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 Ghaz wrote:
Today on Warhammer 40,000 Daily they will be covering Psychic Awakening: Pariah:

Today's #New40K show takes a first look inside the cover of Psychic Awakening: Pariah.

Well biscuits. Guess we'll have to wait for today's faction focus for more 9th info.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Today on Warhammer 40,000 Daily they will be covering Psychic Awakening: Pariah:

Today's #New40K show takes a first look inside the cover of Psychic Awakening: Pariah.

Well biscuits. Guess we'll have to wait for today's faction focus for more 9th info.

....maybe. We could get a Codex Orks again.

why they are doing it like this is absolutely beyond me. "Huhurr did you know, this weapon is a Blast weapon!" Yeah GW we know.

the_scotsman wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Today on Warhammer 40,000 Daily they will be covering Psychic Awakening: Pariah:

Today's #New40K show takes a first look inside the cover of Psychic Awakening: Pariah.

Well biscuits. Guess we'll have to wait for today's faction focus for more 9th info.

....maybe. We could get a Codex Orks again.

why they are doing it like this is absolutely beyond me. "Huhurr did you know, this weapon is a Blast weapon!" Yeah GW we know.

Most of it seems to be aimed at new players, or people unfamiliar with various armies. Think of it more as a sales pitch about how great a given army is more than a sneak peak for 9th and it makes more sense.

I think they may have left themselves a little too much time to fill between the announcement and the release of 9th. It felt like they were scraping the barrel at times last week but now they've just decided to abandon their 9th edition previews altogether. Not sure who's doing their marketing strategy but I'd argue the Monday and Friday shows are the ones where you really want to get some juicy info out there: give people something to talk about over the weekend to keep momentum going and get people excited for the week ahead with some cool new info. They seem to be doing the opposite and putting all the really dull content on those days.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Most of it seems to be aimed at new players, or people unfamiliar with various armies. Think of it more as a sales pitch about how great a given army is more than a sneak peak for 9th and it makes more sense.

"The new rules also apply to this army! WOW!" isn't especially useful to anyone, new or otherwise.

the_scotsman wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Today on Warhammer 40,000 Daily they will be covering Psychic Awakening: Pariah:

Today's #New40K show takes a first look inside the cover of Psychic Awakening: Pariah.

Well biscuits. Guess we'll have to wait for today's faction focus for more 9th info.

....maybe. We could get a Codex Orks again.

why they are doing it like this is absolutely beyond me. "Huhurr did you know, this weapon is a Blast weapon!" Yeah GW we know.

And vehicles can shoot while locked in close combat now! Can you believe that vehicles can shoot while locked in close combat? If you didn't know, vehicles can shoot while locked in close combat!

Slipspace wrote:
I think they may have left themselves a little too much time to fill between the announcement and the release of 9th. It felt like they were scraping the barrel at times last week but now they've just decided to abandon their 9th edition previews altogether. Not sure who's doing their marketing strategy but I'd argue the Monday and Friday shows are the ones where you really want to get some juicy info out there: give people something to talk about over the weekend to keep momentum going and get people excited for the week ahead with some cool new info. They seem to be doing the opposite and putting all the really dull content on those days.

Last week I assumed Monday and Friday's eps were filler since they started late and seemed to be trying to pad time.

This ep is at least tied to a new 40k release beyond just "look how pretty the new models are in colors that aren't Ultramarines Blue!", so I can't fault it, I just wanted more info for 9th right now. Though I have to say yesterday's announcement showed me that Pariah has no longevity for Necron players since they didn't put the new Necron units in the book, and a codex is coming sometime after the edition drops. Feels like a missed opportunity to me I guess.

It doesn't help that the few times GW has answered questions they avoid any of the hot button questions everyone has whenever they come up in the chat. I've watched them ignore people asking about something like Falling Back to answer a question like "will our codexes still be valid?"


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Most of it seems to be aimed at new players, or people unfamiliar with various armies. Think of it more as a sales pitch about how great a given army is more than a sneak peak for 9th and it makes more sense.

