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I think I will probably build a bunch of different detachments in my Inquisiton list. You simply can't keep it to 3.

3 Inquisitors does not a Conclave make. Lol

Played a game today with a bonus inquisitor added to my deathwatch against dark elder.

Took a terminator with psycannon. Gave him the extra psykic warlord trait and reduce wound rolls relic.

He was pretty boss, took a hit well and dished out some mortal wounds and took away some overwatch or gained me a CP with his powers.

The psycannon is a far cry from the terror it was a couple of editions ago, low ap, single damage and heavy weapon move and hit penalty make it pretty feeble but it's not many points.

The deepstike was great, and the thunderhammer is always good.

Other than that I've moved my stormbolter acolytes up the painting queue, intend to run two squads of 5 stormbolter and a single plasma along with a couple of monkeys. Taking those with coteaz seems pretty reasonable.

Did anyone else notice how they goofed up Greyfax?

She is clearly Ordo Xenos in all the books/stories but she is ordo hereticus in her rules.

Typo or balancing?

 Eihnlazer wrote:
Did anyone else notice how they goofed up Greyfax?

She is clearly Ordo Xenos in all the books/stories but she is ordo hereticus in her rules.

Typo or balancing?

She has always been Hereticus in her fluff hasn't she? Up until this index?

Theres literally a blurb box 1 or 2 pages before the datasheets that mentions she is ordos xenos.

 Eihnlazer wrote:
Theres literally a blurb box 1 or 2 pages before the datasheets that mentions she is ordos xenos.

Right. "Up until this index." That lore blurb is the first (and last) place she's ever been Ordo Xenos.

I’m really disappointed in how fun options for Inquisitors (for my own opinion) just aren’t good.

Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor with Condemnor Boltgun and Null Rod is bad math and wasting a ranged weapons slot on a needle pistol on an Inquisitor is also bad. I like the concept of a Corrosive Acid Force Sword backed by a Needle Pistol, it’s just not good.

 Apple Peel wrote:
I’m really disappointed in how fun options for Inquisitors (for my own opinion) just aren’t good.

Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor with Condemnor Boltgun and Null Rod is bad math and wasting a ranged weapons slot on a needle pistol on an Inquisitor is also bad. I like the concept of a Corrosive Acid Force Sword backed by a Needle Pistol, it’s just not good.

I'm disappointed in how the good options for inquisitors just went away. Power/Artificer armor, Iron halos, full spectrum of power/force weapons, etc.

So, I think it bears saying, competitive type people may well see a real way to put inquisition into soup.
Questioning 17 (25 points more than the rusty 17, the basic light admech soup of the day battalion)
1 engenseer
1 base inquisitor psyker / warlord trait for extra psyker
3 x 5 man .. msu squad skitarii
It brings you from 165 points for your 5 cp and your admech being able to repair (for example knights, or gaurd mecha) up to 190, and you lose a cp to give the inquisitor TWO denials and TWO spells instead of just one.

Result? If you aren't heavy into repairs, you got 2 cast and 2 deny in an admech battalion for 1 cp before game and 25 points upcost. This seems like it would be really useful for admech, but even MORE useful for the admech that is souped into a knight list.

Now the knight list has 2 deny/cast, and can tap into "knight of the cog" for the first 2 rounds to give the knights (freakishly) canticle based cover for their massive armor frames. Or rerolls of 1.

I am guess it won't be necessary to push all the way up to the guy who can deny 3 a round (the 110 point forgeworld psyker inquisitor can do that) but for a quite modest price, you have potentially screwed someone who can't get to your knight without warptime, or who is trying, desperately, to give your knight the treason spell that lets you unload its guns into your own side.

In the Gaurd side, the "thinkey 32" (yep, I have a pet name for that, too) is a varient of the commonly seen but over commanded cheap 180 point 32.
its
company commander
psyker primaris (1 smite and 1 deny)
<<<< replace primaris psyker with the same 55 point, -1cp psyk inquisitor. Viola, you have bought a cast of some spell for 9 points, and that's pretty awesome.
30 regular gaurd in 3 10 man.

So this becomes only a NINE points more and 1 cp spent to give your psyker a second deny and cast each roudn by going inquisition AND to get leadership buffs. And a potentially much more useful (in soup) spell list.

Finally?

