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 insaniak wrote:
Coming this Fall - 'Ba$ketball' - starring Kevin Hart as Shaquille O'Neal, Chris Rock as Michael Jordan, Tom Cruise as Charles Barkley and Tina Fey as Dennis Rodman! Special guest appearance by Eddie Murphy as Kim Jong-un!

I would think Tom Cruise would be better suited to play Larry Bird (get the token white guy in!). Everyone else looks like a plan. Even TF as DR. I would watch that movie. But you also need Terry Crews to play Mugsy Bogus (sp).

...And I smell a Space Jam sequel. I can hear Bugs now...”you can write this gak doc, but you sure as hell can’t get people to say it”. That way we can get Chris to once again spout the line “George Lucas is gonna sue somebody’s ass!”

I think quarantine is beginning to hurt my brain. And the brain of anybody who follows what I just wrote.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

...And I smell a Space Jam sequel.....

Already happening, for some inexplicable reason. Has LeBron James in it.

 insaniak wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

...And I smell a Space Jam sequel.....

Already happening, for some inexplicable reason. Has LeBron James in it.

Nostalgia googles!

<puts on Hipster hat> I much preferred Looney Tunes Back in Action than Space Jam.

 Easy E wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

...And I smell a Space Jam sequel.....

Already happening, for some inexplicable reason. Has LeBron James in it.

Nostalgia googles!

<puts on Hipster hat> I much preferred Looney Tunes Back in Action than Space Jam.

Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies shorts are the best bar none. And that's not nostalgia, I have DVDs of a fair chunk of them in my collection right now and watch them semi-regularly.

 Vulcan wrote:

 Easy E wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 timetowaste85 wrote:

...And I smell a Space Jam sequel.....

Already happening, for some inexplicable reason. Has LeBron James in it.

Nostalgia googles!

<puts on Hipster hat> I much preferred Looney Tunes Back in Action than Space Jam.

Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies shorts are the best bar none. And that's not nostalgia, I have DVDs of a fair chunk of them in my collection right now and watch them semi-regularly.

a) This. I love Looney Tunes, particularly the Chuck Jones era. A comic genius, who also understood the comedy/tragedy relationship and would occasionally blindside you with genuine feelings.

b) It’s been a long while since I watched either, but I also remember preferring Back In Action to Space Jam. I particularly liked how they updated Wile E Coyote to the modern era.

 insaniak wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
that would have required the average film going audiance to know who Gary Mitchel WAS.

Because the average film going audience knew who Khan was?

for WOK no, by time into the darkness came along... yes.

I very much doubt that. WoK came out 30 years before Into Darkness. I would suspect that the only ID viewers under the age of 40 with any idea who Khan was would have been the actual Star Trek fans.

How many viewers under the age of 40 who paid to see the second JJ Trek movie do you believe were not Star Trek fans?

Anybody who has ever actually SEEN a Star Trek movie knows who Khan is. It’s like having seen any X-Men movie; you know who Magneto is. Even if you only have a vague idea of the characters, you know who he is.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Anybody who has ever actually SEEN a Star Trek movie knows who Khan is. It’s like having seen any X-Men movie; you know who Magneto is. Even if you only have a vague idea of the characters, you know who he is.

I'd almost dare to say Khan is the most well know Star Trek character from the TOS era after Spock. Lots of people have seen the Kirk screaming his name meme, and that meme is called KHAAN! not Kirk.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
How many viewers under the age of 40 who paid to see the second JJ Trek movie do you believe were not Star Trek fans?

Most of them, on a guess.

To be clear, in this context, 'Star Trek fan' would be referring to people who were actually familiar with the franchise prior to the first JJ movie.

Given the long dry spell, I would very strongly suspect that there were far fewer pre-JJ fans of the franchise in Into Darkness seats than there were people who started with JJ Trek and came back for more because they enjoyed that one.

I could be wrong. If there are demographic breakdowns out there somewhere, I'd be vaguely curious to see them... Just not enough to go looking for them.


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 LordofHats wrote:

I'd almost dare to say Khan is the most well know Star Trek character from the TOS era after Spock. Lots of people have seen the Kirk screaming his name meme, and that meme is called KHAAN! not Kirk.

Given that, from my experience the average cinema goer struggles to tell the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek, that's not really saying much.

Having seen the name in a meme and knowing the character's backstory aren't the same thing.

...you think the average moviegoer is that ignorant? There’s a huge difference in box office numbers for Star Trek movies and Star Wars movies. The average moviegoer (who sees science fiction movies) definitely knows the difference.

Keep in mind that the movie going population is a small fraction of the actual population. Considering the cost of movie tickets, movie goers tend to require some kind of motivation to see a movie, sadly often in the form of recognizing an established IP.

And Star Trek is part of the popular consciousness. Especially in the internet age, I think you’d have a hard time finding a majority of people willing to pay to see a science fiction movie who don’t know anything about Star Trek.

Both are well known names and part of the public consciousness not just from the shows/films but from the mainstream references and comedy thats been built around them for decades.

They are referenced in many of the big shows from the Simpsons to Southpark, Friends to Big Bang theory.

However details and character names except for say "Kirk, Spock, Scotty, Luke, Leia, Darth Vader" are much less likely to be know or indeed much cared about.

Jack Reacher, while Tom Cruise is a very good actor, having someone so short play as someone, who in the books is about 2 inches taller than anyone and everyone he comes across (regardless of their given height) is quite amusing.