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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
150 is gross, but thats why we have discounts and such

It puts him on par with both Magnus and Mortarion who are $150. It's the extra $10 for the codex that's

Yeah the model prices are about where I'd expected, its the hardback codex cost increase that I don't like. AT this rate we'll be spending £50 soon enough for regular codex without a fancy cover

Huh. So if that Quantum Shielding rule holds up for units instead of terrain, that's a 5+ invulnerable and only wounded on a 4+ regardless of the strength of the weapon to strike.

Wonder if the Canoptek Destroyer, which we know has a 5+, will get the "Only wounded on a 4+" as well? Might make up for being such a ludicoursly-large target...

All I can say is that the Crusade material better be worth the price increase!

 Ghaz wrote:
All I can say is that the Crusade material better be worth the price increase!

In fairness to GW when I look back at the £12 codex of yesteryear they are a LOT thinner and softbacks. The new codex have a lot more lore, a lot more art, are full colour start to end and are chunkier all round even before you add in new pages for new models.

 Ghaz wrote:
All I can say is that the Crusade material better be worth the price increase!

It has the digital edition code in as well, although it remains to be seen if that will need the subscription on top to be used.

 Bosskelot wrote:

Spoiler:

Potential hint at how QS might be changing. This is for the Pariah Nexus missions, but it might indicate how QS itself works too now.

I think a QS is different from a QS Generator but, you never know.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
150 is gross, but thats why we have discounts and such

It puts him on par with both Magnus and Mortarion who are $150. It's the extra $10 for the codex that's

Considering that like 50% of the model is two giant identical shields I will contend that no, its the price for the Silent King is

 Sim-Life wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
150 is gross, but thats why we have discounts and such

It puts him on par with both Magnus and Mortarion who are $150. It's the extra $10 for the codex that's

Considering that like 50% of the model is two giant identical shields I will contend that no, its the price for the Silent King is

Nah, seems fair in the context that he's a massive special character/unit you'll only ever want 1 of and has a lot of sprues I'd imagine.

Despite the fact he comes with the big shields which might be dull, he's clearly in the same ball park as the primarchs. Its like saying that magnus price is bull because he's 50% hair and wings.

More I think about it, even at £90 his £ to points ratio is probably still pretty solid as a guess.

If qs were such would be slight buff vs lascannon. Melta would get huge benefit which makes it more likely it is going to change like that.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
150 is gross, but thats why we have discounts and such

It puts him on par with both Magnus and Mortarion who are $150. It's the extra $10 for the codex that's

Thats reasonable then, for some reason I remember them being around 115$

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
150 is gross, but thats why we have discounts and such

It puts him on par with both Magnus and Mortarion who are $150. It's the extra $10 for the codex that's

Thats reasonable then, for some reason I remember them being around 115$

I think they were 115 at some point. Either that or the greater daemons were.


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 Overread wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
All I can say is that the Crusade material better be worth the price increase!

In fairness to GW when I look back at the £12 codex of yesteryear they are a LOT thinner and softbacks. The new codex have a lot more lore, a lot more art, are full colour start to end and are chunkier all round even before you add in new pages for new models.

Somehow many of the older books felt more substantive. . .

50 bones is a lot. The only saving grace is that because it's xenos, it likely won't be updated in one frakking year like the SM one.

If the price list is correct, I suspect we are going to start getting leaks this coming week, maybe we'll even get the full stat section like the Lumineth book. Worst case, we'll have man reads book on Saturday.

Either way, I'm pumped.

 Insectum7 wrote:

Somehow many of the older books felt more substantive. . .

50 bones is a lot. The only saving grace is that because it's xenos, it likely won't be updated in one frakking year like the SM one.

The only bonus in the old books was that they were much easier to read for building an army. Each model had its own segment, with each weapon option and profile listed and then the costs for taking each item listed below. Sure it meant some things were repeated, but it was easy. Now a days you have model on one page; weapons on another; items on another; wargear on another; points on another. Plus you have to flip back and forth to remember which upgrade items you are and are not allowed to take. GAH it makes it far more complex to build. The only bonus is that points are in a single table for reference, which honestly GW could put into the book AS WELL just as a reference point and then have it like it was in the old days.

 Overread wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

Somehow many of the older books felt more substantive. . .

50 bones is a lot. The only saving grace is that because it's xenos, it likely won't be updated in one frakking year like the SM one.

The only bonus in the old books was that they were much easier to read for building an army. Each model had its own segment, with each weapon option and profile listed and then the costs for taking each item listed below. Sure it meant some things were repeated, but it was easy. Now a days you have model on one page; weapons on another; items on another; wargear on another; points on another. Plus you have to flip back and forth to remember which upgrade items you are and are not allowed to take. GAH it makes it far more complex to build. The only bonus is that points are in a single table for reference, which honestly GW could put into the book AS WELL just as a reference point and then have it like it was in the old days.

