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2020/10/07 03:20:24
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Cryptids! A very interesting subject, as whilst largely a pseudo science at worst, and a fringe science at best? The fun is in exploring the likely, then the possible, explanation.
Example? This video. Offers a rational, and likely explanation. Then a ‘what if’ explanation.
But, you take what you wish from the following video.
Hate to say it But to me its all absolute bullgak peddling and putting "science" anywhere near cryptids is very detrimental to science and thus humanity moving forward IMO
However... It is SO FUN to talk about!! The corfu thing is most certainly a bad shot of some sort of whale/dolphin IMO. I actually really buy into Umbepe Membe (or however you spell it) being either some sort of pigmy sauropod dinosaur as possibly deep jungle climate could potoentialy have rich enough O2 content atmosphere in some deep pocket maybe? But far more likely its some sort of ice age remnant like Macrauchenia (however AFAIK these were south american). But it is fascinating because the deep congo is so unexplorable to outsiders we will probably never know. But if I was betting man.. Id bet what the local people are describing is a giraffe.. howerver explainign how it got there is a whole other kettle of cryptid
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AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Okay, time to really get to grips with some serious conspiracy.
Socks. We all know what they are and I'm willing to bet we've all had them mysteriously vanish, to be left with a lone sock from a pair.
Now I'd previously subscribed to the simple Eater of Socks theory proposed by Sir Terry Pratchett in his seminal work examining the origins of folklore, Hogfather.
But I have just found a video which, I believe, reopens the whole argument:
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
2020/10/19 01:36:00
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
AngryAngel80 wrote: I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
The real question is if the Eater of Socks is also responsible for lost pencils and pens.
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
I took the cases of covid confirmed,. divided by the number of covid deaths and it worked out to over 300% more that the fictional "1% death rate". By the numbers covid was killing over 3% of the infected. All you need to do is look at the infections and the deaths and do some basic math. True, the numbers are regrettably large, i used a calculator. I have some large fancy ones but even a dollar store calculator can handle this.
My home state cases: 271,000.
Divide 271,000 by 100. 2710. This is one percent the number of cases.
Deaths of covid in my home state: 8643.
Divide the number of deaths by 1% of covid cases. 8643/2710. 3.18, rounded off to 2 decimals.
Actual covid death rate is thus 3.18% in my state. The survival rate is 96.82%.
That's the math. anyone with a functional calculator can check it.
I had pretty much this exact conversation in the now locked corona thread back in February...
2020/10/20 02:14:10
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
So this came up in the Coronavirus thread and made for interesting exchanges. To prevent derailing, started this thread.
What is it I’m looking to discuss? Well, not so much a specific a conspiracy theory. And this isn’t an effort to ‘name and shame’ or point and laugh at specific individuals. Rather, I want to discuss the far more interesting question of why people can come to believe in even the most insane of conspiracy theories. For example, Flat Earth. We know beyond the shadow of any doubt at all that’s utter bobbins. The earth is round, we’ve been to space, and have the pictures to prove it.
Yet, not all conspiracy theories are completely mental - and some even turn out to have more than just a grain of truth, but to have been absolutely on the money. And that’s what makes them an interesting topic of discussion in my book.
Example? Well, the readily findable examples may be a bit too political to be kicking off with. So I’ll trust you to Google them yourself rather than me start the thread off on the wrong foot and hamstring the discussion. But they do exist, 100%.
Turns out, there are those with a recognised, psychological predilection to believe in conspiracy theories. In essence, it causes an inherent distrust of any research and opinion other than one’s own. And in some cases, an absolute unshakeable faith that You Are Right, regardless of any actual knowledge on a given subject. Their opinion is the Be All And End All.
And for the avoidance of rank hypocrisy on my behalf - this is just my own, loose understanding that has been garnered having had a casual interest. I am perfectly happy to be educated, and who knows depending on need, re-educated about this!
