount on the backpack and go.

Second, how the hell does he interface with the display on his left forearm? It has buttons on the face AND the lid. Does he poke the buttons with his power fist fingers?

Finally, he has no weapon in that hand. Couldn't he just carry the damn grav gun in that hand? Primaris can one-hand all these huge guns, so why not just carry that one? What the hell is he doing with his left hand? Picking his nose?

There is a powerfist that has an opening for the hand in the palm, so maybe his does as well?

You'd be shocked to learn at how nimble the finger of a Power Fist are in the hands of a Astartes

 alextroy wrote:
You'd be shocked to learn at how nimble the finger of a Power Fist are in the hands of a Astartes

Delicate enough to hold an egg without breaking it I'm sure. Doesn't help you push tiny buttons though, unless he's hidden a stylus somewhere.

Karol's right that the face is hardly super odd looking, the mini is clearly somewhat stylized (as all 40k minis are) but it's clear that the character simply has a square jaw. IIRC a square jaw is associated BTW with testestrone and maniliness.

Dorn also has a bit of a square jaw, and if anything you could argue that he's got a face like a wall, cornwra and all.

You know, I'd love to have a positive opinion on every GW model, if every GW model was great.

Alas, life isn't ever going to give me only things to cheer, the IF guy looks over fat, with a cock knocker huge super fist and a dumb looking bad toy soldier face.

The salamanders guy looks pretty nice though, all things considered.

AngryAngel80 wrote:
You know, I'd love to have a positive opinion on every GW model, if every GW model was great.

Alas, life isn't ever going to give me only things to cheer, the IF guy looks over fat, with a cock knocker huge super fist and a dumb looking bad toy soldier face.

The salamanders guy looks pretty nice though, all things considered.

Lemondish wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
The shoulder mounted gun is the most interesting part of the model imo

Think we'll see more aggressors with different mounted weapons, remember that hellfury's are still a thing we don't know about

I would want any Primaris Terminator replacement to be a version of this guy's Gravis armour in looks, a power fist, a Cawl pattern storm bolter, and any of a selection of back mounted weapons customizable for every member in the squad. Plus a helm that directly evokes Indomitus Terminators.

And just flipping call them Terminators. Primaris Terminators if one must.

I don't think we'll ever see Primaris terminators. If we do they'll be aggressors with an invuln. Kinda like calgar. But who knows, calgar had a model in normal armour and one in terminator armour. Maybe hell get another in PT armour

That being said if I have to make a prediction I'd say aggressors with a Strom shield and a boltstorm gauntlet with a top mounted weapon