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Here is something else that is self-evident.

X-wing vs. Tie Fighter was the greatest Star Wars video game.....

That’s not how you spell Rebel Strike on the GameCube?

I mean, it was ace in its own right, but also included a near complete, two player version of Rogue Leader?

Man....now I want to buy a GameCube!

The Mandalorian is amazing...how’s that Obi Wan show coming on? It’s not cancelled is it?

Nope. Gone back to scripting. If memory serves, the concern is it was turning out a bit too similar to The Mando, as in Space Western.

And yes. Just ordered a GameCube and Rebel Strike.....

Is it about Obi’s early days or his time on Tatooine?

Also I’m finding myself watching TCW at every opportunity. Completely hooked!

A Tales series would be fantastic!

Favourite one was Jabba's palace, and was definitely the most enjoyable "hideout" in the movies. The Cantina was alright, while Maz's place was just the Cantina repeated, but Jabba's palace was a whole adventure in itself with so much character.

His time on Tattooine, so far as I know, as Ewan McGregor is reprising.

Article from Techradar. Unsure of reliability, but the info isn’t presented dramatically, so possibly reliable!

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/the-obi-wan-kenobi-star-wars-series-on-disney-plus-just-got-a-major-change

Yeah, its good that they are doing the Obi Wan series. Just wondering how it will differ from the Scott Miller novel, which was pretty good.

I can’t wait to see it. I wish I seen the samurai films that helped inspire Star Wars in the first place to get an idea of what it could be like.

I wonder if it’ll have a connection to Rebels?

It would be nice if they could tie in Rebels to the Obi Wan series. Not sure how that would happen though.

A very long shot, but I suppose they could revisit the Obi Wan episode and just have it as a live action episode. Bring back Ray park and I'm sure Sam Witwer would jump at the chance to do the voice once again.

There could be a chance of Liam Neeson popping up once in a while as a force ghost, and would make the ending of Revenge of the Sith more meaningful when Yoda has training for Obi Wan on Tatooine.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s not how you spell Rebel Strike on the GameCube?

I mean, it was ace in its own right, but also included a near complete, two player version of Rogue Leader?

Man....now I want to buy a GameCube!

Rebel strike was not as good as Rogue Leader, I feel. They added the ground combat stuff and then overused it. I play Rogue Squadron for the flying stuff; the ground combat should be a different game. That being said, it wasn't terrible or anything, and the co-op version of Rogue Leader gave my brother and I hours of enjoyment.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nope. Gone back to scripting. If memory serves, the concern is it was turning out a bit too similar to The Mando, as in Space Western.

Like that’s a bad thing

One of the things I love about the Mandolorian is the real old school, 70’s TV vibe (the plots, the cinematography and especially the music); gives me serious nostalgia for stuff I watched as a young kid, like the old Incredible Hulk TV series.

I think that’s why it feels “so Star Wars”; as I recall, the old Kurosawa films were a key influence on George Lucas, as they were for the spaghetti westerns, so this series is coming from those same roots.


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Also, I would buy the hell out of a graphic /illustrated novel of the series that uses all the artwork from the end credits. Come on Disney, you’re not shy about merchandising everything else!

I guess they just want multiple irons in the fire? I wouldn’t object to another Spaceghettti Western type thing overall, but I do understand why they want each show to have more of a unique feel.

The Cassian Andor one I’m particularly looking forward to, as it’s likely to be quite different to existing Star Wars stuff. He was a bit ruthless when we first saw him in Rogue One.

A bit ruthless?!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I guess they just want multiple irons in the fire? I wouldn’t object to another Spaceghettti Western type thing overall, but I do understand why they want each show to have more of a unique feel.

The Cassian Andor one I’m particularly looking forward to, as it’s likely to be quite different to existing Star Wars stuff. He was a bit ruthless when we first saw him in Rogue One.

This one should use the Spy Genre as the baseline tropes, you know a show like Alias or The Black List.

Haven’t seen those. But what I know of Cassian from Rogue Ome? Yes. A proper spy thriller.

I know that in earlier drafts, he was a double agent looking to kill Saw Gerrera in vengence for his wife and kid(s).

There’s definitely room to work something similar in. Just keep him, or ideally his world, morally ambiguous. Given the hints in Imperial Oppression glimpsed in Rogue One? That presents a lot of narrative leeway for bold story writers.

Sounds like it could be Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy...IN SPACE!!!

And yeah the Mandalorian is very old school, which is probably why it works so well.

 Jadenim wrote:


I think that’s why it feels “so Star Wars”; as I recall, the old Kurosawa films were a key influence on George Lucas, as they were for the spaghetti westerns, so this series is coming from those same roots.

Lucas was inspired by Kurosawa, Kurosawa was also inspired by spaghetti westerns. Mando is inspired by george being inspired by Akira being inspired by Sergio. It's all circular.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Sounds like it could be Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy...IN SPACE!!!

And yeah the Mandalorian is very old school, which is probably why it works so well.

Yeah, because those oldschool movies understood the craftsmanship of storytelling rather than use storyboard-by-manager's-directive-whiteboard.

Bran Dawri wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Sounds like it could be Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy...IN SPACE!!!

And yeah the Mandalorian is very old school, which is probably why it works so well.

Yeah, because those oldschool movies understood the craftsmanship of storytelling rather than use storyboard-by-manager's-directive-whiteboard.

