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If he has over 9 wounds I hope he reverse-degrades (get's stronger as he takes damage).
I'd love to see that in 40K. They lightly did it with Skarbrand, but in 40K he's a pale imitation of the absolutely hilarious murder-machine he becomes near-death in AoS.
AoS just has a more fun system when it comes to big murder machines in general. Wounds spilling over is a huge part of that, it just feels like Sauron in LotR swatting away men & elves like nothing. Not overkilling one dude 4 times over
An Actual Englishman wrote: If he has over 9 wounds I hope he reverse-degrades (get's stronger as he takes damage).
Would be fun but maybe not especially gazhkull's personality? He doesn't strike me as a rager. More like cold and calculating (for an ork).
An Actual Englishman wrote: This is starting to feel like a real drag now, the news has been sooo sloowwwww this week. People are starting to vent their frustration on the FB page too, every post regarding the Sisters release has various "this isn't Saga of the Beast comments all over them.
That? A long drag? Compared to Sisters who STILL are waiting for some of their release? Lol people are funny.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
An Actual Englishman wrote: If he has over 9 wounds I hope he reverse-degrades (get's stronger as he takes damage).
Would be fun but maybe not especially gazhkull's personality? He doesn't strike me as a rager. More like cold and calculating (for an ork).
All Orks are pretty ragey when it comes to *not winning a fight*.
An Actual Englishman wrote: This is starting to feel like a real drag now, the news has been sooo sloowwwww this week. People are starting to vent their frustration on the FB page too, every post regarding the Sisters release has various "this isn't Saga of the Beast comments all over them.
That? A long drag? Compared to Sisters who STILL are waiting for some of their release? Lol people are funny.
I mean compared to other PAs, the Sisters thing is a different beast (pun intended).
I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
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Nah Gazhkull seems like a pretty good sport to me.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
An Actual Englishman wrote: If he has over 9 wounds I hope he reverse-degrades (get's stronger as he takes damage).
Would be fun but maybe not especially gazhkull's personality? He doesn't strike me as a rager. More like cold and calculating (for an ork).
All Orks are pretty ragey when it comes to *not winning a fight*.
Orks never lose a fight. They either die or can come back and 'ave annuver go.
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Nah Gazhkull seems like a pretty good sport to me.
Lol? He's a regular old tea sipping gentleman huh? To be fair he is......after he's beat you.
You just can't win a fight against ork.
-If orks win, orks loves it and will fight again
-If orks lose, they will only remark it being a good fight and will fight again
-If there is a draw, orks will fight again.
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I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
PiñaColada wrote: AoS just has a more fun system when it comes to big murder machines in general. Wounds spilling over is a huge part of that, it just feels like Sauron in LotR swatting away men & elves like nothing. Not overkilling one dude 4 times over
I prefer that wounds don't spill over because thats makes a difference between anty tank weapons and anti horde weapons.
But then 20 orks charge my Adeptus Custodes Achillus Dreadnought with his kickass spear and I can only kill 4 orks per turn of combat and it feels like... anti climatic. I would prefer if more weapons had the option to do weaker attacks like knights with the : You can make Attacks x 2/3/4 with this profile.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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Yeah. That could work. Is not like meele is that good and anti elite and anti horde meele weapons are in most cases redundant. The used anti-horde meele units have so many attacks that they can even kill elite units by saturation, or the anti-elite units have enough good quality attacks than then can even kill hordes good enough.
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Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote: Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
You could also cap it to certain weapons or toughness. So for dreads or those size, wounds spill over on T5 or below but not bigger because the weapon isn't that big. For a Knight's chainsaw it might be everything T7 or below to represent the size.
I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
Wait, like every other PA faction?
Erm, there are a ton of PA factions that got less.
tneva82 wrote: Well if orks aren't main focus of pame certain ork players are never happy
Riiiiiight. You got that, from what, exactly? Expecting a PA release like every other PA release?
I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
Wait, like every other PA faction?
Erm, there are a ton of PA factions that got less.
tneva82 wrote: Well if orks aren't main focus of pame certain ork players are never happy
Riiiiiight. You got that, from what, exactly? Expecting a PA release like every other PA release?
