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Looks a bit like Isengard from LOTR.

The full image - top right is the relevant part. Something troll sized with the rumour engine club up there?

Looks like a minotaur on a sort of beast mount to me.

Edit : yeah there is also more ogre sized monster above

Yep, there is something big.

But that is for tomorrow.

I'm finding it really hard to be interested in this new faction. From all the hints they seem like they'll be extremely derivative fantasy orc/goblin stuff. Pretty much most of the destruction alliance is like that to me, though. It seems like with destruction they are having trouble coming up with interesting stuff, whereas order gets stuff like elves riding eels and flying steampunk dwarves.

Quasistellar wrote:
I'm finding it really hard to be interested in this new faction. From all the hints they seem like they'll be extremely derivative fantasy orc/goblin stuff. Pretty much most of the destruction alliance is like that to me, though. It seems like with destruction they are having trouble coming up with interesting stuff, whereas order gets stuff like elves riding eels and flying steampunk dwarves.

I have to concur...while I am not a fan of the Destruction forces per se, I am a huge fan of Chaos Dwarves and Fimir
(and have more of each than is reasonable)...either of which could have easily followed Kragnos. A God-Like Bull Centaur and/or a mystic godly amalgam would fit the themes of either force.

Now, if they manage to blend the Mongolian Hobgobins into this army, my interest will be reignited.

I wonder if they will bring the bog beast and wizard in from a few years ago. I forget the story arch but it was an island "Albion" shrouded by mist. I really liked the metal fen beast.

What's in the box?

I think the more important question would be;

Have you made enough boxes?

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
What's in the box?

I think the more important question would be;

Have you made enough boxes?

What's the point of asking a question we already know the answer to?

Said answer obviously being "No, FOMO FTW"

Slaanesh twins on 105 mm oval bases, interesting.

Also, Kragnny's on 130 mm. Not as over expensive as I expected but he is still too much for the amount of plastic.

Slaanesh's twins are far weaker than expected.

Synessa is only 9 wounds,
Dexcessa 10...

Definitely not even greater deamon league.

Some nice abilities, but still, profile wise color me
disappointed.

 DaveC wrote:
The full image - top right is the relevant part. Something troll sized with the rumour engine club up there?

Spoiler:

What about the mounted thing behind the Mega boss?

Togusa wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The full image - top right is the relevant part. Something troll sized with the rumour engine club up there?

Spoiler:

What about the mounted thing behind the Mega boss?

Savage orcs

Boy, 18 wounds for Lord Kroak, daaaamn...

 CMLR wrote:


Boy, 18 wounds for Lord Kroak, daaaamn...

Pre ORder's up for NZ.

Looking at Kroak's sheet....

18 wounds seems impressive until you realise he has no protection against abilities or spells that kill outright (like Nagash's Hand of Dust).

Warsong revenant is mediocre to say the least. I guess the points will be the deciding factor, but that BS aura is kind of junk.

Also gone is Kroaknado; Balewind Vortex is gone too from the store.

However, he will still be his own beast, because there is no way they will pump up any plastic Slanns to 18 wounds too.

Loved how the palanquin is now a proper hover shield generator too.

If inspiring presence goes away Warsong goes up in value. The new Wyldwood changes are good.

 timofeo wrote:
If inspiring presence goes away Warsong goes up in value. The new Wyldwood changes are good.

What new wyldwood changes?

Quasistellar wrote:
I'm finding it really hard to be interested in this new faction. From all the hints they seem like they'll be extremely derivative fantasy orc/goblin stuff. Pretty much most of the destruction alliance is like that to me, though. It seems like with destruction they are having trouble coming up with interesting stuff, whereas order gets stuff like elves riding eels and flying steampunk dwarves.

Gotta admit, the 'derivative fantasy orc/goblin' angle is exactly what's appealing to me. I want something that I can just drop in a fantasy RPG. Keep the 'interesting' (goofy) Order stuff as far away from me as possible.

But destruction in general seems to be in the worst place, I'll agree. It feels like the 'not-squatted-yet' grand alliance, with a few surviving distinctly warhammer sculpts (night gobbos, squigs, stone trolls, savage orcs, fat ogres and that one weird mutation of black orcs which... didn't take). Its definitely the area that needs the MOST attention at this point (though Malekith's followers finally getting revealed 3 editions in would be nice as well. Well that and the still unanswered question of 'what's normal life like, then?').

