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 DaveC wrote:
That would be the first painted image of the Nameless and first image of the GCPS minis? The Lancers look a bit flat I know they are designed like that but they look a bit short.

Well, the infantry and small walkers look good. The lancers are comically small. Interesting since the footprint isn't bad and if they'd been made a bit taller, they really could have looked like proper 10mm tanks. Will be looking forward to seeing some close-up Higher-res pics of the GCPS infantry.

I assume 3d printable "true scale" tanks and vehicles will be common and popular once mantic releases the stls from the mmf campaign

true scale might be the wrong word here as the Lancer looks to be in scale with transports and infantry
Battle Tanks are rather small compared to other vehicles and not having a base is the issue on the pic (a reason why I prefer bases for vehicles, otherwise they will look too small compared to infantry, specially at small scale)

I agree, the extra couple of mm from the base makes a huge difference at this scale. It isn't my preference to base vehicles but looking at these photos, I think I will do that for this.

 kodos wrote:
true scale might be the wrong word here as the Lancer looks to be in scale with transports and infantry

I disagree. I actually had a chance to stand next to an M1 Abrams 2 weeks ago and it's bigger -especially taller- than that.

I don't want to belabor the point as I think we've already had confirmation from Mantic that the vehicles are deliberately underscale. I just think it's an opportunity missed in this case since if they'd made the vehicle a little taller (the mold a little deeper) they could have produced a vehicle that actually was properly scaled.

Billicus wrote:
I agree, the extra couple of mm from the base makes a huge difference at this scale. It isn't my preference to base vehicles but looking at these photos, I think I will do that for this.

This is a debate that has gone on for many years especially 6-15mm, about whether to base tanks. I normally don't bother as I'm lazy but think an army with all matching bases with the tanks and infantry lined up can look excellent. I might think of doing it for this game.

Do we know if the army boxes come with enough bases to put all the tanks on bases?

 Eilif wrote:

 kodos wrote:
true scale might be the wrong word here as the Lancer looks to be in scale with transports and infantry

I disagree. I actually had a chance to stand next to an M1 Abrams 2 weeks ago and it's bigger -especially taller- than that.

I don't want to belabor the point as I think we've already had confirmation from Mantic that the vehicles are deliberately underscale. I just think it's an opportunity missed in this case since if they'd made the vehicle a little taller (the mold a little deeper) they could have produced a vehicle that actually was properly scaled.

well, tanks follow different designs, the M1 is huge for a tank in general, specially compared to Russian or Asian designs
But compared to some APCs,

The Lancer is fine compared to the Mule, a little on the small side compared to the infantry but there is no wargame that uses tanks that are perfect in scale with infantry




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 mattl wrote:
Do we know if the army boxes come with enough bases to put all the tanks on bases?

the shops list 60 EWP bases and 20 25mm bases per core army box
So my guess would that there are enough bases

Very curious to see these new plastic bases. We’ve not had new round bases from Mantic since Warpath first came out.

 kodos wrote:

 Eilif wrote:


I disagree. I actually had a chance to stand next to an M1 Abrams 2 weeks ago and it's bigger -especially taller- than that.

I don't want to belabor the point as I think we've already had confirmation from Mantic that the vehicles are deliberately underscale. I just think it's an opportunity missed in this case since if they'd made the vehicle a little taller (the mold a little deeper) they could have produced a vehicle that actually was properly scaled.

well, tanks follow different designs, the M1 is huge for a tank in general, specially compared to Russian or Asian designs
But compared to some APCs,

Spoiler:

The Lancer is fine compared to the Mule, a little on the small side compared to the infantry but there is no wargame that uses tanks that are perfect in scale with infantry

With that picture I think you just made my point for me. We agree that the footprint of the GCPS tanks is probably fine, but they're to short to be a battle tank and FAR too short as an APC hull. Unless we're assuming everyone is lying down inside them.

As for "No wargame...." You're just wrong there. Miniature soldiers will are often a touch thicker than true scale because of durability, but height wise, most games scale their vehicles and miniatures properly these days. FoW, Bolt Action, Legion, heck, even 40k is mostly "accurate" to mini size and fluff these days.