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 Ghaz wrote:
Looks a lot like the conversion GW did for the Mephrit Dynasty models for the Baal: Exterminatus book and featured in the 13 December 2014 White Dwarf Weekly.

I saw that when I had my warriors about half done. There's nothing wrong with it, especially if you're arming your Immortals with tesla carbines, but their method requires a bit more work. Mine was also cheaper, at least at the time, due to all the Barges being broken up by bits sellers and parted out (I got the guns REAL cheap).

It all depends on the work you're willing to put into it and which final product you prefer.

I really like the Assault Intercessors. I'm currently converting a Thunderwarriors army (counts as Primaris Flesh Tearers) and these guys would be perfect for it. Although, I do have a few questions about them.

Will they be their own unit, or just upgraded weapons options for a regular Intercessor unit? (Betting on own unit).

Will it be just pistol and chainsword, or will they have upgrades like the Intercessors? Also, Jump packs an option? (I think likely not)

Will their Sergeant have the same Intercessor weapons options? I hope so, other wise it would still be better to take normal Intercessors for assaulting just for the Sergeant wargear.


What use do you think they will have? Only thing I can see is to put them upfield (or deepstriking) and hope they hit close combat as a tarpit no later than turn 3.

For me, a big takeway was Mike Brandt joining Warhammer Community to head events. Are we going to see a return to GW sponsored tournaments vs just supporting?

The way the rulebook seems to be laid out sounds alot like 4th Edition rulebook. 4th had things like the Combat Patrol Force Org and Kill Team rules. Having scenarios for all sizes of the game is a great way to introduce someone to the hobby and allow them to build their army in increments and play with rules at an appropriate scale.

The 9 new rules teased address gripes with 8th. It also sounds like the trend stays true and we are going to move away from foot slogging gun lines to mechanized MSU. It feels like every edition we flip flop from foot slogging to mech MSU. Time to hurry up and wait for the release.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
It's been well established that Marines sell the game to a majority of players, even if it didn't sell it to you personally.

Established by who? Did you run a study on it?

Now you're just trying to claim some kind of authority on the subject.

Marines have been the driving force of 40k for a long time. They've always made up more sales, even when we didn't see updates for them very often, and most players have at least one Marine army sitting around (if they're not actively playing it). You can quibble all you want but Marines are popular. More popular than every other army combined. It's in GW's best interest to put Marines in a starter box because of that.

The first thing GW staffers do when they smell 'new blood' is try to push Space Marines on them. I remember when I first walked into a GW store and grabbed a box of Cadian Shock Troops (because they had the coolest cover art), the guy spent a good ten minutes insisting I should definitely buy the Space Marine starter/paint set. Over the years I saw the same thing many times over.

Warhammer's an expensive hobby, especially these days. Most newcomers are either told by staffers, their friends or the internet that Marines are newbie friendly. Once they've started, a lot of people are reluctant to commit to other armies because it's so expensive to get started. It's no surprise that Marines are a self-fulfilling prophecy when it comes to popularity. It's probably also why almost all new AoS players have some small Stormcast force, but those who came in from WHFB often tend not to, even if they aren't using their old army.

Just think: A few weeks ago I had a heap of my 40k up for sale, including my Dark Imperium stuff. I sat for a moment and thought about it, then took the Dark Imperium stuff down. Happy I did now, soon they’ll be joined by a new group of Battle Brothers.

 Arbitrator wrote:

The first thing GW staffers do when they smell 'new blood' is try to push Space Marines on them. I remember when I first walked into a GW store and grabbed a box of Cadian Shock Troops (because they had the coolest cover art), the guy spent a good ten minutes insisting I should definitely buy the Space Marine starter/paint set. Over the years I saw the same thing many times over.

