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 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Yeah, I voted "yes" because I thought the question was whether or not I'd buy the rulebook, which I will, but I have no interest in Necrons or loyalist marines. Especially not loyalist marines.

Exactly the same for me.

While the poll asks about buying the box, the Op says in the first post that "the purpose of this thread is to take a survey about plans to purchase the new edition that was announced on May 23rd."

I'll buy the box because I have Space Marines and will want the new book.

The Necrons are just a bonus that I've flirted with, but just really didn't like the look of some of their older kits and nasty finecast HQs.

Thematically I think they're pretty cool, and this update is all I needed to push me over the edge.

OK, so we will have to interpret the results to be a bit more ambiguous than intended, meaning either rulebook or new edition boxset.

Next time, I will do try to word things more exactly.
My fault. Anyways, I am still happy for the participation and results.

2/3 favorable for the new release, either way - I am interested in comparing with how people seem to feel after the release and all of the changes are explicit.

Day one purchase for me on the back of the models.


How interesting the missions, secondary objectives and Crusade format are will determine whether or not I sell the book and keep playing 3rd Edition. It'll have to be pretty impressive to get me playing "current" again.

I said no.

But on second thoughts I might buy a box or two if I can make a profit from it selling to Necron and marine players to buy some High elves/eldar stuff I actually want.

Calling out you being unable to create a reasonable poll isn't "aggression".

You constantly are making posts with polls. They're always this kind of skewed nonsense, despite people frequently pointing out how weird or the answers to the poll have no real applicability to what you're asking.

Take this thread:
"Will you purchase the new edition?"...and the poll is about the boxed set only?

How do you not see that the two aren't linked?

I plan on it, because I play both Necrons and Blood Angels. So assuming that it has some long, long awaited CC primaris marines, it's a no brainer for me!

If I only played one of the factions though, I probably wouldn't, unless I had a friend that was actively interested in the other half.

CC primaris marines on foot? LOL

Martel732 wrote:
CC primaris marines on foot? LOL

They will make good bases for more aggressively posed intercessors with autobolt rifles. I’ll probably pick up a full box (once it comes out) just for conversion work. Sometimes, you just need running marines.

The HQs are probably just buff bots, unless they change things. But cool looking with new gear options. SS’s are very welcome to the primaris line.

Unless things change drastically with the rules, basic guys with chainswords are very “Meh” mechanically. But who knows. if enough things break in their favor, they might be worth fielding.

(I’m not holding my breath, but will enjoy building/painting them)

Martel732 wrote:
CC primaris marines on foot? LOL

Or with headswaps and jump packs, wonderful Biggerized assault marines.

 Nevelon wrote:

They will make good bases for more aggressively posed intercessors with autobolt rifles. I’ll probably pick up a full box (once it comes out) just for conversion work. Sometimes, you just need running marines.

The HQs are probably just buff bots, unless they change things. But cool looking with new gear options. SS’s are very welcome to the primaris line.

Unless things change drastically with the rules, basic guys with chainswords are very “Meh” mechanically. But who knows. if enough things break in their favor, they might be worth fielding.

(I’m not holding my breath, but will enjoy building/painting them)

We already know that Astartes are getting their own classification of Chainswords. I'm sure someone might have the stats kicking around, but I want to say they were +1S with AP-1 or something like that?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

They will make good bases for more aggressively posed intercessors with autobolt rifles. I’ll probably pick up a full box (once it comes out) just for conversion work. Sometimes, you just need running marines.

The HQs are probably just buff bots, unless they change things. But cool looking with new gear options. SS’s are very welcome to the primaris line.

Unless things change drastically with the rules, basic guys with chainswords are very “Meh” mechanically. But who knows. if enough things break in their favor, they might be worth fielding.

(I’m not holding my breath, but will enjoy building/painting them)

We already know that Astartes are getting their own classification of Chainswords. I'm sure someone might have the stats kicking around, but I want to say they were +1S with AP-1 or something like that?

I’ve seen a bunch of wishlisting, but nothing solid. I could see either the S or the AP, but asking for both is a bit much for a chainsword IMHO
Unless the pendulum shifts drastically, shooting is still the better option. And giving up the rifle is a big ask for these guys. How much can they pile on a basic guy to make up for that?
They need 2-4 things to break their way to make them viable. And there are a lot of things out there that are just unknowns at this point, so there is space for that to happen. But being footslogging infantry with nothing suggesting movement or deployment options make it a very steep uphill battle

Now they might pull a full kit with options not on the monopose guys. All it would take would be grav chutes or graple guns to give them some deployment options. Starting 9” away is a lot better then 24”

As I said, there are a lot of things that could happen to make these guys playable. I suspect they will get one or two. The question is will it be enough.

I’ve decided to work up a primaris battle company, so will have a place for these guys and they will see the table. But I’m a fluffy, more casual guy. So having a little slack in my list is not the end of the world.

All I know is they took great pains to call it out as "Astartes Chainsword" rather than simply "Chainsword". I could have sworn there was a bit in the Potato Cam stream or the Studio Q&A that week which had it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
All I know is they took great pains to call it out as "Astartes Chainsword" rather than simply "Chainsword". I could have sworn there was a bit in the Potato Cam stream or the Studio Q&A that week which had it.

I recall the nod for it being bigger and better then normal chainswords, but no crunch to go with the fluff. I suspect it will be a +1 to S or AP, or a proc on a 6. If we get lucky, 2 of those. If the stars align, all 3. But not holding my breath on that.

100% getting into the new edition.

As for the new models... I'd say a solid maybe. I like them, but I have a massive pile of shame to catch up.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
All I know is they took great pains to call it out as "Astartes Chainsword" rather than simply "Chainsword". I could have sworn there was a bit in the Potato Cam stream or the Studio Q&A that week which had it.

I recall the nod for it being bigger and better then normal chainswords, but no crunch to go with the fluff. I suspect it will be a +1 to S or AP, or a proc on a 6. If we get lucky, 2 of those. If the stars align, all 3. But not holding my breath on that.

I’ve a similar dim recollection of them being described as Astartes Chainsword.

I'd like to think the whole Astartes pre-fix to a nod to Allo Allo where all of one characters gadgets had a certain prefix (skirting around naming names in case the comedically challenged wilfully misunderstand)

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
I'd like to think the whole Astartes pre-fix to a nod to Allo Allo where all of one characters gadgets had a certain prefix (skirting around naming names in case the comedically challenged wilfully misunderstand)

kreigsmarine admiral von sinkenkwiken?
or air marshal flockenstofen?

or perhaps you refer to von smallhausen of the gestapo

or are you directly talking about equipment ?

One of the best british comedies, right up there with black adder, red dwarf and faulty towers in my book.

Interestingly, results have swung negative since the contents reveal...

The chainswords were described as Astartes chainswords on the original reveal stream. I'd bet on them getting -1AP to match the Heavy Bolt Pistol stats.

My bet is on "Ironhail Chainswords".

Maybe Astartes Chainswords become loyalist Chainaxes.