Now to get into more interesting things. For many (not all) conspiracy theories, a common strand is Selective Evidence. The conspiracy theorist discounts any and all evidence against their take. The reasons given will vary - it’s a lie, its a shill, the person questioning them is working for The Man etc.
Let’s take a common bit of long debunked tripe. Jet Fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to melt steel. Ultimately, correct. But it’s application ignores entirely that it need only burn hot enough to damage structural integrity. And that a building collapsing in any given way will depend up its method of construction. It also completely discounts any prior physical damage to the structure.
They also often struggle to provide a solid, rational answer to ‘yeah.....but why?’. Example here? Those that believe Kurt Cobain was murdered. Sure, the evidence there far from rules it out. The ‘yeah, but why?’ element in this case is that it implies a cover up. What’s the point? If as some would have you believe Courtney Love murdered him, what’s the reason for Police protecting her? What’s the motivation to get her off Scot Free? Compare to Conspiracies proven true - those typically had a clear advantage to be had from them.
They also tend to be implausible in execution. Some of the more bizarre ones would require a huge number of people to be complicit, and seemingly utterly without qualms or morals. Even more so when it’s a widely accepted fact that most/all Governments have shown absolutely nowhere near the competence required to pull such things off.
So that’s my opener. Before I hit submit, please remember this is a discussion, and intended to be friendly and open minded. If you feel things getting a bit heated, please give yourself a breather before your next post.
It is clearly not a safe conflation to put all "conspiracy theorists" in the same psychological profile. Think about this, a "conspiracy theorist" is just the new word for "heretic" and from the point of view of the orthodox all heresies are the same but objectively they are not because the orthodox is also a heresy from another perspective. Like it or not but during the Wars of Religion both Catholics and Protestants each considered their own team to be the true orthodox and the other to be the heretics. So it is simply lazy to say flat earthers share some kind of brain gene with a 9/11 truther or someone suspicious of the freemasons or someone that imagines the oil companies are trying to cover up climate change or whatever else is the heresy of the day.
My theory for Flat Earthers is that some portion of the brain just does not have an adequate model of spatial awareness for conceiving of a spherical earth, because they can't model the proposition or imagine it they are forced to reject it and create a alternative model that better fits what their mind is wired to do. You might as well ask why can't women park or why men drive too fast. Our conception of reality is limited by what our brains can do. We ALL of us live in a world generated by our own mind out of exceedingly slight and scrappy perceptual data. In a way the flat earthers are no more wrong than us who cannot conceive of the earth in 5 dimensions. Some physicist could come out with a funky model of the earth with 10 stringy dimensions and you would just have to accept it as orthodoxy without understanding it or trust in your own flawed perception of it being 3 dimensional, just like a flat earther trusts his flawed perception of it being flat.
That's my theory but clearly it can't be translated to "9/11 truthers" or to those weirdos that believe in "late capitalism". Something else is going on with them.
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2020/11/27 01:49:45
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Late-stage capitalism. I find the wiki article kind of meh. The basic idea is that there is a limit to capitalism's ability to grow wealth, that capitalism as a system is inherently unjust/unequeal, and that Marx was mostly correct about how capitalism would end. All using present examples as arguments in favor of the position.
It's very en vogue at the moment, especially online among anarchists. I'm not sure why it would fall into the same category as 9/11 truthers though. Late capitalism is an old model that tried to reconcile classical Marxism with the post-world war economic boom and its found a new lease on life among some subcultures who are critical of shallow defenses of capitalism (stuff like the good old bootstrap argument). It doesn't really posit any conspiracy (though I guess the phrase probably would be popular among conspiracy nuts).
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LordofHats wrote: I'm not sure why it would fall into the same category as 9/11 truthers though.
Maybe the fact that the poster in question also threw climate change into that same pile will give some insight into the thought processes going on here.
2020/11/27 05:56:10
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Surely 'late-stage capitalism' is really just a recognition that the Fukuyama theory of "the end of history" never came to fruition at all?
