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Well, that was a definitely one of the better reveals, but of course it was from the Forgeworld boys so it’s expected

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Less than US$300?

So it'll be US$299.

Literally what I said out loud to my son who was watching with me.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Ok, so. If the price is actually right, and it's the same in euros, that should mean less than 225 euros for the box? That's... actually very reasonable, moreso for GW.

I would expect 250€ with a UK price close to 200 pounds

€225 is the price of the last Necromunda, which is £180 pounds and $299. So... maybe, but then the change rate will be different because GW.

Thought that one was more but then I could also see 225.

Either its this price since they said under $300 or they change their US conversion and its more in Pounds and Euro which I don't think they will do

225 with Third Party discount would be around 200€ or less which would be nice

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Haven't seen them, are they arms+guns, or only guns? If it's the second, fat chance.

They're arms and guns.

Well, then if it's the full arm, they really should fit...

Just saw the article... and it seems it's just weapon + hands, which would make them MkVI exclusive. Or, at least, harder to kitbash than otherwise.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Less than US$300?

So it'll be US$299.

Literally what I said out loud to my son who was watching with me.

Whenever I read something like that I am always reminded of the original Blood Angel army box release from 2nd Ed.

"Over 2000 points". The included list showed that it was 2001 points.

Luckily I don't like the Termis, so the box is not that tempting.

Is the plastic Rhino bigger than the current tiny boxes on tracks? I have zero Rhinos because they're laughably small, but with the upcoming World Eaters dex I *have* to continue my immediatly post-Heresy WEs and those Berzerkrers need Rhinos. The Spartan is a chunky boi, that's probably a buy.

I love the boxes with ALL the guns. Seriously, what guns? ALL OF THEM! A box of guns for Orks that provide more Freeboota-like shootas and blunderbusses, Kommandos silenced/tacticool weapons or similiar, the possibilities. 3d printing says hi, but boxes of plastics that can be easily converted further and stick to everything plastic without superglue would be a dream.

£200 price is huge news if true, I'm very happy to hear it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Less than US$300?

So it'll be US$299.

Literally what I said out loud to my son who was watching with me.

Whenever I read something like that I am always reminded of the original Blood Angel army box release from 2nd Ed.

"Over 2000 points". The included list showed that it was 2001 points.

Haha! Classic GW, correct in fact but not so in spirit. I hope all you Heresy heads are stoked by these reveals, the weapon sets are a great bonus to those of you with armless resin bodies in your piles of shame. And if it is £199 odd that just looks so much better value than the £160 Chaos Knight box on preorder today.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Haven't seen them, are they arms+guns, or only guns? If it's the second, fat chance.

They're arms and guns.

Well, then if it's the full arm, they really should fit...

Just saw the article... and it seems it's just weapon + hands, which would make them MkVI exclusive. Or, at least, harder to kitbash than otherwise.

On the stream they talked about getting an article up (not sure if they're committed to it, we'll see) on how the weapons fit on Mk.III and Mk.IV Marines.

I doubt special weapons will be an issue. The hands on them need to fit Mk.VI bolter hands, so they should fit bolter arms of other marks just fine. The heavy weapons are supposed to have their own Mk.VI arms for better poses. I expect you can convert other marks' arms with minimal trouble to accommodate the handheld weapons if they don't fit outright. I don't think the shoulder mounted ones will fit without heavy conversion or resorting to the Mk.VI ones, though.

I don’t really care about Horus Heresy or it’s lore or arguments about which legion used which mark when. This old man just looks at all of this and thinks, “Proper marines!!”

I want them all!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Spoiler:

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Less than US$300?

So it'll be US$299.

Literally what I said out loud to my son who was watching with me.

Whenever I read something like that I am always reminded of the original Blood Angel army box release from 2nd Ed.

"Over 2000 points". The included list showed that it was 2001 points.

If I had guessed that MK3 and MK4 would rerelease in 20-man squads, I probably wouldn't have picked ten of each last week. Then again, doing so allows me at least a month of head start to jump on Heresy train.

It's worth pointing out that new Special and Heavy weapons have both their hands attached while MK3 and MK4 only have the right hand so they are not going to be 100% compatible. However, for many guns it's probably as easy as chopping the left hand from MK3 and MK4 arms and eyeballing that the arms are aligned.

MK6 is not my cup of hot beverage but if the box ends being cheaper than Ash Wastes then I can see it being worth it for rules, Spartan, Contemptor, Terminators and characters alone.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Haven't seen them, are they arms+guns, or only guns? If it's the second, fat chance.

They're arms and guns.

Well, then if it's the full arm, they really should fit...

Just saw the article... and it seems it's just weapon + hands, which would make them MkVI exclusive. Or, at least, harder to kitbash than otherwise.

Given how much smaller the Mk III and MK IV plastic models are than recent models, I have my doubts that the arms would fit on them

I'm kind of curious how they're going to handle the pricing for this system overall. It looks like they're releasing the tactical squads in boxes of 20, with a significant upsell in the form of the weapons packs.

So are the 20 MK VI Marines with bolters going to be $110 (2X the current cost of the MKIII 10 packs?) Or do they charge $75 for the 20 marines knowing that a huge percentage will also be purchased with the weapon upgrade packs, putting the average cost slightly higher than the current primaris 10 man squad?

