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2024/02/18 13:14:32
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Second Story Man
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another reason why coloured plastic might not be a bad idea
though looking at Enforcers, base coat+dry brush would be enough to get the infantry going
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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2024/02/18 19:28:44
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Enforcers, Asterians and FF all mostly wear power amour, so that approach would go a long way I'd assume.
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2024/02/18 20:47:58
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Prospector with Steamdrill
New England/cyberspace
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Mantic did some bone colored skeletons back in the day and they were extremely easy to get a bit of shade on and get them on the table.
I really hope they can do colored plastic. It might be the difference between the game being played or not being played for me.
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2024/02/19 00:33:31
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Gomezaddams wrote:I don't really get the point of doing a daily reveal of existing products run through a filter and suggesting its something new when it isn't..
Its like when they original forge fathers and space orks were put on pre-order using sketches, and I ask if they were reusing there fantasy sculpts, and they said no...
Like why do they need to keep pulling daft stuff like this.
If I remember right their last kickstarter to have actual goals was for Vanguard. They'd paired down the base pledges to create a bunch of artificial stretch goals which were supposed to look like them 'adding value, but they'd cut the base back so much that people questioned why they were charging so much for a paltry handful of miniatures and a rulebook. The initial slump really hurt the campaign and they definitely lost pledgers over how stingy the initial offering was and how slowly any value was being added.
Since then they've not had stretch goals but instead had daily reveals, I guess so they still have something to show and talk about during the campaign. I'm with you though, since it's all time based there's very little point to it, it'd be better to just show it all at the start so everyone knows what they're pledging for.
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2024/02/19 02:45:14
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Central Valley, California
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I don't mind supporting Mantic with this despite it really being a labor of love and the pledges going towards securing another interesting army.
I just pledged. I like the clean, beer & pretzel rules and that the minis will not be hard to obtain. I also enjoy Mantic's approach to terrain and line of sight.
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~ Shrap
Rolling 1's for five decades.
AoS * Konflikt '47 * Conquest Last Argument of Kings * Team Yankee * Horus Heresy * The Old World * Warcrow |
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2024/02/19 07:30:52
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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It's also a fairly short campaign, 11 days left at time of writing. So not much further to kick the can down the road/hold people's interests.
I'm actually quite enjoying the daily reveals as I'm not a Warpath player and know next to nothing about the background and haven't seen a lot of the design concepts before.
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2024/02/19 10:22:43
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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mattl wrote:Mantic did some bone colored skeletons back in the day and they were extremely easy to get a bit of shade on and get them on the table.
I really hope they can do colored plastic. It might be the difference between the game being played or not being played for me.
Pretty sure coloured plastics is completely off the cards. Automatically Appended Next Post: Shrapnelsmile wrote:
I just pledged. I like the clean, beer & pretzel rules and that the minis will not be hard to obtain. I also enjoy Mantic's approach to terrain and line of sight.
Yeah smooth clean rulesets are always a draw and Mantic are very good for it. Automatically Appended Next Post: Pacific wrote:It's also a fairly short campaign, 11 days left at time of writing. So not much further to kick the can down the road/hold people's interests.
I'm actually quite enjoying the daily reveals as I'm not a Warpath player and know next to nothing about the background and haven't seen a lot of the design concepts before.
It’s definitely something that I think holds some people ack. Not having the draw of lore that 40K has.
On the campaign itself. I think the usual 48 push at the end is the only point we will see large movement (120-140k based on the start of the campaign and normal trends).
I do think we will hit more factions though.
I’m definitely gonna grab two core armies. Maybe nothing more. Maybe a third core instead of big amounts on just resin. Unsure yet..
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2024/02/19 12:53:00
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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I'm probably going to just get one or two factions for now, simply because it will be all I can paint for a while, and I'd like to support the FLGS if a few people start collecting it and playing later on.
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2024/02/19 20:07:21
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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A lot of the mini plague miniatures.. look even better tiny!
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2024/02/20 17:32:41
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Prospector with Steamdrill
New England/cyberspace
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2024/02/20 17:54:05
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Fixture of Dakka
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Veer Myn down to £175k
then GCPS £225k
Marauders £275k
Nameless £325k
Keeping the £50k stretches just lowering the starting point
Also retail prices
Sergeant (1 faction plus rules/tokens/dcie) £100 KS £59
Lieutenant (2 factions) £160 KS £89
Captain (4 factions) £280 KS £149
High Command £840 KS £475
KS prices are about 55% to 60% of retail depending on the pledge.
While they haven't priced out the add ons an extra plastic core would be about £60 MSRP, super heavies £25 and the terrain £50. Reinforcements would be £75 if packaged the same as the KS but they might not be
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2024/02/20 18:11:28
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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I am VERY hyped for Nameless but also not holding out too much hope, although maybe the rats, humies and orcs players will catapult us up there I also really appreciate using the KS site to do add-ons, makes it loads easier / more satisfying than doing math and adding on funds for the eventual pledge manager.
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2024/02/20 18:12:31
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Brigadier General
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Holy Crap, I've been waffling a bit the last few days as my club has had zero interest in buying-in, but if GPCS comes up I will be a shoe-in for sure. I'd have a hard time saying no to Marauder's and Forge Fathers as well.
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2024/02/20 18:20:26
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Foxy Wildborne
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Now that's more like it!