Warhammer's an expensive hobby, especially these days. Most newcomers are either told by staffers, their friends or the internet that Marines are newbie friendly. Once they've started, a lot of people are reluctant to commit to other armies because it's so expensive to get started. It's no surprise that Marines are a self-fulfilling prophecy when it comes to popularity. It's probably also why almost all new AoS players have some small Stormcast force, but those who came in from WHFB often tend not to, even if they aren't using their old army.

it's not only that- you have to basically have an aversion to marines because if they aren't pushed on you, the ease of finding them second hand combined with how much constant support they get makes them so hard to ignore. the only reason i don't have a marine force is a rule that hasn't broken to never have any- and even then, ive come close over the years to almost do grey knights, death watch, and imperial fists. i never had the issue with GW staffers, because I always came in clearly looking for something specific, or asking about sisters before they got the plastic release.

when most of the armies you like are left unsupported for years, or only have enough different models for one or two variations on a list (why im looking through aeronautica for my pure tempestus idea in case i missed something, for example) you start thinking "screw it, why not buy some, so i can at least look forward to something more often."

Looks like the veterans have a storm shield, power sword, and volkite pistol of some sort.

You know he's making 'pew pew' noises under his helmet.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:


Looks like the veterans have a storm shield, power sword, and volkite pistol of some sort.

I notice the helmet is also a MK3 styled helmet. which is nice as I mixed some MKII helmets in with my primaris army already so they'll fit nicely.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:


Looks like the veterans have a storm shield, power sword, and volkite pistol of some sort.

That's a LT. It looks like there is a Captain with the shield with a skeleton on it, and a unit of 3 with a Veteran SGT:

wondering if tilting shields are how primaris mark out veterns.

What exactly is a volkite pistol. Not familiar with it.

SirGrotzalot wrote:
What exactly is a volkite pistol. Not familiar with it.

I dunno what the rules for iut where like but IIRC they where high damage "heat beams" that where not that great vs armor. so I'd expect high str, 2 or 3 dmg, several shots, and no armor pen.

SirGrotzalot wrote:
What exactly is a volkite pistol. Not familiar with it.

It's a 30K weapon - I think they are like heat rays. Tartarus Terminators can carry a Volkite Charger in 40K. They have a weird 40K profile right now - Heavy 2 with a 15" range, Str 5, Damage 2 and no AP.

SirGrotzalot wrote:
What exactly is a volkite pistol. Not familiar with it.

Heresy tech.

Volkite is on the Techpriest Dominus, when you make a Wound of 6+ it causes a Mortal Wound in addition to normal damage.

 Kanluwen wrote:

SirGrotzalot wrote:
What exactly is a volkite pistol. Not familiar with it.

Heresy tech.

Volkite is on the Techpriest Dominus, when you make a Wound of 6+ it causes a Mortal Wound in addition to normal damage.

I'd clarify it's Heresy era tech.

IIRC it was the weapon of choice of Mars before the Mechanicum allied with the Emperor. It got phased out as the Heresy timeline progressed because bolters are easier to build/maintain.

These (rather nice) primaris figures will probably burry the regular marines into
some kind of "legacy" status during 9th life span.

mortar_crew wrote:
These (rather nice) primaris figures will probably burry the regular marines into
some kindof "legacy" status during 9th life span.

people said that when dark Imperium was being shown off

The most important thing about Volkite is that in the ‘86-‘90s rogue trader artwork the marines would have weird radiation guns and GW finally made models and rules for them in like 2009.

 ScarletRose wrote:

I'd clarify it's Heresy era tech.

IIRC it was the weapon of choice of Mars before the Mechnicum allied with the Emperor. It got phased out as the Heresy timeline progressed because bolters are easier to build/maintain.

Crusade era, even

BrianDavion wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:
These (rather nice) primaris figures will probably burry the regular marines into
some kindof "legacy" status during 9th life span.

people said that when dark Imperium was being shown off

Right? Even the Assault Intercessors don't completely burry Assault Marines because Assault Marines can take jump packs, have different weapon choices, etc. Same goes for the bikes. Special weapons keep Bike squads relevant.

Now, if Assault Intercessors CAN take Jump Packs and NuBikes CAN take Special Weapons, things might be a little different.

BrianDavion wrote:

mortar_crew wrote:
These (rather nice) primaris figures will probably burry the regular marines into
some kindof "legacy" status during 9th life span.

people said that when dark Imperium was being shown off

Granted.
But vanguard stuff alone for example will not qualify to replace regular marines,
CC primaris, bikes will replace their equivalent.

