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I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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Was looking for some coverage of the HH Open and found this video of the display cases.

   
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So many Mk6 in different Legion colours...
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

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The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...

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Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.


 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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RazorEdge wrote:
So many Mk6 in different Legion colours...

Well yeah, they were sent to a number of painters to do up in legion colors. Shame the Night Lords didn't make it, that's the legion I wanted to see in MkVI the most.
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...


Agreed. Bumping toughness would help a lot with damage inflation problems. If Ld can go to 11 now, why can't toughness go to 12 for Land Raider equivalents?
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...


Agreed. Bumping toughness would help a lot with damage inflation problems. If Ld can go to 11 now, why can't toughness go to 12 for Land Raider equivalents?

Uncapping values was definitely one of the better things that 8/9th did since it let them give more room to the statlines to breathe, but they never really do enough with it.
   
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 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...

I don't think the seminar programme has been announced yet.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...


Agreed. Bumping toughness would help a lot with damage inflation problems. If Ld can go to 11 now, why can't toughness go to 12 for Land Raider equivalents?


Because there are factions that simply just cannot deal with T12. Leadership is something you can build your own army to ignore anyway (ie, you the player have agency over your own leadership, though it sucks for armies that want to do leadership bombs). But for armies that cap out on S9 or so? They're just boned if someone drops a wall of T12 in front of them. And then defensive strats, relics and abilities come in (which, for example, the new chaos knights have a lot of). At that point the play experience plummets to 'extremely unfun' (to be nice).

Not sure why this is in the HH thread though...

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...


Agreed. Bumping toughness would help a lot with damage inflation problems. If Ld can go to 11 now, why can't toughness go to 12 for Land Raider equivalents?

Uncapping values was definitely one of the better things that 8/9th did since it let them give more room to the statlines to breathe, but they never really do enough with it.

They uncapped values only to keep Lascannons and Lances S8-9
   
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EviscerationPlague wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...


Agreed. Bumping toughness would help a lot with damage inflation problems. If Ld can go to 11 now, why can't toughness go to 12 for Land Raider equivalents?

Uncapping values was definitely one of the better things that 8/9th did since it let them give more room to the statlines to breathe, but they never really do enough with it.

They uncapped values only to keep Lascannons and Lances S8-9

That's part of it for sure. They could have moved the cap to 12 across the board and shifted the range between things more but they seemed to be afraid to rock the boat too much.

On a different topic, have some Marines in every legion color from the HH Open:
Spoiler:



Really liking that NL option, though he needs more corpse parts and some legion iconography.

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Ok good. WE still have blue.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ok good. WE still have blue.

Yup.
Spoiler:

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Love that model, but not with a Beakie head. It's a little bit 5th Element-y for my tastes.

Are we sure the Spartan has a Mk.II head, as that could work here.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2022/05/09 02:15:11


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It's just struck me how RTB01-ish that while kit is.

We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark

The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.

The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox

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 ClockworkZion wrote:
EviscerationPlague wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
 Azreal13 wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
I checked with Leakycheese on Twitter (he who is quoted as Beakycheese earlier in the thread) - apparently there wasn't anything about a plastic Sicaran at the event.


I'd chuckle if it was there showing off some elements from the new vehicle upgrade sprue...

But I seriously think that it'll come, when's the next reveal event? They're at UKGE aren't they?

Aye, UKGE was mentioned on today's pre-order article - though, as of looking at the UKGE events page earlier, there's no seminar this time, which is disappointing. I was looking forwards to asking why they appears to be scared of T9 and above in 40k if there was one...


Agreed. Bumping toughness would help a lot with damage inflation problems. If Ld can go to 11 now, why can't toughness go to 12 for Land Raider equivalents?

Uncapping values was definitely one of the better things that 8/9th did since it let them give more room to the statlines to breathe, but they never really do enough with it.

They uncapped values only to keep Lascannons and Lances S8-9

That's part of it for sure. They could have moved the cap to 12 across the board and shifted the range between things more but they seemed to be afraid to rock the boat too much.

On a different topic, have some Marines in every legion color from the HH Open:
Spoiler:



Really liking that NL option, though he needs more corpse parts and some legion iconography.

I had to figure out why the Crimson Fist doesn't have red hands.
The next few moments were spent working out which black-armored loyalist is which. I still really feel like GW did the loyalists a disservice when they selected the 'first founding' chapter out a hat. Raven Guard weren't even named until 2nd edition (they were presumably one of the unnamed 'destroyed' chapters of the Isstvaan massacre. Of course, Salamanders could have been stuck with their original ugly yellow with wavy black stripes.

