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Is there photos of something floating around?

Edit - nevermind, I found the twitch stream; https://m.twitch.tv/brianbartoky/clip/AnnoyingAlluringSnakeANELE-lFGc2aUKodb1ys2o

Multi leaks suggest to me GW may well be using a new printer with english speaking staff who know about the games

(as opposed to china were print shop staff are far less likely to be in a game social media group/forum etc)

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
Ooh I like him. I wonder if they'll go for a complementary trinity type thing with the brothers. You've got Haldir for range, Rumil for defence and Orophin for attack.


Now to me, that model looks plastic. So part of me wonders (hopes) if we'll see a plastic triple kit for the three brothers.

Don't give me hope...

I could see it though.

Looks like your hope could have a little foundation after all Kan.
A new Rumil perhaps?

That's very cool to see. I wonder if guard are with him.
I was hoping they would do plastic Mirkwood Armourd Elves since they might be part of this book.. Doubtful, but it's one of the few units in crapcast.

Those are lovely models, armour looks great.

I wonder when they will clamp down on these leaks.

Well hot diggity dog. That certainly looks like Rumil. The helmet, shield and pose all match.


Now show us Haldir.

The shield looks different from the metal version, so it might be a new Rumil?!

How do you mean? It's got the same pattern on it. The only slight difference I can spot (I can't tell if the metal version has the square bit around the boss in the middle) is that the metal models shield is a bit more pinched at the top. Where as this new one is more rounded.

It looks more detailed than the metal version was all I meant.

I'm trying not to be excited dangit!

Ah ok I see. I don't have the model myself, so I'm relying on the pictures from the army list book and off the net. Funnily enough none of which show the shield face on...

I don't have one handy either, but from what I can tell the shield looks a bit smaller on the metal one?

Yeah, shields aren't exactly the same AND the old one has his mouth in a neutral, closed position rather than grimacing. New Rumil confirmed.

Edit: The more I look at the new one, the more I think it's in a different(but similar) pose with the sword arm more forward and the shield closer to the body.

Ah yes. The shield is somewhat different. The new one is a different shape, larger and has more detailed detailing.

 Snrub wrote:
Well hot diggity dog. That certainly looks like Rumil. The helmet, shield and pose all match.
Now show us Haldir.

Haha, do we really need another Haldir? He must have the most sculpts of any elven hero apart from old lego-lass.

At first I was not interested in the book. But now the legendary legions are leaked:

 Fergie0044 wrote:

 Snrub wrote:
Well hot diggity dog. That certainly looks like Rumil. The helmet, shield and pose all match.
Now show us Haldir.

Haha, do we really need another Haldir? He must have the most sculpts of any elven hero apart from old lego-lass.

Yeah...and only a few are actually available.

He had the sculpt in Heroes of Helm's Deep, then the same profile but with sword out that's bundled with Celeborn now. And then the Marchwarden, which combines two different "encounters" sculpts into one SKU.

If you give me a shot for a new armoured Haldir with bow out? I'll take it!

Ooof. While I'd long given up hope of the Black Dragons being a plastic kit, I had at least hoped for a sensible price given that you are probably going to want 10, maybe 20 of them.

I'm not sure what I was thinking.

£46 for 6? Thanks but, er, no thanks.

Black Dragons have better proportions, but you can pay £27.50 for 20 and paint the cloth with more black, or pay £46 for 6. I know what most people are going to be doing.

The Emperor(tm) being £82.50 looks about what I expected. It's a nice model but I'm not sure it's THAT nice.

Could be worth it if you were happy to do the conversion work to turn some pikes into hand-and-a-half axes for alternate Captains and press mold the shields to put on the plastic Easterlings, but yeah, you've got to really want them at that price.

At least with the Knights of Dol Amroth, they're the only official option for that unit that doesn't involve scrounging for the old metals. These fellas are more expensive than them, on top of being completely optional

Oooh some tasty prices for the goblins. Both the Black shields and prowlers work out to 8.50 a model. Compared to the 2nd hand market, those are fantastic prices. The Khazad guard, slightly less so at $12.50 a pop, but still less then what you can generally get them on ebay.
Not sure how I fell about paying $43 a pop for the warg marauders. But shockingly still less then what I see them for on ebay.

