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I hadnt thought of Szarekh being able to use the enslaved Ctans powers...interesting

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
I hadnt thought of Szarekh being able to use the enslaved Ctans powers...interesting

I suspected that might be the case, he's gonna be a fun char

BrianDavion wrote:

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
I hadnt thought of Szarekh being able to use the enslaved Ctans powers...interesting

I suspected that might be the case, he's gonna be a fun char

I am not convinced by those tiny green energy beams where he, and the Triarchal Menhirs, stand on. Looks like they will break of very easily. Also, center of gravity is pretty high, so they might fall over when touched.

Easy enough to attach additional supports. Ive done so on all my 'hover'vehicles and eitger disguised them as flotsam or painted dead black like the base

 Sasori wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Whats the likelihood our C'tan powers change?

It'd be nice for it to feel like a real choice rather than 6 types of smite.

Maybe even some buffing ones? But I feel a star god would be hard pressed to help its enslavers

Very likely. We've got 2 good powers, and the rest range from really bad, to mediocre.

With the Void Dragon, and likely the Silent King being able to use Silent kings I expect an overhaul and more powers.

I think at this point it's more of a question of what didn't change, as so far nearly every single weapon and datasheet has. Tesla Carbines and Gauss flayers are about the only thing that appears to have not changed! haha.

Man, seeing the new ctans spear just makes me wish GW would allow themselves to climb out of the teeny tiny box labeled "mortal wounds" that they stuffed themselves into in 8th for psychic powers.

Every single fething offensive power feels EXACTLY THE SAME, because of course MWs are a mechanic that has to be strictly limited! You can't have an antihorde psychic power, you can't have an antitank psychic power, because if you did it would absolutely DEMOLISH elite infantry because none of the games normal established limits fething apply to mortal wounds.

the_scotsman wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Whats the likelihood our C'tan powers change?

It'd be nice for it to feel like a real choice rather than 6 types of smite.

Maybe even some buffing ones? But I feel a star god would be hard pressed to help its enslavers

Very likely. We've got 2 good powers, and the rest range from really bad, to mediocre.

With the Void Dragon, and likely the Silent King being able to use Silent kings I expect an overhaul and more powers.

I think at this point it's more of a question of what didn't change, as so far nearly every single weapon and datasheet has. Tesla Carbines and Gauss flayers are about the only thing that appears to have not changed! haha.

Man, seeing the new ctans spear just makes me wish GW would allow themselves to climb out of the teeny tiny box labeled "mortal wounds" that they stuffed themselves into in 8th for psychic powers.

Every single fething offensive power feels EXACTLY THE SAME, because of course MWs are a mechanic that has to be strictly limited! You can't have an antihorde psychic power, you can't have an antitank psychic power, because if you did it would absolutely DEMOLISH elite infantry because none of the games normal established limits fething apply to mortal wounds.

Nice to know I'm not the only one who'd fed up with a million variations on 'do d3 Mortal Wounds'.

That said, the other aspect is that the C'tan powers also don't attempt to do anything besides Mortal Wounds. At least psychic powers also have stuff like buffs and debuffs. Could we not have a C'tan power that reduces an enemy's movement? Maybe one that removes Fly from any unit bar an actual Flier? Maybe one that prevents Overwatch? (To an extent, these would be mirroring many of the old Cryptek powers). Just stuff other than bloody Mortal bloody Wounds.

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
Easy enough to attach additional supports. Ive done so on all my 'hover'vehicles and eitger disguised them as flotsam or painted dead black like the base

Right, i pay ~130€ and have to do additional work ?

Just because they look unstable doesn't necessarily mean that they are. Mortarion is only held up by three swirly parts of his cloak and they are probably the least likely part of the model to break.

 p5freak wrote:

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
Easy enough to attach additional supports. Ive done so on all my 'hover'vehicles and eitger disguised them as flotsam or painted dead black like the base

Right, i pay ~130€ and have to do additional work ?

You don't have to, but if you're concerned you could for peace of mind if you're concerned about the model being man handled.

 p5freak wrote:

-Ňecrontyr- wrote:
Easy enough to attach additional supports. Ive done so on all my 'hover'vehicles and eitger disguised them as flotsam or painted dead black like the base

Right, i pay ~130€ and have to do additional work ?

The silent king looks a lot more stable than bloodthirsters do honestly. and bloodthirsthers aren't that fragile anyway

Anyone remember those "leaked" rules?

Canoptek Plasmacyte would make a lot more sense with the new RP rules. Still not sure if it improves it for them.