Things always go downhill when executives get involved.

Also, watching the Clone Wars, I’m getting reminded again that in terms of tec, things went backwards as time went on.

You’ll get even more out of Clone Wars once you get to Rebels.

Sure, the first half of the first season is a bit naff, but the way it weaves together the two eras is really cool.

I look forward to getting around to watching Rebels.

Also, I just finished the Onderon arc of TCW. Fantastic stuff. Rogue One is even more significant now.

Star Wars has gotten so bad that even an average paint by numbers show like the Mandalorian was considered amazing by the fanbase, to use an Eddie Murphy joke as an analogy.

A person is in the middle of the desert, starving to death, a person comes over to him and offers him a cracker, the starving person takes it and thinks its the greatest cracker they have ever tasted... but its just a normal cracker.

The Star Wars fans were the starving person (Disney Star Wars) and they were given a normal run of the mill cracker (The Mandalorian) and think its the greatest thing ever, but as soon as they start eating real food again (The Expanse, Sense 8 for example) they realise the cracker was just a cracker.

Star Wars died when Lucas gave it up, Disney wars is all we have left.

That’s nice for you.

 Formosa wrote:
Star Wars has gotten so bad that even an average paint by numbers show like the Mandalorian was considered amazing by the fanbase, to use an Eddie Murphy joke as an analogy.

A person is in the middle of the desert, starving to death, a person comes over to him and offers him a cracker, the starving person takes it and thinks its the greatest cracker they have ever tasted... but its just a normal cracker.

The Star Wars fans were the starving person (Disney Star Wars) and they were given a normal run of the mill cracker (The Mandalorian) and think its the greatest thing ever, but as soon as they start eating real food again (The Expanse, Sense 8 for example) they realise the cracker was just a cracker.

Star Wars died when Lucas gave it up, Disney wars is all we have left.

It's insanity to think starwars died when lucas gave it up.

Starwars died when lucas made the special editions. And then the prequels. Or the holiday special. Lucas has done more bad for starwars then he ever did good. And there has always been more bad in Starwars then there ever was good.

 Formosa wrote:
Star Wars has gotten so bad that even an average paint by numbers show like the Mandalorian was considered amazing by the fanbase, to use an Eddie Murphy joke as an analogy.

A person is in the middle of the desert, starving to death, a person comes over to him and offers him a cracker, the starving person takes it and thinks its the greatest cracker they have ever tasted... but its just a normal cracker.

The Star Wars fans were the starving person (Disney Star Wars) and they were given a normal run of the mill cracker (The Mandalorian) and think its the greatest thing ever, but as soon as they start eating real food again (The Expanse, Sense 8 for example) they realise the cracker was just a cracker.

Star Wars died when Lucas gave it up, Disney wars is all we have left.

1 million percent this. I got through the first half an hour of the Mandalorian's first episode, couldn't stomach any more. When he lands on the planet, gets attacked by whatever predator finds him, and gets saved by the indigenous stranger, that's where I had to stop. 'Bounty hunter?' 'Yes' 'i will help you.' Just............ UGGHHHHHHHHHH. So much groan. If it were anything but Star Wars, that show wouldn't have gotten half the praise that it did.

I was wondering when you guys would arrive.

Back on topic, I do like how The Mandalorian has managed to happily include prequel era stuff, like the Actually managed to make them threatening.

 Lance845 wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
Star Wars has gotten so bad that even an average paint by numbers show like the Mandalorian was considered amazing by the fanbase, to use an Eddie Murphy joke as an analogy.

A person is in the middle of the desert, starving to death, a person comes over to him and offers him a cracker, the starving person takes it and thinks its the greatest cracker they have ever tasted... but its just a normal cracker.

The Star Wars fans were the starving person (Disney Star Wars) and they were given a normal run of the mill cracker (The Mandalorian) and think its the greatest thing ever, but as soon as they start eating real food again (The Expanse, Sense 8 for example) they realise the cracker was just a cracker.

Star Wars died when Lucas gave it up, Disney wars is all we have left.

It's insanity to think starwars died when lucas gave it up.

Starwars died when lucas made the special editions. And then the prequels. Or the holiday special. Lucas has done more bad for starwars then he ever did good. And there has always been more bad in Starwars then there ever was good.

Yeah you are right and I did not explain myself properly, it did not die because he gave it up, it died when he gave it up due to the horrible mismanagement from Disney, Kennedy and everyone at Lucas Film, Lucas does have his share of the blame true.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I think the issue with an Empire focussed series is making the protagonists sympathetic without them defecting to the Rebellion or what have you. Because the die hards we’ve seen are pretty awful people, loyal to a regime they know to be bullying and oppressive.

The problem is you have what are pretty disparate shows, movies, comic books and such all taking place in the same universe with varying tones
Sure you can have a show focused on the empire and how they are just people too, caught up in a machine and trying to make it through life either keeping their heads down or keeping quiet.
Then you have a show like Rebels which has them cartoonishly evil, bombing civilians and such.

Having just watched “The Phantom Apprentice”, episode 10 Season 7 of Clone Wars?

I stand by my original statement all the more! That folks is how you do it! No plot discussion. But it’s not often I’m held rapt by a show, being one to multitask. This was an exception. So much going on, and the animation was superb.