Additionally, it kind of confronts that a significant number of the current pervasive theories about economics are fatally flawed because of their unsustainable approach to the environment, mixed in with cynicism about how alienating the experience of existing in the post-industrial, semi/totally digital retail-centric, debt-reliant economies of the West is?
Like, it's not so much a conspiracy theory as it is an interpretation of current events and society.
Almost anyone actually saying the phrase "late-stage capitalism" is usually joking, outside of an academic context, but it's popularity in the popular imagination (particulary among young adults) does reflect a growing anxiety about the sustainability of contemporary economic and sociopolitical norms. I certanily wouldn't call it a conspiracy theory at all really.
2020/11/27 06:14:11
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Laughing Man wrote:Maybe the fact that the poster in question also threw climate change into that same pile will give some insight into the thought processes going on here.
That... Tracks. Yes.
posermcbogus wrote:Surely 'late-stage capitalism' is really just a recognition that the Fukuyama theory of "the end of history" never came to fruition at all?
I mean, I'd consider it an acknowledgement that capitalism isn't some magic hand ready to solve all ills like shallow armchair economists with political agendas like to pretend it is going hand in hand with mocking said armchair economists and their flimsy justifications of the status quo inequities of present society. But yea, it's probably more polite to just say it's an interpretation of current events and there's nothing particularly conspiratorial about it.
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Frankly, it is not so much that capitalism couldn't be infinite growth, assuming the universe is infinite, but reaching the required ressources would be a whole other debate and issue now wouldn't it. (or getting even to the societal development level where we reach travel capacity before we blow each other up...)
Alas we don't even manage to keep childgambling down and out of videogames and still have countries use slave labour en masse... (china f.e.)
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2020/11/27 09:43:36
Subject: Re:Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Ha, so we have some orthodox believers of Late Capitalism here. How orthodox are you though? Do you reject the heretic? Obviously not everyone in the world accepts this story as gospel. What about those people? Are they not obviously crazy, stupid or even a bit evil? Surely there is something wrong with them, no? Something has to be done about them.
2020/11/27 09:56:48
Subject: Re:Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
SolarCross wrote: Ha, so we have some orthodox believers of Late Capitalism here. How orthodox are you though? Do you reject the heretic? Obviously not everyone in the world accepts this story as gospel. What about those people? Are they not obviously crazy, stupid or even a bit evil? Surely there is something wrong with them, no? Something has to be done about them.
I am not a native english speaker but i fail to see any kind of utterance in this regard to warrant such a response.
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2020/11/27 10:52:56
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Matt Swain wrote: Well, late capitalism seems to explain what it happening in modern america so can it be called a conspiracy theory when it seems to fit the facts?
The truth is the facts always suits the requirements of the Orthodox and the facts that don't fit are ignored or treated as falsehood or insanity if they can't be ignored. For those that don't believe in the story the facts refute the story of Late Capitalism.
Here is a fun thought for you. When you fly in a plane and look out the window you see a curved earth, yes? So do I. Who could blame us for believing in a ball shaped earth when that is what the evidence of our senses show? The trouble is flat earthers ALSO ride in planes and look out of the window.. would it really surprise you if when they look out the window they literally see a flat earth? If they did how could you blame them for believing it is flat and rejecting those deny the facts as liars or dupes or whatever? If that is what they see... Think of that internet sensation where there was a picture of a dress that some people swore was it was black and blue and others that swore it was white and gold.
I would put it even this strongly: we don't actually experience the world as it is at all, our "brains" generate EVERYTHING and everything it generates is to suit a personal agenda. The agenda can be generalised as "survival" in darwinian terms at the base, but I would tend to expect that the entirety of Maslow's heirarchy has its shaping effect too.
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2020/11/27 11:42:02
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
i don't think you want to enter the "cogito ergo sum " level.
