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I'll be out to get bleach and needles today.
I'm sure it's safe. Presidents are never unsafe lunatics

 ValentineGames wrote:
I'll be out to get bleach and needles today.
I'm sure it's safe. Presidents are never unsafe lunatics

Don't forget the UV light to stick up your arse

Crispy78 wrote:

 ValentineGames wrote:
I'll be out to get bleach and needles today.
I'm sure it's safe. Presidents are never unsafe lunatics

Don't forget the UV light to stick up your arse

At that point i need bleach for my eyes and brain.....

Not Online!!! wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:

 ValentineGames wrote:
I'll be out to get bleach and needles today.
I'm sure it's safe. Presidents are never unsafe lunatics

Don't forget the UV light to stick up your arse

At that point i need bleach for my eyes and brain.....

Remove the images AND the corona virus. It’s a win/win!

Public Health England has selected Trevor Phillips to investigate racial disparity in Coronavirus deaths.

A guy whose entire career is essentially excusing British racism and who is currently being investigated for Islamophobia. Talk about reading the room.

 Nevelon wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:

 ValentineGames wrote:
I'll be out to get bleach and needles today.
I'm sure it's safe. Presidents are never unsafe lunatics

Don't forget the UV light to stick up your arse

At that point i need bleach for my eyes and brain.....

Remove the images AND the corona virus. It’s a win/win!

I will be honest, i laughed way harder then i should've...


Which level on the facepalm skala have we reached, are we allready at the most imfamous tripple through stage allready or just one?


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nfe wrote:
Public Health England has selected Trevor Phillips to investigate racial disparity in Coronavirus deaths.

A guy whose entire career is essentially excusing British racism and who is currently being investigated for Islamophobia. Talk about reading the room.

best case scenario he finds contradictory evidence for his nonsense?

Allbeit i admit i don't know him however i also have the dubious privilege of living were a certain AFD politican went to live half the time that sits in the german parliament.

That's assuming he does honest investigation...

Hence best case scenario.

nfe wrote:
Public Health England has selected Trevor Phillips to investigate racial disparity in Coronavirus deaths.

A guy whose entire career is essentially excusing British racism and who is currently being investigated for Islamophobia. Talk about reading the room.

I don't know what they are expecting to find anyway... Its a virus, it doesn't discriminate on hosts. Being more or less affected is going to be down to socio cultural and economic factors.

Awaits.. 'coronavirus shown to be racist' headlines.

Treatment might vary though. Doctors are human beings like everyone else.

The use of bleach as some sort of miracle cure has long been pushed/entertained by some of the more.....

..................esoteric ...............

elements of the world.

Pushed as a cure for everything from cancer to autism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/autism/autism-and-everyday-life/fake-and-harmful-treatments/

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/clinic-advises-bleach-to-cure-autism-7pkc7pxbl



There's been some truly amazing takes on things of late crawling out from the intellectual abyss

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

nfe wrote:
Public Health England has selected Trevor Phillips to investigate racial disparity in Coronavirus deaths.

A guy whose entire career is essentially excusing British racism and who is currently being investigated for Islamophobia. Talk about reading the room.

I don't know what they are expecting to find anyway... Its a virus, it doesn't discriminate on hosts. Being more or less affected is going to be down to socio cultural and economic factors.

Awaits.. 'coronavirus shown to be racist' headlines.

Indeed, most likely it will be the same factors that result in poorer health overall for BAME UK citizens in lots of other studies. That being, more of them are in lower income groups. Poorer people having on average worse health due to diet, living conditions, lifestyle ect is not exactly a ground breaking revelation.

POC being disproportionately poorer will definitely be a factor. There may also be cultural reasons that play in to susceptibility to infection, pursuing medical intervention, and so on, that are not exclusively economic and are worth investigating.

Aside from anything else, the majority of doctors that have died are POC (I think, half are Muslim, not sure how many of the rest are POC but it's not zero). Writing off the demographic imbalance simply as 'they're poorer, no more study required' is negligent.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

nfe wrote:
Public Health England has selected Trevor Phillips to investigate racial disparity in Coronavirus deaths.

