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tneva82 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Fellowship of the Ring

Except by the crowd to whom dropping of Bombadil is huge crime and sin ;-)

Back in the mid 90s when I first read LOTR my first thought when we encountered Bombadil was "if they ever do a movie of this book this scene is getting dropped"

BrianDavion wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Fellowship of the Ring

Except by the crowd to whom dropping of Bombadil is huge crime and sin ;-)

Back in the mid 90s when I first read LOTR my first thought when we encountered Bombadil was "if they ever do a movie of this book this scene is getting dropped"

Movies and books are different. I get that changes have to be made with pacing, and to reduce the number of characters, etc. I think the Old Woods and barrow downs bits in the book help set up Fanghorn and the confrontation with the witch king, but when something needs to hit the cutting room floor, they are the low hanging fruit. Faramir bothers me, as he swaps some aspects with Borormir, and not in his favor. But from a flow POV, i get when they did to move things back to Osgiliath.

Honestly, a 100% true shooting of the books would be unwatchable. What we got is probably the best possible outcome. Sure, there are calls I would have made differently, and a little nerd rage. But not me in the director’s chair.

I periodically like to show The Boy some classics. It gives you an interesting perspective to see things through another’s eyes. Movies are just not paced the same these days. He thought the Blues Brothers was OK. Didn’t care much for the original Godzilla, thought To Kill a Mockingbird was boring. I want to expose him to some kurosawa films, but don’t know if he could make it through them. Similarly, I just watched The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly last night. Nearly 3 hours. Classic, but I can just see The Boy pulling his phone out halfway though.

I’ll add Clue to the list. Great movie, one of my favorite comedies. I also am a huge fan of Mel Brooks films, but get that some might find them offensive.

tneva82 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Fellowship of the Ring

Except by the crowd to whom dropping of Bombadil is huge crime and sin ;-)

Or my wife, who finds Frodo annoying and the movie itself far too long and tedious.

The Ultramarines movie! How can anyone dislike that?! Jokes, obviously (though I enjoy having it on in the background while playing 40k at home).

I don’t think I met anyone who disliked Moana, as far as I know, though they have mentioned elements or scenes they didn't like.

I think the problem with this ‘game’ is you have to exclude anything even slightly ‘scary’ or ‘gross’, as others have said that can be off putting, but if we stick to the intended audience for a movie then it isn’t really an example of a movie that is undislikable.

The Disney route is probably the way to the solution. Include nothing too disagreeable. But then someone might dislike them for being bland (and I know many are disliked by some for following ‘damsel in distress’).

Maybe Shrek?!

Clue is a good one.

nareik wrote:
The Ultramarines movie! How can anyone dislike that?! Jokes, obviously (though I enjoy having it on in the background while playing 40k at home).

I don’t think I met anyone who disliked Moana, as far as I know, though they have mentioned elements or scenes they didn't like.

I think the problem with this ‘game’ is you have to exclude anything even slightly ‘scary’ or ‘gross’, as others have said that can be off putting, but if we stick to the intended audience for a movie then it isn’t really an example of a movie that is undislikable.

The Disney route is probably the way to the solution. Include nothing too disagreeable. But then someone might dislike them for being bland (and I know many are disliked by some for following ‘damsel in distress’).

Maybe Shrek?!

Definitely not Shrek.
Too much toilet humor, idiot balls and a disempowering moral: for the ugly guy to get the girl, she has to be ugly too.

I think you may have missed the moral of the story, being that appearances don’t matter, it’s what’s inside that counts...

Taking a different approach, a movie that was immune to dislike was Dogma. The creators gleefully joined the protests! And the movie was a success and is still one of my 5 movies that suck me in, regardless of what I’m up to.

I acknowledge that isn’t the spirit of the game... but it was immune to the effects of dislike.

Nothing is sacred and immune to criticism. But just because someone criticizes it doesn't mean it's not good or doesn't have good aspects.

 greatbigtree wrote:
I think you may have missed the moral of the story, being that appearances don’t matter, it’s what’s inside that counts...

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I missed it because it isn't the moral. The movie is not subtle about it, and the sequels hammer down the same point- they can only be together if they're both hideous. If appearances didn't matter, they'd both end up in their birth shapes and still have an ogre/human romance.

If the inside counts, they're still out of luck- Shrek is just as much an offensive jerk as prince mcshorty, they just play it for laughs instead. He slowly develops personal loyalty (to donkey and Fiona), but his main motivation is to get rid of the other critters. And frankly both Shrek and Fiona are pretty ugly on the inside as well. Their 'courting behavior 'on the way back from the castle mostly involves animal abuse and thoughtless destruction. But it's ok, because again, played for laughs.
By contrast the Prince is jerk, but even before that reveal, the movie takes it as fact that he's inherently inferior because he's short, and goes back to that well repeatedly. So in Shrek's world, appearances matter a lot.

Shrek's major plot point in the follow-up films center of the fact that since Fiona can be beautiful, she's better off without him.

Shrek 2 seems to be better regarded than the first movie. I can think of a very strong argument against Shrek 1: Somebody once told me...

Also, despite Shrek ostensibly being a comedy, its humor was really bland and uninteresting, at least to me. I found it just kinda forgettable. Not offensive, but kinda boring..

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Clue is a good one.

Clue is a simply marvelous movie. However, a lot of its humour is lost on...some people. Much in the way that several of my college roommates didn't understand the humour in Dr. Strangelove, etc. While I doubt many if any people have watched Clue and hated it, I think it's Neil Simon-esque style of writing may not be everyone's cup of tea.

That being said...damn I absolutely adore that movie. I think it's the unsung best of Tim Curry.

Thinking I misnamed the thread!

Whilst I’m always happy to be proven wrong through discourse (round of applause for everyone keeping it civil!). Pretty sure I asked the wrong question!

