40k 9th edition, : App released page 413

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**Gadzilla666**

Dudeface wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
bullyboy wrote:
I am curious what the new terrain rules and what "cover" means in 9th. The harlequin release has an ability for a Shadowseer to give "cover" to units within 6" of her. Since most harlequins (barring vehicles and skyweavers) only have a 6+ save and a 4+ invuln, it's a pretty useless bonus.....unless "cover" does something differently in 9th

Yep. I just hope they don't tie EVERYTHING up into cover or armies and units that have "ignore cover" may wind up being a liiiiiittle bit bonkers.

Well given it's been the booby prize faction bonus of the edition so far I'd not be against it being worth something now.

Um, you have seen the Word Bearers and Night Lords faction rules haven't you?

**Dudeface**

Gadzilla666 wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
bullyboy wrote:
I am curious what the new terrain rules and what "cover" means in 9th. The harlequin release has an ability for a Shadowseer to give "cover" to units within 6" of her. Since most harlequins (barring vehicles and skyweavers) only have a 6+ save and a 4+ invuln, it's a pretty useless bonus.....unless "cover" does something differently in 9th

Yep. I just hope they don't tie EVERYTHING up into cover or armies and units that have "ignore cover" may wind up being a liiiiiittle bit bonkers.

Well given it's been the booby prize faction bonus of the edition so far I'd not be against it being worth something now.

Um, you have seen the Word Bearers and Night Lords faction rules haven't you?

Oh they do compete for bottom of the barrel don't worry. But at least they probably kick in more often even if actually as useless.

**ClockworkZion**

New Box art:

**Voss**

Eh. Why in the world is it mostly dead white space?

And the Marine has an oddly dinky head, and is oddly posed- like he's going to be sweeping Necron Lilliputians

**Pahil**

Voss wrote:
Eh. Why in the world is it mostly dead white space?

Its really washed out here, there is actually detail in it Screaming faces in alcoves in fact.

Edit for spelling

**ClockworkZion**

Voss wrote:
Eh. Why in the world is it mostly dead white space?

Probably so there is room on the box for any logos and the like.

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So according to Stu, 9th ed work started in late 2018, which means they spent quite some time working on this new edition.

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Core rulebook art:

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Better box image from WHC:

No washed out details like on the steam.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

**MaxT**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

**Aash**

Was there any rules news in today’s stream or was it just the reveal of the box art?

**Marshal Loss**

Aash wrote:
Was there any rules news in today’s stream or was it just the reveal of the box art?

Just art, back to rules tomorrow

**MaxT**

Aash wrote:
Was there any rules news in today’s stream or was it just the reveal of the box art?

I’m afraid there’s 24 hours of argument about pixel placement and colouration ahead of us

**ClockworkZion**

MaxT wrote:
Aash wrote:
Was there any rules news in today’s stream or was it just the reveal of the box art?

I’m afraid there’s 24 hours of argument about pixel placement and colouration ahead of us

There seemed to be some color correction on the stream version that washed out the background.

**H.B.M.C.**

So 40K Today was about nothing?

**Aash**

Very disappointing, waiting over the weekend for the next reveal and it turns out there isn’t one. Hopefully tomorrow’s is something interesting.

**Asmodai**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
So 40K Today was about nothing?

They had one fewer guest than usual, so it may have been filler to cover for the intended content being unavailable. The various technical glitches (e.g. the slide show being out of order), lack of the usual promo posts on Facebook and Twitter and slightly delayed start support that hypothesis.

**ClockworkZion**

No new rules content, but hearing about a more unified art direction that leans more towards the feel of Blanche's work is nice.

Has a lot of the quality of the art in 6th and 7th I liked.

Hearing the timeline on 9th gives me some hope that they really diales it in like they claim they did.

**Mr Morden**

I like the box image but not the cover, Abaddon does not look good.

**Slayer-Fan123**

MaxT wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

If that were the case you'd find the AdMech points pretty low with an Intercessor compared to the Calvary or flying guys, so yes they're lying through their teeth.

**ClockworkZion**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

If that were the case you'd find the AdMech points pretty low with an Intercessor compared to the Calvary or flying guys, so yes they're lying through their teeth.

Different editions with different points costs. 9th will be messing with points quite a bit so I wouldn't be surprised to see some of that addressed.

Also the timeline fits with what we know of their regular dev time, so I fail to see how they could be lying here.

**BrianDavion**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

If that were the case you'd find the AdMech points pretty low with an Intercessor compared to the Calvary or flying guys, so yes they're lying through their teeth.

or they pointed the thing for 8th edition because they're adjusting the points for everything when 9th edition hits.

do you ever get tired of being so relentless negative? maybe you should go find a game you actually enjoy? all this hate and bile can't be good for you

**tneva82**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

If that were the case you'd find the AdMech points pretty low with an Intercessor compared to the Calvary or flying guys, so yes they're lying through their teeth.

Why? Points are redone for all. Points in book can't be same for both and remember book was made to work with 8ted as well.

Just because rules work w/9th ed in mind doesn't mean points have to be same. That would make them overpriced for 8th

**argonak**

So, is this likely to Dark Imperium pricing, or Necromunda Dark Uprising pricing?

**ClockworkZion**

argonak wrote:
So, is this likely to Dark Imperium pricing, or Necromunda Dark Uprising pricing?

We don't know how much it'll cost, but we all hope it won't be Blood of the Pheonix pricing.

**Kharne the Befriender**

argonak wrote:
So, is this likely to Dark Imperium pricing, or Necromunda Dark Uprising pricing?

I have a gut feeling it'll be about 200USD

**AngryAngel80**

I'm going to say 250$ USD, just tossing that out there.

**Danny76**

Whatever the dollar equivalent of £120 is.
Due to the newsletter prize thing?

When is that closing date?

**Sasori**

Kharne the Befriender wrote:
argonak wrote:
So, is this likely to Dark Imperium pricing, or Necromunda Dark Uprising pricing?

I have a gut feeling it'll be about 200USD

Yeah, this lines up with the price "leaks" so far.

**Slayer-Fan123**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

If that were the case you'd find the AdMech points pretty low with an Intercessor compared to the Calvary or flying guys, so yes they're lying through their teeth.

Different editions with different points costs. 9th will be messing with points quite a bit so I wouldn't be surprised to see some of that addressed.

Also the timeline fits with what we know of their regular dev time, so I fail to see how they could be lying here.

They could've messed with those points with the newest Awakening books then instead of what they're attempting in order to make it a partly wasted purchase. It's GW quickly invalidating printed material as per usual for the last couple of editions.

**Kharne the Befriender**

Sasori wrote:
Kharne the Befriender wrote:
argonak wrote:
So, is this likely to Dark Imperium pricing, or Necromunda Dark Uprising pricing?

I have a gut feeling it'll be about 200USD

Yeah, this lines up with the price "leaks" so far.

Yeah, because if the 120GBP prize they had is the actual price, which seems highly likely to me, then the conversion is about 152USD, then give GW they're Obligatory Price Increase(tm), then I figure 200 is a safe bet

**Soundtheory**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MaxT wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Stu can say all he wants but it's a lie and we know it just based on them saying the last few Awakening books were written with 9th in mind.

Eh? Started work doesn’t equal finished. They started on 9th late 2018, I.e. 18 months ago. The last few awakening books can be written with 9th in mind based on the progress they’d made in that time. In no way are these 2 statements contradictory.

If that were the case you'd find the AdMech points pretty low with an Intercessor compared to the Calvary or flying guys, so yes they're lying through their teeth.

Can you show us on the Primaris Lieutenant where GW touched you?

Honestly, try to relax, it's just a game.