A guy whose entire career is essentially excusing British racism and who is currently being investigated for Islamophobia. Talk about reading the room.

I don't know what they are expecting to find anyway... Its a virus, it doesn't discriminate on hosts. Being more or less affected is going to be down to socio cultural and economic factors.

Awaits.. 'coronavirus shown to be racist' headlines.

Indeed, most likely it will be the same factors that result in poorer health overall for BAME UK citizens in lots of other studies. That being, more of them are in lower income groups. Poorer people having on average worse health due to diet, living conditions, lifestyle ect is not exactly a ground breaking revelation.

But no doubt will be put in format that suits their white supremacy views.

Priti Patel has just used the daily briefing to boast of the policing successes during lockdown. Heavy stress placed on the fact that 'burglary, car crime, and shoplifting are all down on the same period last year'.

So that's where we are.

Forget toilet roll the run on bleach is going to be huge, my toilet is going to be dirty for years.

nfe wrote:
Writing off the demographic imbalance simply as 'they're poorer, no more study required' is negligent.

Not sure about writing it off. But I do think its a symptom of bigger problems regarding racial and economic inequality that are fairly well known already. Another study or inquiry into the specifics of the COVID-19 effects on BAME citizens just seems like "jobs for the boys". Especially given who's doing it.

nfe wrote:
Priti Patel has just used the daily briefing to boast of the policing successes during lockdown. Heavy stress placed on the fact that 'burglary, car crime, and shoplifting are all down on the same period last year'.

So that's where we are.

Ugh At least she's not just inventing new numbers like last time.

I'd argue the opposite: this is a slam-dunk for scientific study. The research puzzle and literature review will write themselves.

nfe wrote:
POC being disproportionately poorer will definitely be a factor. There may also be cultural reasons that play in to susceptibility to infection, pursuing medical intervention, and so on, that are not exclusively economic and are worth investigating.

Aside from anything else, the majority of doctors that have died are POC (I think, half are Muslim, not sure how many of the rest are POC but it's not zero). Writing off the demographic imbalance simply as 'they're poorer, no more study required' is negligent.

as you say Given that decent number of senior BME doctors are among the dead it looks like the is something other than (current) poverty is involved (although it could be effects feeding through from their parents lives or their own early years)

Edit: I guess not many may be aware that what happened in your grandparents and parents lives can program their genes of their offspring to respond in different ways than they otherwise would, a phenomenon called epigenetics https://www.livescience.com/21902-diet-epigenetics-grandchildren.html

so given that one of the major reasons to move countries is having a hard time it could be that something set up in their parents or even grandparents DNA are what is causing the excess deaths when covid 19 enters the picture


and Nature has a worrying article on another consequence of the Chloroquine hype

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01165-3

difficulty in recruiting patients for other drug trials even if they may be more effective, and even if you can recruit they may have been taking/continue to take chloroquine meaning interepreting the results of the trial are a lot harder meaning your risk missing stuff that would help..... after all while a 'cure' would be excellent, a drug that improved survival even 10% would be a real boon now and those are the sort of effects having chloroquine mixed in will hide

Another factor could be that people of European descent tend to be more resistant to disease, due to the black plague(s) and general Dark Ages sanitation doing a significant degree of natural selection.

nfe wrote:
Priti Patel has just used the daily briefing to boast of the policing successes during lockdown. Heavy stress placed on the fact that 'burglary, car crime, and shoplifting are all down on the same period last year'.

So that's where we are.

That's not really a policing success.. I imagine a burglar or car criminals job is much harder when everyone is at home all the time, and the only place people are leaving their cars is supermarket car parks.

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

nfe wrote:
POC being disproportionately poorer will definitely be a factor. There may also be cultural reasons that play in to susceptibility to infection, pursuing medical intervention, and so on, that are not exclusively economic and are worth investigating.