Don't get me wrong: as much as I disliked the primaris vanguard with more "modern"
stuff and fancy names, I find these interesting development.

I have to say, that robe is bugging me. Why is it under his chest armor, but over his pants? All the way in or all the way out, bro.

 Ouze wrote:
I have to say, that robe is bugging me. Why is it under his chest armor, but over his pants? All the way in or all the way out, bro.

I assume it's the robe he wears everyday, so it's not sized to fit over his armour, so the chestplate it buckled in place over it.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I have to say, that robe is bugging me. Why is it under his chest armor, but over his pants? All the way in or all the way out, bro.

I assume it's the robe he wears everyday, so it's not sized to fit over his armour, so the chestplate it buckled in place over it.

He has belly armour. It's over the top of his belly armour, and underneath his chest armour. It's woven between the two. It's quite silly.

 Ghaz wrote:
Or that the Sisters codex is completely compatible with 9th and was designed with that edition in mind.

So the Sisters 'dex has the new "blast" rule?

 Latro_ wrote:
Higher res of marine stuff if not already posted

I'm dubious that this is the actual Marine starter set. The last time GW put out a big box the Marine side had 10 guys and Ragnar. This one appears to have 10 Marines, 3 Shield Vets, 3 Agressor Devs, 3 Bikers, a Lieutenant, a Chaplain, an Ancient, a Captain and the Executioner guy. That's... a lot more.

JWBS wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I have to say, that robe is bugging me. Why is it under his chest armor, but over his pants? All the way in or all the way out, bro.

I assume it's the robe he wears everyday, so it's not sized to fit over his armour, so the chestplate it buckled in place over it.

He has belly armour. It's over the top of his belly armour, and underneath his chest armour. It's woven between the two. It's quite silly.

The gut plates could be part of the soft armour undersuit. We know Phobos is a stripped down version of the Tacticus armour, and the plates could be part of that soft armour instead of the torso armour.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Or that the Sisters codex is completely compatible with 9th and was designed with that edition in mind.

So the Sisters 'dex has the new "blast" rule?

 Latro_ wrote:
Higher res of marine stuff if not already posted

I'm dubious that this is the actual Marine starter set. The last time GW put out a big box the Marine side had 10 guys and Ragnar. This one appears to have 10 Marines, 3 Shield Vets, 3 Agressor Devs, 3 Bikers, a Lieutenant, a Chaplain, an Ancient, a Captain and the Executioner guy. That's... a lot more.

Sisters never had blast weapons in the past. Not giving them back wouldn't be a shock.

That said, it's likely a one line errata to give it to the anti-personnel missiles.

i badly failed my Grim-Dark-fu .

I thought that monolith was the apocalypse one in closed form hehe.

didnt realize its new ...

SF

 Ouze wrote:
I have to say, that robe is bugging me. Why is it under his chest armor, but over his pants? All the way in or all the way out, bro.

I bet he tucks his T-shirt into his undies during gym class too, what a dorkus!

I also believe that is just too much stuff to be in a single starter set, but I’d love to be wrong. S.R. Hadden: “First rule in government spending: why build one when you can have two at twice the price?“

Pretty keen on the new models. I always like it when a non-marine army gets a big overhaul...it’s good for the game.

I am happy the Primaris are finally moving into normal SM territory. I know GW’s been cautious about the relatively obvious fact that in the grim darkness of the future, there will only be Primaris Marine releases, but it’s time. I have boxes and boxes of Marines, back through RT and 2nd edition days. But I’m never going to build any more of them again because the proportions have been fixed now and I can’t go back. And I hate the Primaris lore, clumsily Frankenstein-ed into the universe in order to ease the transition to redoing the signature 40K line after many players have spent thousands of dollars over two decades (or more). I just build Primaris as Astartes and move on, telling my stupid little war stories.

I admit that I very much do NOT like the tabard on the vets between the chest piece and the belt. Very ratty. I do like that the Primaris Vet LT keeps his chastity belt key on his inner shield, though. Always be ready, my player.

More Chaplains are always wonderful. And I quite like this one. I want to like the Executioner more than I do. I think a new head will do wonders. Assault Intercessors look great. Clean and sharp.