Well, there were also all the customization options before the no-mode-no-rules era. . .

 Overread wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:

Somehow many of the older books felt more substantive. . .

50 bones is a lot. The only saving grace is that because it's xenos, it likely won't be updated in one frakking year like the SM one.

The only bonus in the old books was that they were much easier to read for building an army. Each model had its own segment, with each weapon option and profile listed and then the costs for taking each item listed below. Sure it meant some things were repeated, but it was easy. Now a days you have model on one page; weapons on another; items on another; wargear on another; points on another. Plus you have to flip back and forth to remember which upgrade items you are and are not allowed to take. GAH it makes it far more complex to build. The only bonus is that points are in a single table for reference, which honestly GW could put into the book AS WELL just as a reference point and then have it like it was in the old days.

The old books also has a summary page at the back. This alone made them far superior to the current codexes.

They also had everything clearly separated into their different categories (Elites, Fast Attack etc) instead of mashing them all together and leaving you to play Guess The Symbology.

 CKO wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:

Spoiler:

Potential hint at how QS might be changing. This is for the Pariah Nexus missions, but it might indicate how QS itself works too now.

I think a QS is different from a QS Generator but, you never know.

honestly if thats how QS is going to work now I like it. seems fairly intuative. once you get a handle on it. 5 up invul and you need at least a 4 no matter weapon str to harm it.

BrianDavion wrote:

 CKO wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:

Spoiler:

Potential hint at how QS might be changing. This is for the Pariah Nexus missions, but it might indicate how QS itself works too now.

I think a QS is different from a QS Generator but, you never know.

honestly if thats how QS is going to work now I like it. seems fairly intuative. once you get a handle on it. 5 up invul and you need at least a 4 no matter weapon str to harm it.

It would be a serious downgrade if this is how was worked minus being near an objective.

 Sasori wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 CKO wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:

Spoiler:

Potential hint at how QS might be changing. This is for the Pariah Nexus missions, but it might indicate how QS itself works too now.

I think a QS is different from a QS Generator but, you never know.

honestly if thats how QS is going to work now I like it. seems fairly intuative. once you get a handle on it. 5 up invul and you need at least a 4 no matter weapon str to harm it.

It would be a serious downgrade if this is how was worked minus being near an objective.

ohh yeah I'm assuming that the full ting would be how QS works all the time. 5+ invul and 1-3 always fails to wound.

Does that work for low str weapons as well? Or only weapons with high enough Str to warrant usually needing a 3 or 2 to wound being restricted to 4+?

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
Does that work for low str weapons as well? Or only weapons with high enough Str to warrant usually needing a 3 or 2 to wound being restricted to 4+?

Regardless of weapon STR, wound roll of 1-3 always fail.
However, low STR weapons usually wound on 4-6 anyway. So, the quantum shield doesn't effect must to them.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/27/sunday-preview-codexes-and-a-king/


Looks like it's all confirmed. Hopefully we start seeing the full leaks this week.

Those dice look nice. I won't buy them, but they look nice.

 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
Those dice look nice. I won't buy them, but they look nice.

I look forward to an awful lot of 'is that a 1 or a 6' each game.

 vipoid wrote:

 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
Those dice look nice. I won't buy them, but they look nice.

I look forward to an awful lot of 'is that a 1 or a 6' each game.

Comes up with my sisters dice as well, as long as you're consistent it doesn't matter really.

I can see me getting those Necron dice...

However, I gotta be real, I doubt they'll get used for 40k much

 vipoid wrote:

 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
Those dice look nice. I won't buy them, but they look nice.

I look forward to an awful lot of 'is that a 1 or a 6' each game.

Yeah. It'd be fine if it was one facing. Two is just annoying and asking for problems... even if its just the first big roll of the game.

Yep. If it had a single pip for a 1 and the Triarch for 6 Ide get a pile of them. 2 custom faces is just tiresome

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
Yep. If it had a single pip for a 1 and the Triarch for 6 Ide get a pile of them. 2 custom faces is just tiresome

My main complaint is the size of the skull: the new dice are very consistent in that skulls are 1s. It’s just why is the skull the whole side? Also the 6symbol is very noticeably more “open”. The marine dice are FAR worse in this case and I quite like these Necron dice (just like I love my Ork dice even if some opponents bitch about them).

The part of the article that talks about the Canoptek Doomstalker mentions that the weapon gets more powerful the further away the target is.

Probably more mistakes owing to them not knowing the actual rules, but in the off chance that it's not, could be interesting