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New article and some nice scratch built terrain

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/03/30/venture-into-the-chem-choked-wilderness-if-you-can-survive-the-murderous-ash-waste-nomads/

Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

So Cargo-8 Ridgehauler is the copyrightable landtrain name then

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

"Like a Bantha!!!"

(/obligatory meme)

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So Cargo-8 Ridgehauler is the copyrightable landtrain name then

We also get a name for the ticks!

One of their most terrifying aspects is their connection to the wasteland Helamites. These deadly insect predators, designated Endomorphs by Imperial scriveners, are seemingly as old as the wastes themselves. Born of the toxic deserts and chem-rich soil, Helamites live in great rubbish-infused mounds, yet the Ash Waste Nomads have somehow managed to tame them – and now ride them into battle.

So who wants to register Helamite.com and Endomorph.com to start the first ever Ash Wastes giant insect fan site?

Cargo 8s aren't really a surprise for a name. They've been mentioned in Gaunt's Ghosts and Eisenhorn for I don't know how long.

It might not look it, but Endomorph is some of the most outrageously bad faux latin they've ever done, particulalry because they clearly meant it to be Entomorph (insect-form) but Endomorph is an actual word meaning the "fatty" human body type and spellchecker did its job when nobody was looking.

There is hope this only happened at the WarCom stage and it's Ento in the product.

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

We have art going back to 2017...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It might not look it, but Endomorph is some of the most outrageously bad faux latin they've ever done, particulalry because they clearly meant it to be Entomorph (insect-form) but Endomorph is an actual word meaning the "fatty" human body type and spellchecker did its job when nobody was looking.

There is hope this only happened at the WarCom stage and it's Ento in the product.

Are we getting Palanite and Palatine all over again? I swear that was just a typo they decided to run with and pass off as deliberate. Mind you, that's arguably the reason you can use more than one re-roll a turn in Blood Bowl these days.

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

Funny how I keep seeing Boba fett attributed to a setting far older than even star wars itself. Im not talking about necromunda, but the concept of a desert wasteland. it's not an indictment against those who havent been exposed to more varied media than what is literally shoved in front of their faces to consume, but it is definitely indicative of it.

For an over 100 year old example, should you motivate yourself enough to look, is the John Carter of Mars series, (which was also produced by the House of Mouse in your preferred media form) though the words that Edgar Rice Burroughs chooses to use may seem archaic by todays standards, making it for a medium weight read that may require a dictionary on hand for younger readers.

But that's merely one example I urge you, kind reader, to explore. It's a big universe out there, and its a lot bigger than the House of Mouse would have you believe.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It might not look it, but Endomorph is some of the most outrageously bad faux latin they've ever done, particulalry because they clearly meant it to be Entomorph (insect-form) but Endomorph is an actual word meaning the "fatty" human body type and spellchecker did its job when nobody was looking.

There is hope this only happened at the WarCom stage and it's Ento in the product.

Its based on Greek essentially meaning "internal shape", although I think you are probably correct that it should be "insect shape". Pretty common linguistic shift though, can see that happening over 40,000 years!

The endomorph word you refer to is actually just as much bullgak and is from a pseudoscience concept that took the endo- prefix from an almost entirely unrelated term in embryology (endoderm).

 Wiz Warrior wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

Funny how I keep seeing Boba fett attributed to a setting far older than even star wars itself. Im not talking about necromunda, but the concept of a desert wasteland.

It's not just the desert wasteland setting, Orlocks don't really have any SW vibe for example. But the cloths and the ramshackle rifles of the faction opposing orlocks do resemble the tusken quite a lot. And their leader also has some sort of stick as main weapon .

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

Nope. This will be worth checking out!

As mentioned, we've seen designs going back to 2017 for the Ash Waste Nomads.

There's really only so much you can do for "desert nomads that scavenge things in a hostile environment".

Frankly? I see less of the Tusken Raiders and more of Fear the Walking Dead's most recent season and the scavengers introduced in them...but that's because the idea seems to be less "epic scifi" and more "realistic radiated wasteland".

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

We have art going back to 2017...

Of hover Vespas? I’m confused.

grahamdbailey wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

Nope. This will be worth checking out!

And on that sick burn, you forgot the mic drop, my friend.


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 Blackie wrote:

 Wiz Warrior wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

Funny how I keep seeing Boba fett attributed to a setting far older than even star wars itself. Im not talking about necromunda, but the concept of a desert wasteland.

It's not just the desert wasteland setting, Orlocks don't really have any SW vibe for example. But the cloths and the ramshackle rifles of the faction opposing orlocks do resemble the tusken quite a lot. And their leader also has some sort of stick as main weapon .

Query: have you touched grass yet this year? There is a library not too far from where you live. I invite you to smell the vanillin locked between the leaves of their books.

 Wiz Warrior wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

Funny how I keep seeing Boba fett attributed to a setting far older than even star wars itself. Im not talking about necromunda, but the concept of a desert wasteland. it's not an indictment against those who havent been exposed to more varied media than what is literally shoved in front of their faces to consume, but it is definitely indicative of it.