You just said Ork players are impatient because they are only getting half a PA book and a character, then backed that up by confirming that they're getting more than some other factions did. I'm lost. Are you trying to say that ork players should stop complaining on gw's Facebook and realise lifes not so bad?
I think Thrakka and Makari are awesome, I will buy him no matter what his datasheet says. Plastic Thrakka is one of those things which has kept getting made-up rumors since fifth edition, and he's finally here. Who cares if we have to wait a week or two? It's not like there are going to be a lot of large tournaments in the near future anyways.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
Well I certainly die a little inside every time I read the phrase "cross the Rubicon Primaris."
You joke, but it’s confirmed a part of the process that a Firstborn marine that becomes a Primaris marine dies on the operating table, as that is a part of the procedure. Getting marines like Lazarus or Ragnar that are dead, or essentially, beyond still barely alive status for dreads, just means you have part of the procedure done already.
If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed.
Well I certainly die a little inside every time I read the phrase "cross the Rubicon Primaris."
me too
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I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
Wait, like every other PA faction?
Erm, there are a ton of PA factions that got less.
tneva82 wrote: Well if orks aren't main focus of pame certain ork players are never happy
Riiiiiight. You got that, from what, exactly? Expecting a PA release like every other PA release?
You just said Ork players are impatient because they are only getting half a PA book and a character, then backed that up by confirming that they're getting more than some other factions did. I'm lost. Are you trying to say that ork players should stop complaining on gw's Facebook and realise lifes not so bad?
No, I didn't. I said that Ork players are impatient because this PA has dragged on the longest since Rising Phoenix.
Someone then suggested that the wait Ork players have in no way compares to the wait that Sister's players have had for their second wave.
To which I suggested that perhaps if the entire Ork line was getting revamped, Ork players would be more patient.
It's worth reading posts in context and not quoting them out of context, really helps with understanding.
We really don't know, so far, what orks are getting this PA other than Ghaz and Makari and lots of Wulf fanfiction.
We also don't know anything about Ghaz. First critical thing is if he is [Goff Clan] subfaction locked. Then he will not gel with nearly any competitive army list because he will require a separate Goff detachment. As written in the current codex he doesn't see much use because he is [Goff Clan] and he also doesn't work well with the Da Jump Evil Sunz/Supa Shokk Attack gun or buggy spam lists that are common. This dude essentially has no place and is of dubious value until we see his rules. Goffs detachments are almost not a part of competitive lists.
Delivery mechanisms are subpar. Footslogging goffs at 5" movement a turn? Battlewagons?
They haven't shown anything other than Makari's rules and "ooh, pretty model Ghaz" for people to get excited about and people have a low bar of expectation for Ork releases, especially after WAAAGH: Ghazghkull in 6th and a similar Space Wulfs vs Orks release in Red Waaagh, both of which were unused except for the Green Tide formation.
Oh, and the Orks lost in Red Waaagh. Just like in Black Reach, etc.
tl;dr Ork players have not [yet] seen anything to inspire confidence or get excited about other than a pretty model.
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I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
Wait, like every other PA faction?
Erm, there are a ton of PA factions that got less.
tneva82 wrote: Well if orks aren't main focus of pame certain ork players are never happy
Riiiiiight. You got that, from what, exactly? Expecting a PA release like every other PA release?
You just said Ork players are impatient because they are only getting half a PA book and a character, then backed that up by confirming that they're getting more than some other factions did. I'm lost. Are you trying to say that ork players should stop complaining on gw's Facebook and realise lifes not so bad?
No, I didn't. I said that Ork players are impatient because this PA has dragged on the longest since Rising Phoenix.
Someone then suggested that the wait Ork players have in no way compares to the wait that Sister's players have had for their second wave.
To which I suggested that perhaps if the entire Ork line was getting revamped, Ork players would be more patient.
It's worth reading posts in context and not quoting them out of context, really helps with understanding.
Right you are, this is the original quote about ork players being impatient:
An Actual Englishman wrote: This is starting to feel like a real drag now, the news has been sooo sloowwwww this week. People are starting to vent their frustration on the FB page too, every post regarding the Sisters release has various "this isn't Saga of the Beast comments all over them.
There's a great many reasons it might be slower given the state of the world, doesn't mean people need to be an ass about it though on FB.