In a big gaurd list, where you already have 3 psykers and an astropath, (or in my big lists, often, FOUR psykers and an astropath) you can now add in one of these guys to create basically gaurd smitespam with malstrom icing on top, and it seriously confuses people when you say "ok, smite. smite... smite again. darn it all, smite AGAIN, and AGAIN." Even though you won't probably get all of them, even a 9+ smite attempt has a 52 percent chance of sucess if you save your reroll for it. Even most knights that suddenly get 4 or 5 smites on them, are apt to feel it. (This little pile works well with stuff like crusaders or bullygryn, because when you run out of frontlines to buff, it can earn its points back again by smiting.)

Only now, it can ALSO deny overwatch in the local area while boosting leadership (which is surprisingly useful for tank commanders, who are otherwise only 6 ld).

None of this is game breaking, but its the obvious low hanging fruit of getting the inquisition into soup lists, from my perspective.

For space marines, its a psyker with 2 powers who saves a bunch of points against an actual space marine librarian -- but the cheapo inquisitor is basically worthless in combat. So you are losing as much as you are gaining, I suspect, unless the different spellpower access is what you really seek.

The inquisitor does not take up a slot...meaning he/she can’t replace one of your mandatory HQs.

Greyfax was originally Hereticus, but I imagine being kept as a wall ornament by a Necron for hundreds of years may have resulted in her switching Ordos.

I was looking forward to adding some Inquisitorial Storm Troopers to my Sisters army, six of 'em with CombiPlasma (because it's the same cost as plasma...) shooting out of a Repressor.

But the Repressor is rumored to be 'Legend'-ed out of existence.

Making them Ordo Minoris would give 'em re-roll hits & wounds vs. Characters, adding a Minoris =][= would let 'em snipe characters if the right psyker power goes off.

 Mr Morden wrote:
They seem to be made for adding to other Imperial forces (which makes sense!).

A basic Inquisitor does not break the mono faction rules and can have a relic and Wl trait (get CPs back or -LD, or stuff) for 1 CP

This actually makes an Inquisitor playable - getting CPs back on a 5+.
Give him a psychic power and she/he can be an asset of your army.

What about for 1000, or 1250/1500 point games?
Do folks just not play less thatn 2000?
No sub 1000 point quick games?
No 500 point 40k in 40 minute style games?

In lower point games, I feel like mono Inquisition has a chance.

 Blndmage wrote:
What about for 1000, or 1250/1500 point games?
Do folks just not play less thatn 2000?
No sub 1000 point quick games?
No 500 point 40k in 40 minute style games?

In lower point games, I feel like mono Inquisition has a chance.

But the Inquisitor doesn't occupy a slot.

Is the new WD worth picking up for these rules for a filthy casual like myself? I've grabbed some scions to make into henchmen, and having seen that combi-plas and real plasma costs the same, I'm wondering how to convert mine.
Are there any big changes?

As it stands, in terms of inquisitorial grunts, I've got an arry of dudes with basic guns (skitarii rifles, but doing duty variously as lasgun/autogun or bolter in a pinch), I'm doing up some custodes as power armor henchmen with power weapons and bolters/melta, and was originally planning that the scions would fulfill my need for plasma in the collection. Would it be a better shout to give 'em combi-plasma, and are there any really radical changes from the index? Cheers!

Is the new WD worth picking up for these rules for a filthy casual like myself? I've grabbed some scions to make into henchmen, and having seen that combi-plas and real plasma costs the same, I'm wondering how to convert mine.
Are there any big changes?

It's nice to have these rules at hand just for the occasion you want to field an Inquisitor.
My GK army will see an Inquisitor at the 2000 pt level.

Seem to be worth it for the anti Overwatch power.

Might try one in my IK list.

Greyfax seems like a pretty fun slot in for SoB. 2 +1 deny's,, terrify to shut off overwatch for our squishy melee units, 3 damage psyker sniping bolter. Not sure if its ever worth the 1CP to give her 6" intervention and no escape.

Karamazov on the other hand seems like he could be fun running in a several unit pen engine list. though he is alot slower than them he does have a 30" assault multi-melta

I plan on taking an inquisitor in all my marine armies. The idea of an inquisitor dropping in a drop pod and casting terrify to deny overwatch is just too good. Then whomever came within can charge free of any worries. Assault marines, death company, crusader squad, whomever, you can't deny the effectiveness of charging without fear or retaliation.

Add a 2nd power for cp generation, or killing key models (you put a combi plasma on your srg? Guess who's overcharging and firing both profiles at that -1 to hit stormraven

Azuza001 wrote:
I plan on taking an inquisitor in all my marine armies. The idea of an inquisitor dropping in a drop pod and casting terrify to deny overwatch is just too good. Then whomever came within can charge free of any worries. Assault marines, death company, crusader squad, whomever, you can't deny the effectiveness of charging without fear or retaliation.

