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 Overread wrote:
Don't forget for the vast majority of casual fun players they can get into Necromunda with 1 box of models. You only need one rulebook in the club; only one or two sets of terrain and a pack of models and you can get a game going.

I wasn't aware there was a 'one rulebook' for Necromunda with all the gangs, rules, gear and etc.

Voss wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Don't forget for the vast majority of casual fun players they can get into Necromunda with 1 box of models. You only need one rulebook in the club; only one or two sets of terrain and a pack of models and you can get a game going.

I wasn't aware there was a 'one rulebook' for Necromunda with all the gangs, rules, gear and etc.

If your playing the Community Edition... than yes, you only need the one book unless somebody wants to play the Outlanders stuff.

While the new minis are great, my group can't be arsed trying to deal with the glut of books and out of prints cards.

Well, one set of rulebooks. And that's how we ran Necromunda for years, one set of books and terrain in the club, all you need is a gang. Cheap entry game.

 Irbis wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I managed to snipe a screenshot of the new jump pack. Looks pretty good and could work as a generic jump pack for 40k infantry, assuming any such units existed.

Funnily enough, they did exist - Elysian drop infantry. You could use this box to make (far cheaper) equivalent drop troopers from another regiment, but alas, FW ""competence"" happened in meantime.

Elysians could perhaps be kitbashed from these jump packs + palanite enforcer helmets combined with a suitable torso. However, as elysians might get legended soon I don't know if it would be worthwile. Besides, its gonna be some time until bitz retailers will have these new orlock bits anyways.

I always loved the "bullpup" style elysian lasguns. I think I still have a few of them in my bitz box which I bought for necromunda, but have stopped playing necromunda since then..

 Graphite wrote:
Well, one set of rulebooks. And that's how we ran Necromunda for years, one set of books and terrain in the club, all you need is a gang. Cheap entry game.

Yeah, I'm tapped out of this edition's book treadmill. Kind of the very opposite I want this game for.

 tauist wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I managed to snipe a screenshot of the new jump pack. Looks pretty good and could work as a generic jump pack for 40k infantry, assuming any such units existed.

Funnily enough, they did exist - Elysian drop infantry. You could use this box to make (far cheaper) equivalent drop troopers from another regiment, but alas, FW ""competence"" happened in meantime.

Elysians could perhaps be kitbashed from these jump packs + palanite enforcer helmets combined with a suitable torso. However, as elysians might get legended soon I don't know if it would be worthwile. Besides, its gonna be some time until bitz retailers will have these new orlock bits anyways.

I always loved the "bullpup" style elysian lasguns. I think I still have a few of them in my bitz box which I bought for necromunda, but have stopped playing necromunda since then..

3rd party or 3d printing seems the way to go on that. I am barking mad sometimes but I'd never try to make an army out of half a box of orlocks.

I really do hate people sometimes - the Zone Mortalis Gang Tactics Cards are already on eBay for £75 :-(

So don't buy them, let the fether choke on however many he has.

beast_gts wrote:
I really do hate people sometimes - the Zone Mortalis Gang Tactics Cards are already on eBay for £75 :-(

Is that the store from Germany who has pretty much everything overpriced on the UK Ebay. I just tend to ignore it honestly. From what I can tell of stocks the number who have insane prices are only holding a tiny amount of stock.

 Overread wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
I really do hate people sometimes - the Zone Mortalis Gang Tactics Cards are already on eBay for £75 :-(

Is that the store from Germany who has pretty much everything overpriced on the UK Ebay. I just tend to ignore it honestly. From what I can tell of stocks the number who have insane prices are only holding a tiny amount of stock.

No, UK based - and looking at their other items they just buy up the cards & dice packs to sell on later with a massive mark-up.

I guess the GW store limit on 1 per customer really doesn't work.

I don't see any reason to get the official GW cards. They are ridden with errors, no artwork, no interesting design and clumsy size. You can get 100% all cards elsewhere, updated (if any FAQs applies), obvious errors are corrected, nice common magic card size and if you lose or damage some, you can reprint. I had almost all cards (missed the early access limited one) original, but never used them, and are now trying to sell them off (have sold some already).

Not to mention they're also completely unbalanced.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I guess the GW store limit on 1 per customer really doesn't work.

Don't think they care really as long as they shift stock, those who missed out can take a running jump...

Not sure what I think of the new Orlocks - love the weaponsmasters, though they look a bit simple, but more bodies is always more good, and it seems like the hammer guy has power fists, so there's some cool conversion potential there - I always wanted to give a GSC neophyte leader one of the orlock power fists.
The rest of the box...
...not sure. My Orlocks are pretty heavily converted, but at the same time, when they were released, I liked them the least of any of the gangs. Those wreckers seem fun, and the arms look interchangable with the rest of the line, but seeing what is and isn't legal might be a bit slippery. Here's to hoping the sprues aren't cut super wierd.
As ever with Necromunda, it seems like the artwork on the books is just that little bit cooler than the minis themselves - though hopefully that just means that FW might put out that cool miner guy and the important-looking dude in the naval(?) jacket.