Further so far even if you were to accept that alot of people interpret the world more via context given to them via agendas, that doesn't absolve them of falsifyablilty f.e.
nor do visual imputs and their various shortcomings alone verify that we allways simulate everything with our brains. think of abstract concepts. Classification, etc.
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2020/11/27 11:44:30
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Not Online!!! wrote: i don't think you want to enter the "cogito ergo sum " level.
Further so far even if you were to accept that alot of people interpret the world more via context given to them via agendas, that doesn't absolve them of falsifyablilty f.e.
nor do visual imputs and their various shortcomings alone verify that we allways simulate everything with our brains. think of abstract concepts. Classification, etc.
Believe what you want then. I would not expect any different.
2020/11/27 11:53:42
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Not Online!!! wrote: i don't think you want to enter the "cogito ergo sum " level.
Further so far even if you were to accept that alot of people interpret the world more via context given to them via agendas, that doesn't absolve them of falsifyablilty f.e.
nor do visual imputs and their various shortcomings alone verify that we allways simulate everything with our brains. think of abstract concepts. Classification, etc.
Believe what you want then. I would not expect any different.
so you have no answer, to a contradiction brought forth torwards your claim that we simulate everything... and answer that with a relativistic stance upon which you will defend yourself with an arguably over inflated individualistic position with a sole basis of subjectivism.
Tell me, since you clearly know how the concioussness works preciscly then, (a question debated since what now 2500 years), what is the answer of the philosophy of mind?
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2020/11/27 12:09:41
Subject: Re:Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
'i don't think you want to enter the "cogito ergo sum " level.'
You don't and can't know what I want but you have to pretend you do because of your need to keep a narrative so you "think" a reality up to project on me... You are just unwittingly confirming my proposition.
you postulated that you had deeper understanding of how human concioussness works, by extrapulating a position which can be quite easily pointed to a form of cogito ergo sum, as in a dualistic split approach to concioussness, a philosophical question debated since 2500 years with no clear answer as off now, neither provided by neurology nor psychology as of yet.
A position which got delibarated and has far reaching issues in itself like virtually any position of any concept of the same philosophy of mind.
It is a highly and easily doubtable position as are all concepts based upon how the concioussness actually works.
Pointing that out to you for it is an easily attackable position has nothing to do with any type of narrative.
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2020/11/27 12:28:51
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Not Online!!! wrote: you postulated that you had deeper understanding of how human concioussness works, by extrapulating a position which can be quite easily pointed to a form of cogito ergo sum, as in a dualistic split approach to concioussness, a philosophical question debated since 2500 years with no clear answer as off now, neither provided by neurology nor psychology as of yet.
A position which got delibarated and has far reaching issues in itself like virtually any position of any concept of the same philosophy of mind.
It is a highly and easily doubtable position as are all concepts based upon how the concioussness actually works.
Pointing that out to you for it is an easily attackable position has nothing to do with any type of narrative.
No I am not postulating anything dualistic. You are projecting again.
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2020/11/27 12:33:51
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Not Online!!! wrote: you postulated that you had deeper understanding of how human concioussness works, by extrapulating a position which can be quite easily pointed to a form of cogito ergo sum, as in a dualistic split approach to concioussness, a philosophical question debated since 2500 years with no clear answer as off now, neither provided by neurology nor psychology as of yet.
A position which got delibarated and has far reaching issues in itself like virtually any position of any concept of the same philosophy of mind.
It is a highly and easily doubtable position as are all concepts based upon how the concioussness actually works.
Pointing that out to you for it is an easily attackable position has nothing to do with any type of narrative.
No I am not postulating anything dualistic. You are projecting again.
I would put it even this strongly: we don't actually experience the world as it is at all, our "brains" generate EVERYTHING and everything it generates is to suit a personal agenda. The agenda can be generalised as "survival" in darwinian terms at the base, but I would tend to expect that the entirety of Maslow's heirarchy has its shaping effect too.
it seems to me that you are stating that we experience somehow but that the actuall experience we are aware off is generated by the brain.