Add a 2nd power for cp generation, or killing key models (you put a combi plasma on your srg? Guess who's overcharging and firing both profiles at that -1 to hit stormraven

Well, I plan to take an Ordo Malleus Inquisitor with terminator armor as an add-on for my GKs.
CP generation is too good to pass.

Ordo Xenos inquisitor w/ ignore overwatch psy power + CP farming for 55pts + 1CP is great!

Ordo Minoris for the psyker power to snipe Characters, for me.

8th Ed “Witch Hunters” List: 2000 points, 14 ~ 16 CP



=][= Vanguard Detachment (+1 CP) 251 points

74 HQ =][= Minoris, Combi Plasma, Force Sword

57 EL 3 Acolytes, 3 Plasma

22 EL 1 Jokaero

76 EL 4 Acolytes. 4 Plasma

22 EL 1 Jokaero



Ebon Chalice Battalion Detachment (+5 CP) 555 points

45 HQ Canoness (-1 CP) WARLORD: +d3 CP, 1st MD = 6

38 HQ Missionary

49 TR 5 Sisters, 2 Storm Bolters

49 TR 5 Sisters, 2 Storm Bolters

66 TR 5 Sisters, Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Hand Flamer

131 HV 5 Retributors, 4 Heavy Flamers, CombiMelta, 2 Cherub

67 DT Rhino, Storm Bolter

110 DT Immolator, Immolation Cannon, Heavy Bolter



Martyred Lady Battalion Detachment (+5 CP) 1194 points

131 HQ Junith Erutia

60 HQ Canoness, Chainsword, Relic Inferno Pistol, Brazier of Holy Fire, WARLORD: +1 MD/turn

98 TR 5 Sisters, 2 Meltas, CombiMelta, Cherub, Simulacrum

70 TR 5 Sisters, 2 Storm Bolters, CombiPlasma, Cherub, Simulacrum

70 TR 5 Sisters, 2 Storm Bolters, CombiPlasma, Cherub, Simulacrum

70 TR 5 Sisters, 2 Storm Bolters, CombiPlasma, Cherub, Simulacrum

94 FA 6 Seraphim, 4 Inferno Pistols

170 HV Exorcist, Exorcist launcher, Heavy Bolter

170 HV Exorcist, Exorcist launcher, Heavy Bolter

107 DT Repressor, Heavy Flamer, Storm Bolter

107 DT Repressor, Heavy Flamer, Storm Bolter

110 DT Immolator, Immolation Cannon, Heavy Bolter

For my GK army, I see no enrichment by including an Inquisitor.
An ordo xenos with reimbursing CPs would be useful in principle but fluffwise not for my GK.

I’m running an Inquisitor with my Grey Knights and he’s pretty useful. He combos well with Purge Soul, letting you set up a LD10 guy with -1 to enemy leadership very easily. He brings cheap dudes you can stick in land raiders with your expensive guys to eat any 1’s when it wrecks, who can also sit on objectives if you don’t want to bring a guard brigade. He also offers a plethora of CP recovery options for a cp starved army with a psychic power, stratagem and warlord trait.

got my copy of WD about a week ago, looking at the rules tonight, and while I'm astounded that combi-plas and plasma are the same, points wise, I noticed hotshot lasguns are only 4 points a pop...

...I'm thinking of carving up a box of scions to give them all plasma... (though even that now, is kinda in the air, as combi-plas is rather tempting...), but the coward in me thinks I should throw in the towel, and keep them with their usual plastic loadout? Thoughts, Inquisitors?

Are you planning to run the Scions as actual Scions, or Acolytes?

Acolytes.

A.T. wrote:
The prometheus, despite being outdated and overcosted, is pretty ugly with things like Coteaz and psychic pursuit (or a xenos inquisitor and psychic veil, or even minoris for character sniping). Optionally jam a monkey up behind it and take 24 S5 AP-1 shots at everything that enters play and any character that you choose.

Going to get hit with the force of a thousand nerf hammers in the next update though.

Do you really think it will get nerfed? The LR prometheus got a points drop in CA. But it does seem like they could easily and an <ordo> INFANTRY keyword to psychic pursuit.

Has anyone given hector rex a try, he seems to be a bit expensive at 100 points, but with t4, 2+ and a storm shield he is pretty durable, he can deep strike to help get his powers in range and most importantly, he can cast two and deny three whole using a psychic hood. With the ordo malleus warlord trait he gets even better, and can offset some serious support and psychic defence.