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Furthermore, not everyone can do minis but most can build terrain from daily objects and cheap materials.
Making these even less necessary.

So ash wastes box set was 2 small hubs and one platform? £142.5 in terrain right there.
GW your drunk.

Well the Thatos Pattern Extended Hab Module is actually confirmed at $110 which is also an exchange rate price rise as £65 used to be $95 so my $95/$100 based on current pricing was out.

Confirmed pricing for GBP, Euro and USD

Thatos Pattern Extended Hab Module £65 €85 $110
Thatos Pattern Hab Module £47.50 €62.50 $80
Thatos Pattern Platform and Walkways £47.50 €62.50 $80

Terrain is crazy money outside of the boxsets.

Those are some wild prices. I guess they must be really big? Still about 2x as expensive as I would consider a tempting price.

I'll be interested to see where these terrain sprues are manufactured,

the big price change (not the exchange rate one) might be the difference between Made in China terrain & Made in the UK if GW has got to the point that coordinating supply is just too inconvenient

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'll be interested to see where these terrain sprues are manufactured,

the big price change (not the exchange rate one) might be the difference between Made in China terrain & Made in the UK if GW has got to the point that coordinating supply is just too inconvenient

Dude, the injection molding is the same no matter the country. Labour is off a minimal cost in any highly automated process. It comes down to land value and taxes versus transportation cost from the otherwise of the world (where your sub-contractor has to pay for land value and taxes).

The difference in price is at best perceived "value" of being produced in the UK. A more likely US price increase is because it might cost more to ship items from the UK to the US versus China to the US, but I'm sceptical about that. I mean if the big market is the US, then why are kits made in the...

The company where I work do our own injection molding, but the tools are made in China, because the big cost for us is the toolmaking.

The only made in China GW parts I have (that I'm aware of) are the old promethium pipes, and they were definitely made in a different plastic. Heavier and more brittle, if I recall correctly.

Oh and maybe that old Dreadstone Blight kit with the wall sections that weren't on a sprue.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'll be interested to see where these terrain sprues are manufactured

The "Necromunda: Ash Wastes" box says "Made in the UK" (whereas the "Battlezone: Fronteris – Nachmund" box says "Designed in the UK, made in China").

GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

Dread Master wrote:
GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

Literally every company does this, except pretty much all others are cheapest in the US for some reason.

Dread Master wrote:
GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

I suspect it has something to do with the country's overhead costs (warehouse, stores, etc) being folded into the cost for only that region. Not sure what UK is looking like, but everything is getting mighty expensive around here.

KillerAngel wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

I suspect it has something to do with the country's overhead costs (warehouse, stores, etc) being folded into the cost for only that region. Not sure what UK is looking like, but everything is getting mighty expensive around here.

Recent news claims the average family with 2 kids is seeing an increase in their assorted costs of living of around £400 a month, compared to last year. We're screwed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61501778

Yeah. It’s gotten really ugly really quickly.

They want to charge AUD$165 for a dinky little hab building?

Yeah right...

Well they sent a bunch of 30k starter boxes to several youtube influencers. Those $300 USD boxes they gave away have to be paid for somehow

beast_gts wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'll be interested to see where these terrain sprues are manufactured

The "Necromunda: Ash Wastes" box says "Made in the UK" (whereas the "Battlezone: Fronteris – Nachmund" box says "Designed in the UK, made in China").

if its a sprue its usual made in the UK. if its a piece of terrain / really thick plastic item its usual made in China

i read a report on copy , copying , knock offs or ip produces.
european companies are having generic items ie: huge figures ,hills , terrain or buildings made in china but the items most associated with their brand are made back in Europe.
to keep control of the brand.

prices are rising
plastic is sadly part of the petro-chemical industry

I was going to buy a whole new table worth of ash wastes terrain from GW, but at these prices I hesitate. Then, combined with my new large format 3D printer and the plentiful knock off terrain files that will be compatible means that I will just wait.

Eventually, once work gets less busy, I'll just make a compatible set of elevated wasteland buildings. The game could use big elevated platforms to have more vertical play anyway.

The new gangs though, those I'll buy.

 Vertrucio wrote:
I was going to buy a whole new table worth of ash wastes terrain from GW, but at these prices I hesitate. Then, combined with my new large format 3D printer and the plentiful knock off terrain files that will be compatible means that I will just wait.

Eventually, once work gets less busy, I'll just make a compatible set of elevated wasteland buildings. The game could use big elevated platforms to have more vertical play anyway.

The new gangs though, those I'll buy.

There's also this https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitaltaxidermy/spool-tower-2-the-re-spoolening

beast_gts wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'll be interested to see where these terrain sprues are manufactured

The "Necromunda: Ash Wastes" box says "Made in the UK" (whereas the "Battlezone: Fronteris – Nachmund" box says "Designed in the UK, made in China").