I really like the Ogryns, but damn. Over $100 for 6 out here? Over $50 for two?
I don't want them that bad, GW.

Yeah, you can play like we used to with the list, and specific gang info, per book.

As long as your not trying to add in the special characters, and specialized gangs', your fine. Even then, if you have the rules, you have them for references..

I don't know how GW is thinking this game is going for them, but they aren't doing themselves any favors with lack of product and reference stuff. I do love those Ogryn, I'll end up using bits from fantasy to fill in the empty spaces and use the bits from the Ogryn box for enhancement.


The new 40K scenery is a great addition to the Necromunda stuff, You can add it in even with the homemade cardstock scenery for added flavor.

 posermcbogus wrote:
Not sure what I think of the new Orlocks - love the weaponsmasters, though they look a bit simple, but more bodies is always more good, and it seems like the hammer guy has power fists, so there's some cool conversion potential there - I always wanted to give a GSC neophyte leader one of the orlock power fists.
The rest of the box...

That's a servo claw, the exact same one in the Orlock gang box, if you want the bit just get it from that box instead, it's a full fist with nothing attached, this new one is stuck holding a hammer.

In the case of the Orlock Arm Masters model it's not even a weapon, it's a full Servo Harness suit.

Yeah, but this one is right handed - and doing a cheeky drilling-out of the remnants of the hammer, and maybe a touch of re-sculpting shouldn't be too much of a tall order methinks.

And very similar to a crude version of a power fist. It could certainly double as one, if you want to experiment with different weapons!

Next Warcom article is up

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/08/25/house-of-blades-hired-guns-and-hangers-on/

What... what's going on with the Chymist's feet in that picture. How do you bend your legs like that? THAT ISN'T HOW KNEES WORK.

It is not exactly a way you would normally stand, but it isn’t impossible to bend your foot that way.


I’m hoping that Forge World will release models alongside this for the Water Guild, as these are featured in House of Blades. Kind of sad that the Ulanti Courtiers won’t have a model for the foreseeable future. Same with House Greim.

 Segersgia wrote:
It is not exactly a way you would normally stand, but it isn’t impossible to bend your foot that way.


I’m hoping that Forge World will release models alongside this for the Water Guild, as these are featured in House of Blades. Kind of sad that the Ulanti Courtiers won’t have a model for the foreseeable future. Same with House Greim.

Only if you're a mermaid.

Seriously. Look a the kneepad.

The downside to that article is that it doesn't sound like there's any models coming for any of those options since the article seems to launch right into suggesting conversions. This might mean models were on the cards and were shelved or have been delayed (indefinitely or for a very long time)

I suspect they're more likely to come out with models for the mermaid, sorry, Chymist and Shivver as hangers on - I think it'll be a long time before we get anything noble house like. But there are a lot of "posh" miniatures that could be adapted for uphivers. Anything in the Lahmian vampire range, for a start.

 Graphite wrote:

Only if you're a mermaid.

Seriously. Look a the kneepad.

Normally I'd be the one annoyed by these kinds of poses, but the kneepad plays a bit of a false depth to it.

Look at how the kneepad is set up. The larger 'front' part goes almost to the kneepit.

They make a good suggestion of the Rogue Trader models - sadly the Rogue Trader models and the upper class looking ones from Blackstone fortress are rather expensive to get for just one model in the set for a conversion.

Nice idea if you've got them sort of thing; but not really what most hobbyists will aim for sadly.

 Overread wrote:
The downside to that article is that it doesn't sound like there's any models coming for any of those options since the article seems to launch right into suggesting conversions. This might mean models were on the cards and were shelved or have been delayed (indefinitely or for a very long time)

Something I'm starting to wonder about is if they had possibly been planning a new edition's core book and the shift to these full-fledged books was being done as it was so they could make sure everything fit.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Graphite wrote:

Only if you're a mermaid.

Seriously. Look a the kneepad.

Spoiler:

Normally I'd be the one annoyed by these kinds of poses, but the kneepad plays a bit of a false depth to it.

Look at how the kneepad is set up. The larger 'front' part goes almost to the kneepit.

No, I really can't see how it makes sense. We can see her left thigh, with test tubes, and that's in front until we get to the knee - and still at the front there. Because behind the knee pad is a strap around the back of the knee.

Below this, her right leg is in front - with either an incredibly chunky calf muscle, or the back of her left leg. Which is now behind.

Mermaid.


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Annotated.

It looks like she was standing straight and then they added crossed legs? Or something?

It's a shame, because the rest of the picture is really good.

I did a double take at first. Thought she had one leg.

Er no.

Like I said, the kneepad is huge. The part that you're highlighting as a separate leg? Isn't. The green should be over the foot you have in red.

The kneepad is more like plate armor than it is just modern tactical gear.

I'll have to agree to disagree on that one, because for that pose to work I think you'd need to have a ball joint in your knee.

Not saying that the considerable messing with Escher DNA that's gone on puts this beyond the realms of possibility....