Complaining over Facebook doesn't mean being as ass, Dudeface. Do you really believe that people should only deliver overwhelming praise if they're going to comment?
useally PA book hyping begins 2 weeks in advance. the first week consists of some vague fluffy stuff, with genuine info after pre-orders are announced.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
I suspect people would have more patience if Orks were getting a full faction update and release, instead of 2 modes they may or may not be able to use in their army and half a book.
Wait, like every other PA faction?
Erm, there are a ton of PA factions that got less.
tneva82 wrote: Well if orks aren't main focus of pame certain ork players are never happy
Riiiiiight. You got that, from what, exactly? Expecting a PA release like every other PA release?
You just said Ork players are impatient because they are only getting half a PA book and a character, then backed that up by confirming that they're getting more than some other factions did. I'm lost. Are you trying to say that ork players should stop complaining on gw's Facebook and realise lifes not so bad?
No, I didn't. I said that Ork players are impatient because this PA has dragged on the longest since Rising Phoenix.
Someone then suggested that the wait Ork players have in no way compares to the wait that Sister's players have had for their second wave.
To which I suggested that perhaps if the entire Ork line was getting revamped, Ork players would be more patient.
It's worth reading posts in context and not quoting them out of context, really helps with understanding.
Right you are, this is the original quote about ork players being impatient:
An Actual Englishman wrote: This is starting to feel like a real drag now, the news has been sooo sloowwwww this week. People are starting to vent their frustration on the FB page too, every post regarding the Sisters release has various "this isn't Saga of the Beast comments all over them.
There's a great many reasons it might be slower given the state of the world, doesn't mean people need to be an ass about it though on FB.
Appreciate you checking my post/comments again.
Yea I agree people don't need to be rude on FB. I doubt there are any delays due to Corona, everything for this PA would've been printed a long time ago.
TedNugent wrote: We really don't know, so far, what orks are getting this PA other than Ghaz and Makari and lots of Wulf fanfiction.
We also don't know anything about Ghaz. First critical thing is if he is [Goff Clan] subfaction locked. Then he will not gel with nearly any competitive army list because he will require a separate Goff detachment. As written in the current codex he doesn't see much use because he is [Goff Clan] and he also doesn't work well with the Da Jump Evil Sunz/Supa Shokk Attack gun or buggy spam lists that are common. This dude essentially has no place and is of dubious value until we see his rules. Goffs detachments are almost not a part of competitive lists.
Delivery mechanisms are subpar. Footslogging goffs at 5" movement a turn? Battlewagons?
They haven't shown anything other than Makari's rules and "ooh, pretty model Ghaz" for people to get excited about and people have a low bar of expectation for Ork releases, especially after WAAAGH: Ghazghkull in 6th and a similar Space Wulfs vs Orks release in Red Waaagh, both of which were unused except for the Green Tide formation.
Oh, and the Orks lost in Red Waaagh. Just like in Black Reach, etc.
tl;dr Ork players have not [yet] seen anything to inspire confidence or get excited about other than a pretty model.
TedNugent wrote: We really don't know, so far, what orks are getting this PA other than Ghaz and Makari and lots of Wulf fanfiction.
We also don't know anything about Ghaz. First critical thing is if he is [Goff Clan] subfaction locked. Then he will not gel with nearly any competitive army list because he will require a separate Goff detachment. As written in the current codex he doesn't see much use because he is [Goff Clan] and he also doesn't work well with the Da Jump Evil Sunz/Supa Shokk Attack gun or buggy spam lists that are common. This dude essentially has no place and is of dubious value until we see his rules. Goffs detachments are almost not a part of competitive lists.
Delivery mechanisms are subpar. Footslogging goffs at 5" movement a turn? Battlewagons?
They haven't shown anything other than Makari's rules and "ooh, pretty model Ghaz" for people to get excited about and people have a low bar of expectation for Ork releases, especially after WAAAGH: Ghazghkull in 6th and a similar Space Wulfs vs Orks release in Red Waaagh, both of which were unused except for the Green Tide formation.
Oh, and the Orks lost in Red Waaagh. Just like in Black Reach, etc.
tl;dr Ork players have not [yet] seen anything to inspire confidence or get excited about other than a pretty model.
Fang, son of Great Fang, the traitor we seek, The laws of the brethren say this: That only the king sees the crown of the gods, And he, the usurper, must die.