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2024/02/20 18:25:54
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Fixture of Dakka
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They also appear to have combined the STLs into one set for £45 so the super heavies are effectively free
STL Faction Pack
£45
Get both the reinforcement pack and super-heavy unit for a faction as STL files, allowing you to print as many as you need. Faction selection will be made in the Pledge Manager after the Campaign.
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2024/02/20 19:14:32
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Central Valley, California
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sorry for the obvious question but I'm going crazy trying to find the scale for this game. Did mantic go 10mm or 15mm?
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~ Shrap
Rolling 1's for five decades.
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2024/02/20 19:19:24
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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Shrapnelsmile wrote:sorry for the obvious question but I'm going crazy trying to find the scale for this game. Did mantic go 10mm or 15mm?
10mm. They say that the Enforcers are 12mm to the top of the head, so the GCPS should be 10mm.
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2024/02/20 19:33:59
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Second Story Man
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~ 10mm base to eye for humans
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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2024/02/20 20:06:37
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Brigadier General
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Shrapnelsmile wrote:sorry for the obvious question but I'm going crazy trying to find the scale for this game. Did mantic go 10mm or 15mm?
It's a very good question. As Mantic and others have said , it's a 10mm game, but they really should be more clear in the KS about it. Personally I think it's a bit shady to call it "epic scale" in the KS tagline, when a huge number of gamers will assume that means the 6-8mm scale of Game's Workshop's "Epic" family of games. 8 to 10mm might not sound like much, but it's a MASSIVE difference in scale when the miniatures are compared.
Mantic's statement at https://www.manticgames.com/news/epic-warpath-designing-the-miniatures-for-an-epic-scaled-wargame/ is
"...our Enforcer Operative models are about 12mm to the top of the head, so about 11m to the eye. A ‘normal’ human would be about 10mm to the eye. So while there is some variation, EPIC WARPATH can be treated as being 10-12mm scale for purposes of modelling and terrain."
Additionally , I assume most folks know this, but 10mm is 1/160 Scale, which is also "N Scale" for model railroading which opens up alot of options for structure kits. It also has lots of potential combinations with 1/144 (11mm) scale which can be useful as 1/144 scale is fairly common in plastic model kits.
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2024/02/20 20:33:35
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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The lack of Marauders makes me sad but is understandable that they don't have every army at launch.
Have their been any reasonable pictures of the Terrain they are selling? Can't really tell if some of the bunkers in the pics/vids are ones they worked up for the KS or if they are the sets being sold.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2024/02/20 20:35:31
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Second Story Man
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well, Warlord Games have an Epic Battle line with 15mm models, so the name is already used for anything between 6 and 15mm models
one reason why they are a little vague is that the final model size is not know yet because it can change a little bit with tooling Automatically Appended Next Post: Ahtman wrote:The lack of Marauders makes me sad but is understandable that they don't have every army at launch.
Have their been any reasonable pictures of the Terrain they are selling? Can't really tell if some of the bunkers in the pics/vids are ones they worked up for the KS or if they are the sets being sold.
Marauders are a stretch goal, so maybe
the bunkers we see are new ones and "tests" with new design and existing 10mm models, there should be a video coming the next days with more details about the terrain
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2024/02/20 20:50:24
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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kodos wrote:well, Warlord Games have an Epic Battle line with 15mm models, so the name is already used for anything between 6 and 15mm models
Technically they're 13.5mm.
At this point if a company says their models are "Epic" scale, I'm going to assume it to means "a proprietary scale that prevents you from using them easily with other manufacturers' ranges".
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2024/02/20 21:04:03
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Second Story Man
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not all of them, the ACW and Wasterloo are, the ECW are 15mm
and given the size difference we had before when a company called it "10mm" it is not really different to any model range outside of GW who don't even mention a scale any more and are not even compatible with their own ranges if people would take it serious
(somehow of another manufacturer is 2 mm off, it is a problem, if GW is more off for the models of the same faction from the same release, it is an advantage and representation of the fluff)
anything from previous 10mm ranges, 1/144 or N Scale will fit to a point even if it is slightly off
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Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise |
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2024/02/20 21:42:09
Subject: Re:Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Hauptmann
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Nice to see the army unlocks come down a bit (and the rest of them revealed). If they can get Marauders in, then I can probably drag another person from my regular gaming group in.
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2024/02/20 22:44:53
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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Ahtman wrote:The lack of Marauders makes me sad but is understandable that they don't have every army at launch.
Have their been any reasonable pictures of the Terrain they are selling? Can't really tell if some of the bunkers in the pics/vids are ones they worked up for the KS or if they are the sets being sold.
Most of the terrain is from troublemaker games, vanguard miniatures already sell the sets. Its the same sets as the 6mm stuff made by TMG for epic.
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2024/02/20 23:45:33
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Did I read this wrong...isnt it out in 2025?
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2024/02/21 00:07:11
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That's my understanding.
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The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. |
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2024/02/21 00:07:59
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Leader of the Sept
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Delivery target of March 2025.
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2024/02/21 01:45:29
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Smart to get money before Armored Clash drops
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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2024/02/21 04:08:46
Subject: Mantic Games - Warpath Universe N&R - Epic Warpath KS 14th February 2024 2PM GMT
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Last time I looked it was just Veer Myn listed. I didn't realize they had officially been added as a stretch goal.
Edit: And now I'm seeing the post slightly above mine that showed the updated stretch goals before I posted. /facepalm
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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