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The original Salamander paint scheme was to paint them like an actual Salamander.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
The original Salamander paint scheme was to paint them like an actual Salamander.


Something my crappy 10yo painting skills could not achieve...seems time to rectify that
   
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Did anyone at the open hear anything regarding the game types? IE is there a combat patrol, incursion, etc. missions in the game, and is Zone Mortalis in the book?

My guess is no, but missed a lot over the weekend.

 
   
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 Sabotage! wrote:
Did anyone at the open hear anything regarding the game types? IE is there a combat patrol, incursion, etc. missions in the game, and is Zone Mortalis in the book?

My guess is no, but missed a lot over the weekend.

If it's come up I haven't found anything on that or on the possibility of seasons. Then again I haven't found a lot of coverage among the channels I know that went so it might be getting back and get content together.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
Did anyone at the open hear anything regarding the game types? IE is there a combat patrol, incursion, etc. missions in the game, and is Zone Mortalis in the book?

My guess is no, but missed a lot over the weekend.

If it's come up I haven't found anything on that or on the possibility of seasons. Then again I haven't found a lot of coverage among the channels I know that went so it might be getting back and get content together.


Thanks for the update! I’ll have to keep my eyes peeled and hopefully we will learn a bit more about game types soon!

 
   
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I'm looking forward to some ZM games.
   
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There will be more rulewise stuffe for sure.

I also doubt that we get only that one big "Starter Set" with a Hardcover Rulebook for around 200 BP.

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What's the status of Horus Heresy as a game? Is this likely to have new rules? Are we expecting it to align with regular 40k?

The box tempts me, but I haven't even played 40k since, I dunno, probably 6th edition. Never bothered learning the rules again after the overhaul.

Basically, are people expecting this to be a good game, or just a good excuse to get a pile of beakies?
   
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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
What's the status of Horus Heresy as a game? Is this likely to have new rules? Are we expecting it to align with regular 40k?

The box tempts me, but I haven't even played 40k since, I dunno, probably 6th edition. Never bothered learning the rules again after the overhaul.

Basically, are people expecting this to be a good game, or just a good excuse to get a pile of beakies?


Its a grest game. Rules are built from 7th (so very close to 6th, with some changes. Thr new rules are very similar but incorporate things like move values and keywords, and stats arent capped at 10. There is also the reaction mechanic that lets you make limited actions with a unit in your opponants turn (capped at 1 per phase but there are ways to gain 2 or 3a phase with warlord trsits etc)

Currently I much prefer playing heresy than 40k. Its alot more indepth, easier to learn and read the rules, and puts narrative first over competitive play
   
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I've (hopefully) made the best and most all-encompassing scale comparison of the new Mk6 Marines yet:



Higher-res pictures here: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/05/scale-comparison-mkvi-horus-heresy-space-marine-legionaries/

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 stahly wrote:
I've (hopefully) made the best and most all-encompassing scale comparison of the new Mk6 Marines yet:

Higher-res pictures here: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/05/scale-comparison-mkvi-horus-heresy-space-marine-legionaries/


Thank you, this is an excellent size comparison! We can see that the beakie legs are quire a bit taller and chunkier than on the older models, and that they're basically the same size than the CSM. They also don't look quite so puny next to the Primaris like some other pics make it to seem.


I already asked this, but I'll ask again: does anyone have any pics or videos that would show the sprue or assembly instructions? I'd really like to see how the models go together.

   
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 Crimson wrote:
 stahly wrote:
I've (hopefully) made the best and most all-encompassing scale comparison of the new Mk6 Marines yet:

Higher-res pictures here: https://taleofpainters.com/2022/05/scale-comparison-mkvi-horus-heresy-space-marine-legionaries/


Thank you, this is an excellent size comparison! We can see that the beakie legs are quire a bit taller and chunkier than on the older models, and that they're basically the same size than the CSM. They also don't look quite so puny next to the Primaris like some other pics make it to seem.


I already asked this, but I'll ask again: does anyone have any pics or videos that would show the sprue or assembly instructions? I'd really like to see how the models go together.


Unfortunately, there haven't been sprues on display at the event, so we'll have to wait for a little longer. I noticed though that the shoulder pads with the rivets are two-part, split in the middle, to avoid any undercuts like with the Mk6 shoulder pads from the current 40k Tactical Squad kit.

 
   
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