But hey, too late now!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Thinking I misnamed the thread!

Whilst I’m always happy to be proven wrong through discourse (round of applause for everyone keeping it civil!). Pretty sure I asked the wrong question!

But hey, too late now!

Unfortunately, someone, somewhere is going to hate something. So this thread is looking for something that just doesn’t exist.

I do think it’s an interesting change in perspective. Not what’s the best movie, or what’s your favorite. Which would have different answers. There are movies I like that many people wouldn’t. I get that, people have different tastes. And there are “good” movies that I just don’t care for. I recognize that the directing/writing/acting/cinematography might be excellent, but I don’t care for the genre, or don’t want the feels it’s going to generate. But what’s something that most people would enjoy, and not have any serious issues with? Anyone can watch and have a good time? Interesting question.

Did I mention Star Trek 4 or Short Curcuit 2?

It's been a long time since I saw Short Circuit 2,but I recall it not being anywhere near as good as the first one.

On a side note, when I picked up the DVD of Short Circuit, not having watched the movie since I was a kid, I was rather surprised by just how much adult inuendo was packed into that movie... Not a bad thing, but there was so much that I missed as a kid


Star Trek 4 is another that I hated as a teenager, as it seemed to be making a joke of a franchise that I took rather seriously and was very important to me. I enjoy it much more as an adult, having learnt to embrace the absurdity.

I hate short circuit 1 and 2. I just could not stand them as a kid and they haven't improved with an adult rewatch.

Yeah I think this is impossible there is always going to be folks that dislike something just out of the box - "I hate movies based on historical events" - "I don't like Tom Hanks..."

On that note, how bout Apollo 13? I think it is a pretty hard movie to really hate on. Unless maybe you are a history buff and get pissed because someone in mission control didn't look like the real guy or they got a technical point wrong.....

A lot of the ones mentioned above I agree with. I'll add The Goonies to that list. I don't know that I've ever met anyone who doesn't like that movie.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
A lot of the ones mentioned above I agree with. I'll add The Goonies to that list. I don't know that I've ever met anyone who doesn't like that movie.

I and several others have said they don't.

Hmm, I thought The Goonies was a seriously good option for this topic too.

Okay, how about one of these:

- Intouchables
- Willow
- Toy Story
- Madagascar
- Meet The Parents
- Labyrinth

BrianDavion wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Fellowship of the Ring

Except by the crowd to whom dropping of Bombadil is huge crime and sin ;-)

Back in the mid 90s when I first read LOTR my first thought when we encountered Bombadil was "if they ever do a movie of this book this scene is getting dropped"

Yep. That was my thoughts as well. I never expected that to be there. There's very few movie changes I actually really, really, REALLY dislike(that ringwraith saw Frodo in Osgiliath is one. I don't mind Faramir taking them there for making Faramir's arc have story of character development but shouldn't ringwraith have senses ring and kinda alerrt Sauron?) and this one was one I was expecting and thought obvious.

But damn there's lots of hate from certain people regarding that. I was stunned on that. Unless you expect to have 100% copy(which doesn't really work as movie) something's got to give and that's one section that is easy to cut without having big impact. And for some reason Frodo's age doesnt' cause much of comment despite having bigger impact on story in terms of change...

what about wallace and gromit? theyre just all round good fun, although the newer ones didnt do it for me as much.

 Tim 121RVC wrote:
Hmm, I thought The Goonies was a seriously good option for this topic too.

Okay, how about one of these:

- Intouchables
- Willow
- Toy Story
- Madagascar
- Meet The Parents
- Labyrinth

Love Madagascar
enjoyed Toy Story
Enjoyed some of Willow

Not bothered either way by the rest.

Some of the hate is just internet hyberbole. Then again many regard Tom as being a sort of projection of Tolkien in his own story in some way, so cutting him out is like cutting out the creator in a little bit of a way.

That said I do think it was right to cut it, its a shame to lose that whole scene and segment, but at the same time Tom would need a very very good director and actor to make the scene work without it coming off as utterly stupid.



Personally the only thing I really dislike that's missing is the scouring of the shire. I always felt that scene was ever so important because it did a few things
1) It showed that Bilbo and the other hobbits, whilst exceptional on their adventures, were not beyond the realms of reality for their own people. We see hobbits fighting and holding their own in their corner of the world.

2) It brings home that the hobbits are not outside of the world and its influences. It kind of brings it all home in a very real sense; far more so than the Ringwraiths raiding Hobbiton for the Ring.

3) I think it shows Sauron for his own colours one final and nasty time as he takes out his petty anger on the hobbits.


Overall they tease us with it, but its a shame it never took place in the films.

Big Trouble in Little China

 Tim 121RVC wrote:
Hmm, I thought The Goonies was a seriously good option for this topic too.

Okay, how about one of these:

- Intouchables
- Willow
- Toy Story
- Madagascar
- Meet The Parents
- Labyrinth

Do you mean Untouchables? Or Incredibles?

Personally, I had to leave Meet the Parents because the humor was almost entirely based on discomfort and embarrassment, and I get enough of that for free. Madagascar was...I think I saw that? I was going to say forgettable, but now I’m not even sure I saw the whole movie.

My wife won’t watch Labyrinth because it scared her too much as a kid, but I love that one. Same with Willow.

Came in to suggest Shawshank Redemption, which I see someone mentioned earlier and no-one really refuted, so that's a decent contender if you ask me.

Muppets Christmas Carol was a good shout as well.

I didn’t care for the Goonies. Didn’t hate it. Just didn’t care.

 Ghool wrote:
Big Trouble in Little China

oh hell yeah might well be my favourite John Carpenter film, its so good I can even stick the ever living source of uselessness that is Ms Cattrall