By-the-by, it's nice to see that dragon in resin. I remember many moons ago, a bloke at the local GW had one when they were metal and always said it was an absolute bastard to work with. Had to pin the gak out of the wings.

 Siygess wrote:
Ooof. While I'd long given up hope of the Black Dragons being a plastic kit, I had at least hoped for a sensible price given that you are probably going to want 10, maybe 20 of them.

I'm not sure what I was thinking.

£46 for 6? Thanks but, er, no thanks.

Yikes, that was more than I hoped. Will probably get one set eventually to complete my collection, but its a low priority purchase.

The actual DotN book is more than I expected too. Is that typical for LotR books?

 Snrub wrote:
Oooh some tasty prices for the goblins. Both the Black shields and prowlers work out to 8.50 a model. Compared to the 2nd hand market, those are fantastic prices. The Khazad guard, slightly less so at $12.50 a pop, but still less then what you can generally get them on ebay.
Not sure how I fell about paying $43 a pop for the warg marauders. But shockingly still less then what I see them for on ebay.

By-the-by, it's nice to see that dragon in resin. I remember many moons ago, a bloke at the local GW had one when they were metal and always said it was an absolute bastard to work with. Had to pin the gak out of the wings.

Yeah I am really happy with the Moria prices especially the prowlers in 6s instead of 4s. Snatched 2x Prowlers, 2x Marauders, 1x Blackshields and the shamans. Durburz and groblog I already have and I am not really sold on the dragon. I guess i can find a nicer dragon STL somewhere. I do like the cave drake tho

I made sure to get a preorder in for the new book, plus the dice and the mounted commanders. The price on those mounted guys was a lot more reasonable than I had originally figured. Now at some point I need to get the Dragon Emperor, but that's gonna have to wait, as I'm not made out of money!

I was pleasantly surprised that the Moria Blackshields and Prowlers are being released in metal. I have now preordered them and wouldn’t have otherwise.

callidusx3 wrote:
I was pleasantly surprised that the Moria Blackshields and Prowlers are being released in metal. I have now preordered them and wouldn’t have otherwise.

Indeed. GW could make a lot of money if they turned the Failcast models into metal as well (not just reverting models that were metal at release), but I guess it's technically not possible or at least not as easy as it was to turn metal into Failcast.

 Fergie0044 wrote:

 Siygess wrote:
Ooof. While I'd long given up hope of the Black Dragons being a plastic kit, I had at least hoped for a sensible price given that you are probably going to want 10, maybe 20 of them.

I'm not sure what I was thinking.

£46 for 6? Thanks but, er, no thanks.

Yikes, that was more than I hoped. Will probably get one set eventually to complete my collection, but its a low priority purchase.

The actual DotN book is more than I expected too. Is that typical for LotR books?

All of the supplements are now £32.50 except for Scouring of the Shire (£24). Granted, that price includes the recent price hike.

Defence of the North™ is available for pre-order! Whilst you decide whether to defend or assault the northern provinces, check out these new Elven heroes featured in the book – they’re heading to tabletops near you soon!

I know these are 99% a FW two pack, but there is something about them that seems plastic to me. Can't quite say why though.

Aw man, I was hoping for Haldir too.

Those are really nice though. I wonder if this is the start of more Lorien plastics?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I know these are 99% a FW two pack, but there is something about them that seems plastic to me. Can't quite say why though.

As I said before, there is *something* about them that just doesn't strike me as being resin. Some detail on them that I can't pin down is just screaming plastic at me.
Though, to be fair they do match the trend of FW double packs and as of yet, GW hasn't released a duel plastic character kit. (unless you count Gandalf/Pippin and Eowyn/Merry.)

 Snrub wrote:
Aw man, I was hoping for Haldir too.

Those are really nice though. I wonder if this is the start of more Lorien plastics?

Or just updated Lorien plastics?