"The new rules also apply to this army! WOW!" isn't especially useful to anyone, new or otherwise.

I never said it was useful I just said that I think they're more like ads than anything intended to be useful.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Today on Warhammer 40,000 Daily they will be covering Psychic Awakening: Pariah:

Today's #New40K show takes a first look inside the cover of Psychic Awakening: Pariah.

Well biscuits. Guess we'll have to wait for today's faction focus for more 9th info.

....maybe. We could get a Codex Orks again.

why they are doing it like this is absolutely beyond me. "Huhurr did you know, this weapon is a Blast weapon!" Yeah GW we know.

Most of it seems to be aimed at new players, or people unfamiliar with various armies. Think of it more as a sales pitch about how great a given army is more than a sneak peak for 9th and it makes more sense.

Rubbish. 'Things you don't know about are changing,' isn't useful for new players.
Especially given how much of the article is structured around getting existing players to go out and buy units X, Y and Z because they were previously neglected and now a gun on one of them has blast.

yukishiro1 wrote:

JWBS wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:


Well, no, that isn't literally or figuratively what he said, nor is that what I said. But I'm not interested in getting into a sniping match over a straw man.

Indeed not literal, that was me being mildly flippant (indicated by the fact it wasn't literal). You did say it was "such a weird thing", and on so many levels, no less, indicating to you that you're more than a little in his head ("so much"). And if I was wrong to interpret his post as an observation about people complaining, it's very odd that you wrote "you make a post complaining about complaining", isn't it? So no, not remotely a straw man. Anyway, if you genuinely want more civility and less sniping I'd recommend you avoid making such exaggerated proclamations.

Like I said, I'm not interested into getting into it, with you or with him. Please look elsewhere if you want to provoke somebody, you're not going to get it here. I shouldn't have responded to him either.

Disagreement is provocation. Got it.

No rules for Sisters or Necrons beyond the characters.

Whelp, this is kind of sad. Really expected something for Necrons. Zero reason for me to pick this up now.


I'm hoping that means that the Necron codex won't be on as long as timeline as Deathguard was in 8th.

Yeah I guess I'll just be grabbing Illuminor for now. Shame, was hoping for a few stopgap rules like a build your dynasty rules or something.

 Asmodai wrote:


No rules for Sisters or Necrons beyond the characters.

Oh well money saved for now.

IanVanCheese wrote:
Yeah I guess I'll just be grabbing Illuminor for now. Shame, was hoping for a few stopgap rules like a build your dynasty rules or something.

His rules may only be in Pariah and not in the Necron Codex though. It'll be awhile until we know that though.

Faction Focus: Craftworlds

 Asmodai wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:
Yeah I guess I'll just be grabbing Illuminor for now. Shame, was hoping for a few stopgap rules like a build your dynasty rules or something.

His rules may only be in Pariah and not in the Necron Codex though. It'll be awhile until we know that though.

Not a chance they leave him out of the codex.

IanVanCheese wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

IanVanCheese wrote:
Yeah I guess I'll just be grabbing Illuminor for now. Shame, was hoping for a few stopgap rules like a build your dynasty rules or something.

His rules may only be in Pariah and not in the Necron Codex though. It'll be awhile until we know that though.

Not a chance they leave him out of the codex.

Yeah, his rules will surely be in the codex. Especially since that is the only Necron rules they included in Pariah.

So, looks like no new info today besides that one secondary objective. I thought the acrobatic grace thing may have been a rule they added to Banshees to make them not trash, but nope, don't be silly lol, it's a "preview" of the rule Shining Spears have had since the index...

These aren't Previews, these are Reviews.

Was anything interesting mentioned in the stream today ?

Definitely a weak book overall, even more so when you realize there is plenty of room for Harlequin or Deathwatch content there. What a really strange decision.

Do they put datasheets in the boxes for new units? I want Szeras model but I'm not buying a book for one datasheet.

the_scotsman wrote:
So, looks like no new info today besides that one secondary objective. I thought the acrobatic grace thing may have been a rule they added to Banshees to make them not trash, but nope, don't be silly lol, it's a "preview" of the rule Shining Spears have had since the index...