For an over 100 year old example, should you motivate yourself enough to look, is the John Carter of Mars series, (which was also produced by the House of Mouse in your preferred media form) though the words that Edgar Rice Burroughs chooses to use may seem archaic by todays standards, making it for a medium weight read that may require a dictionary on hand for younger readers.

But that's merely one example I urge you, kind reader, to explore. It's a big universe out there, and its a lot bigger than the House of Mouse would have you believe.

I enjoyed the John Carter movie but I am, relatively, easily pleased.

What I did enjoy more were some of the reviews that accused the John Csrter storyline of being derivative!

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

Guess what the Van Saars will be riding this season?

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Guess what the Van Saars will be riding this season?

The proverbial Fat Chicks™ ® brand of Vespas ?

For some excellent - and relevant - John Carter reading, do check out this recent expose that Doug Drexler shared on Facebook:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/untold-story-disney-307-million-155530105.html

The origins of the Ash Waste Nomads are mired in myth and legend. Ancient tales recount how, when the Iron Lords were cast down by the Imperium, the last true citizens of the Araneus Continuity fled from their oppressors into the wastes of their now-blighted world. Some say the nomads are descended from these first people, tormented and changed by the wasteland into the creatures that stalk the wilds today, a hatred of the Imperium and its proxy House Helmawr still fresh in their hearts.

So... I know this is in-universe speculation, but has this come up before? In previous Necromunda lore books and novels?
Because 'secret heirs to the lords of the men of iron' isn't a thread I want to see pulled. Just... let them be people who don't live in the hives. No secret destinies and mysterious tech crap.

Voss wrote:

The origins of the Ash Waste Nomads are mired in myth and legend. Ancient tales recount how, when the Iron Lords were cast down by the Imperium, the last true citizens of the Araneus Continuity fled from their oppressors into the wastes of their now-blighted world. Some say the nomads are descended from these first people, tormented and changed by the wasteland into the creatures that stalk the wilds today, a hatred of the Imperium and its proxy House Helmawr still fresh in their hearts.

So... I know this is in-universe speculation, but has this come up before? In previous Necromunda lore books and novels?
Because 'secret heirs to the lords of the men of iron' isn't a thread I want to see pulled. Just... let them be people who don't live in the hives. No secret destinies and mysterious tech crap.

The Ratskins were also rumoured to be descended from pre-Imperial cultures. It's probably easier to believe that the nomads grew into superb survivalists over generations growing up as the world's surface changed rather than being a group of hivers cast out into the hostile wastes who adapted overnight rather than just die in a few days.

 Kanluwen wrote:
As mentioned, we've seen designs going back to 2017 for the Ash Waste Nomads.

There's really only so much you can do for "desert nomads that scavenge things in a hostile environment".

Frankly? I see less of the Tusken Raiders and more of Fear the Walking Dead's most recent season and the scavengers introduced in them...but that's because the idea seems to be less "epic scifi" and more "realistic radiated wasteland".

The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla laughs at GW's idea of "realistic" wasteland dwellers.

Modern pseudo-scientific rubbish.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

Guess what the Van Saars will be riding this season?

I hope someone is already beavering away on the STL for that.

I want to watch the internets burn.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

Guess what the Van Saars will be riding this season?

I hope someone is already beavering away on the STL for that.

I want to watch the internets burn.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

"LET THE INTERNET BURN" but said like Horus in the new trailer

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

Guess what the Van Saars will be riding this season?

Whatever it is, it ain’t Vespas

Voss wrote:

The origins of the Ash Waste Nomads are mired in myth and legend. Ancient tales recount how, when the Iron Lords were cast down by the Imperium, the last true citizens of the Araneus Continuity fled from their oppressors into the wastes of their now-blighted world. Some say the nomads are descended from these first people, tormented and changed by the wasteland into the creatures that stalk the wilds today, a hatred of the Imperium and its proxy House Helmawr still fresh in their hearts.

So... I know this is in-universe speculation, but has this come up before? In previous Necromunda lore books and novels?
Because 'secret heirs to the lords of the men of iron' isn't a thread I want to see pulled. Just... let them be people who don't live in the hives. No secret destinies and mysterious tech crap.

The Iron Lords are not Men of Iron, it's the name of the former pre-Imperial human rulers of the planet Necromunda when it was called Araneus Prime.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Lords_(Araneus_Continuity)

 Flinty wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Flinty wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Book of Boba Fett miniatures game?

I really hope not because those stupid hover Vespas made me so angry I stopped watching the show.

Guess what the Van Saars will be riding this season?

Whatever it is, it ain’t Vespas

Spoiler:

Neat! HERESY, but neat!

Does this mean I can finally use my VS plasma cannon instead of just spamming plasma guns? Never saw a use for it in the old missions but ash wastes seem like a perfect use for it along with the lascannon guy from FW that I haven't gotten around to building yet.