IMO, it would have been a lot more interesting to have a regular human army in that box instead of Stormcast.

Really disappointing (though expected) to see that they are doing the 40k model of always putting in the same army.

GW has focused heavily on Death all through 2nd edition to the point where now I'd say Death is perhaps in the best position with "almost" all its finecast gone and its models updated in general.

Sure Flesheaters and Ossiarchs would like some more models for variety and its clear that Vampires (soulblight) are going out with a bang getting a huge range of models all to themselves.


That said GW has been talking about Destruction for a long time and I think whilst 2nd edition was Death, I think 3rd will be Destruction getting a huge focus.


And yes I think getting Malarion's army out would be great, they are the last big army that's been hinted at and its really odd that one whole realm - Shadow - basically hasn't had any activity from its major player (lets not forget even taking a City of Sigmar, Morathi still only rules and holes a tiny corner of the realm)

Quasistellar wrote:
dwarves.

*Dwarfs.

That's going to the Book of Grudges.

 CMLR wrote:

Quasistellar wrote:
dwarves.

*Dwarfs.

That's going to the Book of Grudges.

Really the KO have more in common with dwemer

 mokoshkana wrote:

 timofeo wrote:
If inspiring presence goes away Warsong goes up in value. The new Wyldwood changes are good.

What new wyldwood changes?

It doesn't block line of sight for Slyvaneth any more. It's also 1-3 tree models now which makes it much easier to fit one in a small gap.

mortar_crew wrote:
Slaanesh's twins are far weaker than expected.

Synessa is only 9 wounds,
Dexcessa 10...

Definitely not even greater deamon league.

Some nice abilities, but still, profile wise color me
disappointed.

Yeah, their profiles are not so great. But why is Synessa "the Slaanesh Sorceress" limited to 1 cast and 1 denial a turn. Dexcessa is supposed to be choppy character but is limited to red -2 and damage 2. Heres hopping that they're pointed appropriately. I still can't help but feel disappointed given how much GW hyped them.

 Sersi wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:
Slaanesh's twins are far weaker than expected.

Synessa is only 9 wounds,
Dexcessa 10...

Definitely not even greater deamon league.

Some nice abilities, but still, profile wise color me
disappointed.

Yeah, their profiles are not so great. But why is Synessa "the Slaanesh Sorceress" limited to 1 cast and 1 denial a turn. Dexcessa is supposed to be choppy character but is limited to red -2 and damage 2. Heres hopping that they're pointed appropriately. I still can't help but feel disappointed given how much GW hyped them.

Same here.

The Epitome is better at casting/dispelling than Slaanesh's progeny...

Yeah, the Slaanesh Twins are really odd. I was expecting KoS + 1 kind of stats, but they are closer to a herald than a KoS from these stats.

 Sasori wrote:
Yeah, the Slaanesh Twins are really odd. I was expecting KoS + 1 kind of stats, but they are closer to a herald than a KoS from these stats.

Indeed.

And they are on even greater bases than the KoS.

Their -1 to hit thing will not help that much.

Lumineth archers will still mortal wound them out in a turn or two...

 CMLR wrote:

Togusa wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The full image - top right is the relevant part. Something troll sized with the rumour engine club up there?

Spoiler:

What about the mounted thing behind the Mega boss?

Savage orcs

Boy, 18 wounds for Lord Kroak, daaaamn...

That looks nothing like any Savage Ork model in existence. The mount looks way more modern. No way, that has to be something from the new line. Look at the shield.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
What's in the box?

I think the more important question would be;

Have you made enough boxes?

Yes for the　goal. Goal isn't to give best discount for all


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 CMLR wrote:

Togusa wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
The full image - top right is the relevant part. Something troll sized with the rumour engine club up there?

Spoiler:

What about the mounted thing behind the Mega boss?

Savage orcs

Boy, 18 wounds for Lord Kroak, daaaamn...

The wound thing only relevant for vanishing at once　rather than end of phase though(plus some rule　interactions like gargant pick up)