Aside from anything else, the majority of doctors that have died are POC (I think, half are Muslim, not sure how many of the rest are POC but it's not zero). Writing off the demographic imbalance simply as 'they're poorer, no more study required' is negligent.

as you say Given that decent number of senior BME doctors are among the dead it looks like the is something other than (current) poverty is involved (although it could be effects feeding through from their parents lives or their own early years)

Edit: I guess not many may be aware that what happened in your grandparents and parents lives can program their genes of their offspring to respond in different ways than they otherwise would, a phenomenon called epigenetics https://www.livescience.com/21902-diet-epigenetics-grandchildren.html

Sure, but whilst there are rags to riches stories, the majority of people who move to the UK and whose kids become doctors are not poor to start with.

queen_annes_revenge wrote:

nfe wrote:
Priti Patel has just used the daily briefing to boast of the policing successes during lockdown. Heavy stress placed on the fact that 'burglary, car crime, and shoplifting are all down on the same period last year'.

So that's where we are.

That's not really a policing success.. I imagine a burglar or car criminals job is much harder when everyone is at home all the time, and the only place people are leaving their cars is supermarket car parks.

Err yes. That's my point.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

nfe wrote:
Priti Patel has just used the daily briefing to boast of the policing successes during lockdown. Heavy stress placed on the fact that 'burglary, car crime, and shoplifting are all down on the same period last year'.

So that's where we are.

That's not really a policing success.. I imagine a burglar or car criminals job is much harder when everyone is at home all the time, and the only place people are leaving their cars is supermarket car parks.

So let me get this straight, crimes down is a success in Times were going outside is basically a nono ......

Basically. It's a good thing too, because the police here are too busy taping up park benches, finger wagging at people buying wine, then gloating about said actions on social media to deal with actual crimes.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Basically. It's a good thing too, because the police here are too busy taping up park benches, finger wagging at people buying wine and then gloating about said actions on social media.

Huh maybee to do with the increased presence then.

Still that's hardly a success imo...

Nah its down because there are less targetd and less opportunity for crime. I believe online scams and telephone based fraud crimes are on the increase though.

In other news I'm getting anxious about the length of my hair. May need to order some clippers and attempt some sort of 1920s undercut. 5 weeks is longer than I've gone without a trim for over 10 years.

BIG domestic abuse numbers, too. There will also be some really bleak child abuse stats to come.

nfe wrote:
Priti Patel has just used the daily briefing to boast of the policing successes during lockdown. Heavy stress placed on the fact that 'burglary, car crime, and shoplifting are all down on the same period last year'.

So that's where we are.

or it could be shes taking a leaf out of johnsons book and using his dead cat strategy to distract from passing 20.000 hospital deaths today.

JWBS wrote:

 Vulcan wrote:
Okay, as of page 103 I see that the battle lines are set, neither side is budging, and there's no point in continuing to read this thread.

Peace, y'all. I'm out.

You're the God of Fire. But you can't deal with this? Ok. The rest of us are screwed then. Thanks for letting us know i suppose.

Less "I can't deal with this", more "I have other things to do with my time than watch a circular argument go 'round and 'round for another hundred pages or so'.

 queen_annes_revenge wrote:

nfe wrote:
Public Health England has selected Trevor Phillips to investigate racial disparity in Coronavirus deaths.

A guy whose entire career is essentially excusing British racism and who is currently being investigated for Islamophobia. Talk about reading the room.

I don't know what they are expecting to find anyway... Its a virus, it doesn't discriminate on hosts. Being more or less affected is going to be down to socio cultural and economic factors.

Awaits.. 'coronavirus shown to be racist' headlines.

Given that the virus affects the respiratory system I think they’ll find that a key contributing factor in the racial disparity is smoking. I know in the US smoking is more common in non white ethnic groups than in whites and there is also a disparity of incidence rates depending on income. Culture plays a role too. For instance smoking is much more commonplace in Middle East countries.