So we seem to have an physical world and a mental world , ergo a dualism.
Unless of course you are insisting that we are solely in a monistic mental world via discounting reality. Which then begs the question as to how do we get the experience for the brain to simulate something at all.
So even if i misunderstood your position as dualistic, as is possible, you'd still have to provide me an answer as to how conciousness works, as of now you didn't provide anything. And the same issues still remain, all positions so far are neither proveable nor disproven as of right now.
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2020/11/27 13:35:00
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
it seems to me that you are stating that we experience somehow but that the actuall experience we are aware off is generated by the brain.
So we seem to have an physical world and a mental world , ergo a dualism.
Unless of course you are insisting that we are solely in a monistic mental world via discounting reality. Which then begs the question as to how do we get the experience for the brain to simulate something at all.
So even if i misunderstood your position as dualistic, as is possible, you'd still have to provide me an answer as to how conciousness works, as of now you didn't provide anything. And the same issues still remain, all positions so far are neither proveable nor disproven as of right now.
No, I am saying that an individual's experience of the world is 100% subjective and does not and can not represent an objective picture representation of whatever objective reality may exist. Even to the extent that our experience of time and 3d space is an illusion (as the physicists are now exploring!). I am making no claims about whatever objective reality may exist under our (diverse) perceptions. I am not claiming dualism and I am not claiming monism. Whatever the underlying reality is, it is practically unknowable.
I have said that the subjective experience is heavily driven by the individual's needs such as survival, self-esteem etc. I don't think that has any dualistic or monistic implications.
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2020/11/27 14:08:09
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
You implicitly do by stating that our brains have an agenda ( our concioussness) you state that the concioussness of us works in a pureley mental capacity. A subjective but purely mental capacity.
and yes that has implications torwards concioussness. Because it would assume that , as stated, reality seems to be an illusion, it would mean that we are a monotheistic mental all alone concioussness, ergo Cogito ergo sum beeing the only correct answer .
With all the issues that that brings,
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2020/11/27 14:13:04
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Not Online!!! wrote: You implicitly do by stating that our brains have an agenda ( our concioussness) you state that the concioussness of us works in a pureley mental capacity. A subjective but purely mental capacity.
and yes that has implications torwards concioussness. Because it would assume that , as stated, reality seems to be an illusion, it would mean that we are a monotheistic mental all alone concioussness, ergo Cogito ergo sum beeing the only correct answer .
With all the issues that that brings,
You are shifting from projecting dualism on me to projecting monism on me here. Perhaps you would like to work a little harder at generating a consistently false narrative over reality?
2020/11/27 14:46:34
Subject: Conspiracy Theorists - a ‘but why?’ Discussion.
Not Online!!! wrote: You implicitly do by stating that our brains have an agenda ( our concioussness) you state that the concioussness of us works in a pureley mental capacity. A subjective but purely mental capacity.
and yes that has implications torwards concioussness. Because it would assume that , as stated, reality seems to be an illusion, it would mean that we are a monotheistic mental all alone concioussness, ergo Cogito ergo sum beeing the only correct answer .
With all the issues that that brings,
You are shifting from projecting dualism on me to projecting monism on me here. Perhaps you would like to work a little harder at generating a consistently false narrative over reality?
I am not the one stating that all experience is simulated upon the basis of our brains seemingly along the line of laws of nature or economy, or do i need to quote you again.
I would put it even this strongly: we don't actually experience the world as it is at all, our "brains" generate EVERYTHING and everything it generates is to suit a personal agenda. The agenda can be generalised as "survival" in darwinian terms at the base, but I would tend to expect that the entirety of Maslow's heirarchy has its shaping effect too.
maybee that is only the simulated response afterall of my brain...
So again, if you like it or not THIS IS an claim in regards to how our concioussness works and how it interacts with the world.
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