And what do we assume the price of the weapons upgrade kits will be? I'm guessing ~$50 as the Necromunda upgrades, which are relatively small cost $27.

And what of the earlier marks of armor? Is there a discount to the old marks of armor in the repack? Or is the new going rate for a tac squad now >$100?

In any case, I think the presence of upgrade weapon packs diminishes the value of the box set a bit, but overall still seems reasonable.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Haven't seen them, are they arms+guns, or only guns? If it's the second, fat chance.

They're arms and guns.

Well, then if it's the full arm, they really should fit...

Just saw the article... and it seems it's just weapon + hands, which would make them MkVI exclusive. Or, at least, harder to kitbash than otherwise.

Given how much smaller the Mk III and MK IV plastic models are than recent models, I have my doubts that the arms would fit on them

I’m wondering if perhaps we’ll find the Heavy Weapons in particular come with optional parts for the grips. One with both hands attached, the other with the left hand removed?

Purely speculation of course. I’ll see if I can find a sprue pic.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Haven't seen them, are they arms+guns, or only guns? If it's the second, fat chance.

They're arms and guns.

Well, then if it's the full arm, they really should fit...

Just saw the article... and it seems it's just weapon + hands, which would make them MkVI exclusive. Or, at least, harder to kitbash than otherwise.

Given how much smaller the Mk III and MK IV plastic models are than recent models, I have my doubts that the arms would fit on them

They’re not massively smaller than the MkVI, which are smaller than CSM.

I am well buzzed by these reveals! Only thing they left out was a Mk VI Assault Squad.

I especially love how they kept the Rogue Trader era special & Heavy weapons looking like they always did - Missile Launcher, Plasma & Lascannon being shoulder mounted and everything!

The only thing which reminds me I haven't died and gone to heaven is the fact that despite all this glorious RT era Space Marine goodness, there will only be 5 discreet poses for the Mk VI. Converting those 5 into more variety will be the holy grail

 ImAGeek wrote:


They’re not massively smaller than the MkVI, which are smaller than CSM.

And with this, all enthusiasm has deserted me. I’d convinced myself the new beakies were the same size as CSM. I’m done with mini-marines. I think I’m done with marines altogether.

Looking at that pic, it seems the proportions between the mo iv and mk vi are the same except for longer thighs on the latter.

That pic is indeed very distressing. I knew they'd be smaller than Primaris but I didn't realise they are that much smaller.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
Haven't seen them, are they arms+guns, or only guns? If it's the second, fat chance.

They're arms and guns.

Well, then if it's the full arm, they really should fit...

Just saw the article... and it seems it's just weapon + hands, which would make them MkVI exclusive. Or, at least, harder to kitbash than otherwise.

Given how much smaller the Mk III and MK IV plastic models are than recent models, I have my doubts that the arms would fit on them

They’re not massively smaller than the MkVI, which are smaller than CSM.

Yeah, they don't look massively bigger, just better proportioned:




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 tauist wrote:
The only thing which reminds me I haven't died and gone to heaven is the fact that despite all this glorious RT era Space Marine goodness, there will only be 5 discreet poses for the Mk VI. Converting those 5 into more variety will be the holy grail

Yeah, that is a real shame, unfortunately :(

Looks to me like they’re about the same size/proportions as the Space Marine Heroes Series 1 models. I think that pic’s a bit misleading as the MkVI guy’s leaning towards the camera less than the marines either side.

I count the same number of pixels from the bottom of the foot to the top of the gorget for both the Mk VI model and the CSM model.

I'm no expert on beakies but that price is crazy good (by GW standards), isn't it? At probably 195-199 GBP we're looking at 250-260 EUR, and I thought 300 was being optimisitc.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm no expert on beakies but that price is crazy good (by GW standards), isn't it? At probably 195-199 GBP we're looking at 250-260 EUR, and I thought 300 was being optimisitc.

Well, as said above, the Newcromunda Ash Wastes box costs $299, and that's 225 euros, so...

I'm no expert on beakies, is the reason missile launcher box has fewer guns than any other box because it's the only one that has to include arms, and it maybe has arms for all the pre-heresy marks? All other guns seem to fit on the bolter arms at the wrists.

I was bracing for £240 or $399 myself, so $299 is much improved. Frees up some hobby budget for deimos rhinos and weapon packs. And for the contents, it feels like Indomitus levels of value.

To properly put the size worry to rest:

https://twitter.com/Leaky_cheese/status/1522870974269566977
Exactly the same size as FW resin Marines which means the same size as GW plastic Marines.

 Gert wrote:
To properly put the size worry to rest:

Spoiler:

https://twitter.com/Leaky_cheese/status/1522870974269566977
Exactly the same size as FW resin Marines which means the same size as GW plastic Marines.

That's from the same batch as the pic I posted above, but without the plastic Mk IV marine that kinda devalues the assertion of them being "the same size" as plastic marines:



A bit taller, rather. Still, I don't expect that difference would be any problem at all.

Genuinely shocked that it will be 299 usd.

They really want me to actually buy this lol