I remember checking my Zone Mortalis boxes a while back for this very thing. I’m on holiday so can’t check, but if memory serves the Gang Stronghold was just made in U.K.?

KillerAngel wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

I suspect it has something to do with the country's overhead costs (warehouse, stores, etc) being folded into the cost for only that region. Not sure what UK is looking like, but everything is getting mighty expensive around here.

If the big market is the US then the kits should be made in the US, not the UK nor China.

As a Canadian all my GW comes from the US warehouse, next day air…for “free”.

 Chairman Aeon wrote:
If the big market is the US then the kits should be made in the US, not the UK nor China.

Trade sales (Six months to 28 November 2021): UK & Continental Europe £44.8 m, North America £47.8 m
Retail sales (Six months to 28 November 2021): UK £11.8 m, Continental Europe £9.5 m, North America £16.2 m

 rockgod2304 wrote:
prices are rising
plastic is sadly part of the petro-chemical industry

And still makes a fraction of a fraction of the actual cost of a kit, so...

Cost of materials tripled from 4 cents to 12 cents, so naturally the price of a kit goes up by 20€

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

KillerAngel wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

I suspect it has something to do with the country's overhead costs (warehouse, stores, etc) being folded into the cost for only that region. Not sure what UK is looking like, but everything is getting mighty expensive around here.

If the big market is the US then the kits should be made in the US, not the UK nor China.

As a Canadian all my GW comes from the US warehouse, next day air…for “free”.

I believe GW tried and hit problems with production in the USA. I think the core issue was that there was no skill base that they could easily access with experience of using their machines. So any breakdown, problem or error resulted in them having to move key staff from the UK to the USA or equipment back the other way for repairs/fixing/problem solving. I think there were other issues as well, but the end result was that GW couldn't make it work better than just having a single production hub and then shipping out what is needed.

And in fairness a vast majority of firms work the same way; single or limited geography production which is them shipped out worldwide. It generally works really well too, its just the Corona period which has unsettled that whole system to the extreme. Heck GW recently expanded their warehousing and production facilities in the UK to clearly allow for bigger overseas shipments to smooth out the supply of product. Which never really got to happen because Corona rolled in right after GW was setup.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I remember checking my Zone Mortalis boxes a while back for this very thing. I’m on holiday so can’t check, but if memory serves the Gang Stronghold was just made in U.K.?

My Gang Stronghold box says "Made in the UK", and the market is "Designed in the UK, made in China".

 Chairman Aeon wrote:

KillerAngel wrote:

Dread Master wrote:
GW’s pricing strategy has become absurd. Charging 110 USD for what should be 80at the exchange rate is just something I’m not willing to do put up with anymore. Why they think it’s reasonable to penalize and price gouge certain regions is beyond me.

I suspect it has something to do with the country's overhead costs (warehouse, stores, etc) being folded into the cost for only that region. Not sure what UK is looking like, but everything is getting mighty expensive around here.

If the big market is the US then the kits should be made in the US, not the UK nor China.

As a Canadian all my GW comes from the US warehouse, next day air…for “free”.

It's not about the US market being "bigger" just potentially higher overhead costs, which needs to get rolled into the cost of each product.

And I'm only guessing. Canadian pays a premium over UK prices as well btw.

Some build ideas from this guy https://www.instagram.com/p/Cd7-_nCtU5l/

Something is happening to Gw terrain because they are purging a lot of the old kits.. and while I do like the Hab bunker making a 3x3 board is insanely expensive and I thought the zone mortalis 3x3 board was bad… with 4 boards at 6x4 and 1 zone mortalis 3x3. I think I’m done starting new expensive terrain projects.

I think the best use of ash waste terrain is integrating it with sector mechanicus stuff unfortunately my sector mechanicus terrain is part of my frozen tundra, wall of martyrs, Aquila strongpoint, firestorm redoubt, plasma obliterator, gun emplacement, void shield generator, and tectonic fragdrill board. And a hab bunker wouldn’t really fit the theme. Egh maybe.. this thread does give me some ideas.

If I had to guess what's happening is 3D printers are going Brrr.

I would guess that GW terrain sales are dropping so their response is to charge more to the punters who still buy it. (Guilty as charged)

Kind of similar to how prices of print magazines and newspapers are rising much faster than inflation.

Yes, that clearly is the reason.

Has literally nothing to do with China's manufacturing being wildly unreliable at the best of times.

KillerAngel wrote:

And I'm only guessing. Canadian pays a premium over UK prices as well btw.

I will get no sympathy from H.B.M.C., but Canadian prices seem to include the extra cost of shipping from a US location rather than a Canadian one like in the now distant past. The "exchange" rates seem more "what the market will bear".

Also, anyone note the cost of FDM printers has gone up significantly...like more than inflation and more than resin printers have. Terrain is just getting more expensive it seems.