And with the upcoming need of Noble character for the auras, a so called "canoptek node" would change things for sure.

 Jidmah wrote:
Just because they look unstable doesn't necessarily mean that they are. Mortarion is only held up by three swirly parts of his cloak and they are probably the least likely part of the model to break.

I was going to say the same thing. Pretty much every time a large model comes out, someone talks about some part of it being too easy to break, and they're almost always wrong. GW's plastic is surprisingly strong, and they really know what they're doing when it comes to the practical side of model design.

If you want to get silly you can have his Dais carried by a bunch of necron warriors

I'm pretty sure those leaked rules were confirmed fake, that being said, if we got something similar to what it shows the plasmacyte doing or the Canoptek Node that would be a pretty big boon

 EnTyme wrote:
I was going to say the same thing. Pretty much every time a large model comes out, someone talks about some part of it being too easy to break, and they're almost always wrong. GW's plastic is surprisingly strong, and they really know what they're doing when it comes to the practical side of model design.

Hmmm.
On one hand, yes, I built metal models that required you to bend the laws of physics (or use rods I guess) to keep together - so this lament always seems a bit weak.

On the other, those thin spindly bits often manage to catch on things when in transport, unless you create a bespoke cushion, which can be a bit awkward when the model is quite three dimensional. Its usually a problem with bits at the top of the model rather than at the base though.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
If you want to get silly you can have his Dais carried by a bunch of necron warriors

I'm pretty sure those leaked rules were confirmed fake, that being said, if we got something similar to what it shows the plasmacyte doing or the Canoptek Node that would be a pretty big boon

They're obviously fake, since the actual rules from Indomitus are quite different.

We might see some tweaks from the Indomitus version (like apparently separating out the plasmacyte as an independent model), but a major overhaul to the fake rules isn't going to happen.

Codex: Necrons – New Crusade Rules on Warhammer Community (and more Necron photos - in a new paint scheme):

I like the sound of the Malevolent Arcing strategem

Kind of underwhelmed by the Silent Kings rules on WarCom. The best thing about him looks to be his shields guns.

We don't have all his rules yet.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
We don't have all his rules yet.

What more would you expect that would make him worth the $150 and likely 400+pts?

 Sim-Life wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
We don't have all his rules yet.

What more would you expect that would make him worth the $150 and likely 400+pts?

I mean the article literally said we have more rules we haven't seen. I'd probably expect more for the bodyguards, the CTan stuck on top to do powers, and probably something else.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
We don't have all his rules yet.

What more would you expect that would make him worth the $150 and likely 400+pts?

I mean the article literally said we have more rules we haven't seen. I'd probably expect more for the bodyguards, the CTan stuck on top to do powers, and probably something else.

I also want to say at some point it was mentioned he would do something with Reanimation, but I could be wrong on that.

So is this proof that Tesla will only get their bonus hits on an unmodified 6 now?...

 Ghaz wrote:
So is this proof that Tesla will only get their bonus hits on an unmodified 6 now?...

Looks like it. No more Methodical Destruction + MWBD gimmick on an army full of Immortals.

With how easy it is to get -1 to hit now, it's probably for the better though.

I don't know if it's just me, but the colours make this look like a magic-eye picture.

 Sim-Life wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
We don't have all his rules yet.

What more would you expect that would make him worth the $150 and likely 400+pts?

The fact that in-game abilities should dictate $-price makes me sad

 vipoid wrote:

I don't know if it's just me, but the colours make this look like a magic-eye picture.

I almost disagreed at first, but then I looked at it some more, focusing on the 'reap-blades' to see if I could determine if there was a non-EZ build skorpekh destroyer kit hiding in there.
It took a lot longer than it should have to determine that no, there was not.

The bases are jumbled to the point they look like one solid game board, and the models are just one non-Euclidean edge highlight doubling back on itself endlessly.

And now my left eyeball is dried out and itchy.

 Sim-Life wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
We don't have all his rules yet.

What more would you expect that would make him worth the $150 and likely 400+pts?

he'll likely have c'tan powers, and likely will have some sort of aura ability.

 Sim-Life wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
We don't have all his rules yet.

What more would you expect that would make him worth the $150 and likely 400+pts?

In all fairness: the Dias alone is as big as the new monolith

torblind wrote:

The fact that in-game abilities should dictate $-price makes me sad

They don't. The price is high, because it is a large model that 1/20th of the player base MIGHT buy and if they do it will only be once.