Did they ever really say it's a "preview" with regards to Aerobatic Grace? Felt more like one of those pesky "Hey, this is a thing that this unit in this faction has!" bits.

Not necessarily "new" info, but I felt like these were actually fairly informative bits:

The best thing for Craftworlds in the new edition is that you only need to include one Detachment to get the most Command points for your army. This not only nets you more Command points than you used to have, but ensures you’re now also on an even footing with other factions that could easily generate more in the past.

I think that the point increases will initially challenge players as they try to fit in all of the units they previously fielded. It’s important to remember that every faction is feeling similar increases though, so it’s not a problem unique to you! I also suspect that, although the Craftworlds army is great when fielding a single Detachment, some players will miss the advantages of cherry-picking units from various craftworlds. A thing to keep in mind is that most competitive Craftworlds armies used to only start with 8-10 Command points, so if you really feel you need those Saim-Hann Shining Spears along with your Alaitoc Rangers, consider taking the secondary Craftworld in a Patrol Detachment alongside your main host.

Standard caveat of the points increases may vary but it was a bit nice to get a bit of insight that wasn't just from the studio about Command Points and Detachments.

Hey guys! Guys! Guys!!!

Did you know that the new general rules that apply to everyone also apply to Craftworld forces??? WOW!

And I can't be the only one who thought the Shining Spear pic should have had the caption "These have not aged well!". It's gotto be driving someone at GW HQ nuts that they have to keep the old Eldar Jetbike in production just because of these gimps. Why they didn't update the Spears at the same time they did the regular bikes I will never understand...

Moosatronic Warrior wrote:
Do they put datasheets in the boxes for new units? I want Szeras model but I'm not buying a book for one datasheet.

They should have his rules in there. They usually come within the instructions, before the paint guide. I don't see Szeras being a blister.

Multibuild kits now tend to be a bit simplified and only have whatever the box cover is. My Serberys Raiders had rules for only the Raiders, telling you to refer to the codex(ha!) for the Sulphurhounds and "full rules" for the Raiders.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hey guys! Guys! Guys!!!

Did you know that the new general rules that apply to everyone also apply to Craftworld forces??? WOW!

And I can't be the only one who thought the Shining Spear pic should have had the caption "These have not aged well!". It's gotto be driving someone at GW HQ nuts that they have to keep the old Eldar Jetbike in production just because of these gimps. Why they didn't update the Spears at the same time they did the regular bikes I will never understand...

Golly gee wilikers you mean the Craftworlds will have to follow the rules for once and won't just ignore them to break the game again?

 bullyboy wrote:
Definitely a weak book overall, even more so when you realize there is plenty of room for Harlequin or Deathwatch content there. What a really strange decision.

They did confirm that Deathwatch will be one of the first dexes, along with Necrons. That may be why.

That could also indicate that Harlies may be in the same group?

Craftworld having to actually follow core rules for once is actually REAL news hah hah. But that would invalidate their whole codex then, wouldn't it ?

Other "real" news IMHO: No blast for night spinners ? (i thought they would get it)

 Sasori wrote:
Whelp, this is kind of sad. Really expected something for Necrons. Zero reason for me to pick this up now.


I'm hoping that means that the Necron codex won't be on as long as timeline as Deathguard was in 8th.

Stu said as much in the stream. Said it didn't make sense to put new rules in the PA book and then turn around and release the new codex shortly afterwards.

I'm betting on Necron Codex in August.

Can someone explain Engage on all fronts to me in non-legalese?

Does one unit have to be in 3 table quarters to qualify?
If you have 3 units in three table quarters, does that count too, or do the three units have to each be spread across 3 table quarters?

Leggy wrote:
Can someone explain Engage on all fronts to me in non-legalese?

Does one unit have to be in 3 table quarters to qualify?
If you have 3 units in three table quarters, does that count too, or do the three units have to each be spread across 3 table quarters?

3 different units each in a different table quarter.