2020 Rumour Engine thread.

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**Marshal Loss**

Dearly hope the speculation linking Dark Eldar to EC pans out, but either way, the old Lelith model is a classic and I hope this one lives up to its legacy

**rollawaythestone**

Lelith confirmed.

**terry**

rollawaythestone wrote:
Lelith confirmed.

still not confirmed, but highly likely. GW can still take elements of the current Lelith sculpt and apply them to a different army

**General Kroll**

Does look very much like bits from a plastic Lelith, and she’s in the finecast range so would make sense to see her replaced.

**GaroRobe**

I'm also betting on Lelith.

But just to speculate, the only other Aelf model with chain hair is the Tenebrael shard, who looks like he'll be part of the Khanite stalkers. We haven't seen every model in that warband so its still possible that the hair could be for him.

But it's probably Lelith

**Kanluwen**

Shadowstalkers are different to the Tenebrael Shard, who alongside of the Mistweaver Saih, is Shadowkin...

Or at least that's what was implied early on. The Shadowkin are Malerion's creations. Shadowstalkers are Aelves that are sworn to Morathi but not part of her Daughters of Khaine faction.

**Iracundus**

Return of Lelith suggests a Dark Eldar wave of releases coming? Or could GW maybe finally have decided to do Ynnari?

**Prodigalson**

You know, it is probably Ynnari now that you say that. They received nothing, not even an article about them in the lead up, and GW didn't even comment when people asked. She also works for the Ynnari now. I am just not going to be surprised if Ynnari could possibly get an update as it's own range all of the sudden to combat the Necrons. They are mentioned by name in the Piraha.

**bullyboy**

Yes, Ynnari have been pushed hard in the PA lore, right from the beginning. Would be nice to actually see them fleshed out for real.

**strigops**

Would suck for DE players tought. I mean can you imagine being told that one of your armies only three named characters is being re done.. for another army?

**petrov27**

Its about as great as being a Harlequin player and their first ever named character is a sidekick for a sisters release

**MajorWesJanson**

strigops wrote:
Would suck for DE players tought. I mean can you imagine being told that one of your armies only three named characters is being re done.. for another army?

Best case is just give her both faction keywords. I am looking forwards to the redesign though. Nearly all of the redone named characters have kept to the spirit of the original while improving the technical side of the sculpt.

**Fayric**

Kind of missed opportunity for the rumor engine not to focus on Leliths scenic base.
Or maybe they did, and we just missed it

**Togusa**

Gremore wrote:

If this isn't belligerently a plastic Lelith Hesperax, then I'm a Drukhari's Uncle.

Now with model for comparison

Yeah, there is no question. That's Lilith.

So, dark eldar release in the fall?

**Voss**

I think we're already past fall releases.

Necrons, Deathwatch, Space Marines, plus Cow Elves proper, Giants, a whack of various specialist games stuff that's been long delayed.

They'd be a very good candidate for an Soon update, though. They just got a kicking they really didn't deserve, a pile of Citadel Finecast that needs to disposed of, and thin FOC slots that need some real love.

**Togusa**

Deathwatch is getting models? News to me, is there a source on that?

**Voss**

Togusa wrote:
Deathwatch is getting models? News to me, is there a source on that?

No idea on models. Just one of the GW streams saying they're coming 'early-ish'

**casvalremdeikun**

A new Lelith is good. I wouldn't mind her for my Dark Eldar.

**vipoid**

Oh good, Dark Eldar are getting another remake of a perfectly functional existing model.

Because heaven forbid a faction that has lost about 80% of it's HQ options and wargear actually get new units.

Currently, the entire DE codex comprises fewer models than the HQ section of the SM codex, and they haven't had a new unit in over a decade. But that's okay, GW, just keep vomiting out new Primaris models. That never gets old.

**H.B.M.C.**

vipoid wrote:
Oh good, Dark Eldar are getting another remake of a perfectly functional existing model.

It's resin. It has to go.

Best Case Scenario: GW releases plastic versions of all the current DE resin units (Mandrakes, Grotesques, Beastmasters, Clawed Fiends, Razorwings, Ur-Ghuls, Urien, Sslyths, Lhamaeans, Khymerae and Medusae).

More Likely Solution: They ignore them completely and release a bunch of new units with dumb Adjective Nounverb names.

**Tim the Biovore**

A resin purge of the Dark Eldar line would be well appreciated, but Ynnari seem more likely (first time for everything, huh?)

**Kanluwen**

Tim the Biovore wrote:
A resin purge of the Dark Eldar line would be well appreciated, but Ynnari seem more likely (first time for everything, huh?)

One of the things that was getting bandied about as a rumor was that Ynnari would be getting a "crossfaction" component to any potential faction range they got.

I'm wondering if that might be how/why more new Aspects have taken some time to happen? Might be that Ynnari ends up being a supplement book for both Asuryani and Drukhari.

**vipoid**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Oh good, Dark Eldar are getting another remake of a perfectly functional existing model.
It's resin. It has to go.

Why?

**H.B.M.C.**

vipoid wrote:
Why?

GW ain't in the business of making resin anymore. Haven't you noticed that their releases are plastic these days except for some very specific exceptions (like Severina Raine).

**MajorWesJanson**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Oh good, Dark Eldar are getting another remake of a perfectly functional existing model.
It's resin. It has to go.

Best Case Scenario: GW releases plastic versions of all the current DE resin units (Mandrakes, Grotesques, Beastmasters, Clawed Fiends, Razorwings, Ur-Ghuls, Urien, Sslyths, Lhamaeans, Khymerae and Medusae).

More Likely Solution: They ignore them completely and release a bunch of new units with dumb Adjective Nounverb names.

Ur Ghuls already have a plastic model, thanks to blackstone fortress. But DE are in a bit of an odd spot in that they have 2 units left that need plastic kits (grotesques especially, mandrakes a bit less so) and then a ton of essentially characters.

Sort of depends on how big a release DE will see next.

**Voss**

I still think they should bump ur-ghuls from court to beastmasters and expand that concept.
A weird haemonculi with truly outre' experiments, and more stuff from the dark corners of the city.

Integrate additional elite stuff (cults like incubi... but functional for the current edition) and expand the variety available to different HQs.

**casvalremdeikun**

I would love for plastic Mandrakes to be coming. I have considered converting some of the Sea Elf dudes to Mandrakes, but a new kit would be much better. I would prefer if they were remaking Lelith that they would do more kits to go with her. Also, go ahead and give us a Phoenix Lord alongside a plastic remake of one of the Aspect Warrior squads while we are at it. It worked for Drazhar and the Incubi and Howling Banshees and...whatever their Phoenix Lord's name is.

**Fayric**

Bah, Drukhari can get an upgrade sprue like us poor marine players.
2 uniqe heads, a fancy sword and then you have it, all your options are set.

**Iracundus**

Both Craftworlders and Dark Eldar are in a tricky position. If their wave consists of just or mostly plastic remakes, then people will complain that there is not enough new stuff. If they mostly add more new stuff, people will complain about how many remaining resin units there are.

**The Phazer**

vipoid wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
vipoid wrote:
Oh good, Dark Eldar are getting another remake of a perfectly functional existing model.
It's resin. It has to go.

Why?

GW have made it more than clear they want to shut down finecast production sooner rather than later - it was a failed idea and the business wants everything plastic.