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Sarouan wrote:

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
Van Saar now look much more like Jes’ original sketches for them.

You mean that ?
...
Unless you're talking about different artwork ? Do you have a link so that I can see what you are refering to ?

Sarcasm works better when you are actually correct...

Do you know what a sketch is? Do you know who Jes Goodwin is? Judging from the above pictures I’m guessing no.

There are no easily accessible pictures of Jes’ sketches for Van Saar. I don’t have the free time to take a picture and upload it, but for now imagine art that averages between the old art you posted and the new art. Not as chunky as the new ‘hard’ suits, but not as ‘soft’ as the old minis.

He's right though. If you can't upload a pic you can still flip the book open and see that the sketches are the same as the models that were sculpted (I imagine Goodwin sculpted them but even if he didn't, whoever did copied the sketches well).

This discussion of what changed the most from the originals in look and theme is pretty interesting as it seems, as mentioned above, that with much implied vs said in the original that what was paradigmatic for each game has a lot to do with the individual. To me the delaque fit what I took to be implied about them and I didn't find the current figures jarring. Same for the van saar. I find the look changes with Orlock standout more for me (they always looked a bit west side story or something to me back in the day). The chem fixation for esher feels a bit forced for me too. The rest seem pretty straight forward. That being said I can see how one would have a different opinion, I just don't think that opinion is perhaps as self evident as expressed.

Love the look of most of the modern gangs. Except the Delaque -they're absurdly tall and spindly. I genuinely thought they were a GSC or Drukhari unit at first glance. I'm not sure why they went for that look.

I can't wait to see Skavies and Ratskins, or Ash Wasters if they're released. Some ragged looking post apocalyptic models will be great for conversions.

Delaque design is leaning into the “possibly not actually human” angle of their background.

It’s hinted at in the existing stuff, and I for one can’t wait for their House of volume - though that’s not until July at the very earliest.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/10/sunday-preview-plague-bearers-and-ring-wearers/

Escher cats are from forgeworld?

Yes, confirmed that they are Forge World.

IMO, there was a bit of confusion in the article since they separated them from the FW stuff at large.

Underhive Informant – The latest Orlock gossip, straight from the domes - WarCom

They all look very chubby

Bugger, guess that means they'll be sold separately like the Escher champions. Perhaps the two regular gangers bundled together, but either way it'll be pricier than I hoped. :-/

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
They all look very chubby

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why not remove the unnecessary misogyny at the same time?

Think less chub and more muscle - natural muscle as opposed to whip-cord type lithe muscle that you see on say escher models.

Abaddon303 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
They all look very chubby

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I LIKE that they look like well fed, athletically built women, it adds a great contrast to the slinky, pin up builds that Escher have.

Can't wait for them to be forty bucks each.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Can't wait for them to be forty bucks each.

Fifty.

There is a Brexit on you know.

Gonna be patient until I can make a more consistent order. No point to pay shipping for just one blister of two 40k cats. The orlock girls are looking good, it's just their weapon options are boring.

I expect something like 35-40 € for the two cats. The girls, I guess they'll be 24 € per miniature or something.

beast_gts wrote:
Underhive Informant – The latest Orlock gossip, straight from the domes - WarCom

Spoiler:

They look very cool - like the melted face on the last one

Clockpunk wrote:
Bugger, guess that means they'll be sold separately like the Escher champions. Perhaps the two regular gangers bundled together, but either way it'll be pricier than I hoped. :-/

Yup, when two of these were first previewed, I wondered if they would be basic Gangers rather than Champions and hopefully priced as such too. Still not impossible that the first two won't be priced as characters, but it's not looking too promising...
Nice figures overall, not too special, but then they aren't meant to be (maybe the Champion could use a little something extra, though the bionics are reasonably visible from a distance at least).

They do look nice and would go nicely in a future poxwalker infestation scenario, but yeah, biggest worry will be the price.

warl0rdb0b wrote:

Abaddon303 wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
They all look very chubby

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I LIKE that they look like well fed, athletically built women, it adds a great contrast to the slinky, pin up builds that Escher have.

They've got a bit of a Gina Carano look to them. I dare you to go and call her chubby to her face...

At least it's a resin stub gun.

tl;dr, ugly models.
But I've been having the same feeling about all second wave of the new Necromunda models. First ones looked way better.
When I looked at their faces at first, I honestly thought those were very young looking men. But then I looked at the other parts of the models..
First one even looks like they just took the body, slapped a female-looking head on top and called it a day.

I quite like them, actually. I just don't like them quite as much as what they ask for.

I really like them, but I'm not going to pay single-model Forge World prices for what are basic cannon fodder gangers.

 Albertorius wrote:
I quite like them, actually. I just don't like them quite as much as what they ask for.

That's where I am at too. I really like them, but they do not feel very "Champion"-y...and them being from FW? It means they are unlikely to be things I'll go after--which is unfortunate because I like the ability to add some females into the otherwise male Orlock gang.

There's some cool designs in Underhive Wars that really feel like they would have been better suited for these kinds of 'reinforcement' packs.

 Mr Morden wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
Underhive Informant – The latest Orlock gossip, straight from the domes - WarCom

Spoiler:

They look very cool - like the melted face on the last one

Orlocks were always the bland faction from all the Houses and those models don't change a thing about that fact.

 Kanluwen wrote:

That's where I am at too. I really like them, but they do not feel very "Champion"-y...and them being from FW?

Most of champions in Necromunda are just defined by their choice of weapons, anyway. So the heavy bolter was pretty much saying it all already.

See how "different" the champions made from the plastic kits are from the regular gangers.

As for them being FW...oh well, I made my peace with it a long time ago. I mean, it was doubtful they'll release a plastic kit for just basic female orlocks.

I just have a hope the two female gunners will be sold together for a price similar to the other "bundle duos" blisters. If not...well, better luck next time.

I also had a question on those Orlock girls..

Do they come with additional Heavy Weapons Options?

 Grot 6 wrote:
I also had a question on those Orlock girls..

Do they come with additional Heavy Weapons Options?

Unlikely, if they follow the same pattern for Escher champions. But I guess we'll know once they'll put them on pre-order on the FW website.

Wow... these are ugly models. Easy pass for me. And none of them are reminiscent of Gina Carano, who even though she has gained some weight, has an absolutely beautiful face.