Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion

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**Dudeface**

the_scotsman wrote:
Sure, what was the time gap between Codex: Eldar and the Eldar model release in 8th?

What was the time gap between Codex: Orks and the new Ghazghkull model?

Codex: Space Marines and the entire new Chaos Space Marine model range they put out?Boy, wouldn't there be egg on your face if you got a shiny new 8th edition Chaos Space Marine codex and then whatever 1 year later without warning they dropped a dozen odd new kits, most of which replaced core units you just bought for your new army!

GW previewing new things they will release with the rules for those things in advance of the release of the thing is a GOOD THING.

Being able to review the in-game stats for a unit prior to buying it and figure out where it fits into your army is a GOOD THING.

Wanting to use units or attend events using rules for models that can't be bought is bad.

**Sasori**

Kanluwen wrote:
Sasori wrote:
I expected more from these FAQs after an entire month.

Yeah, since there's been so many games to see what is or isn't frequently asked questions--I expected a huge list of things.

There are plenty of people out and about playing games.

I know that some of the Faction Discords have been emailing in questions to GW. On the Necron side, not being able to just answer some questions, especially about TSK, is annoying after a month.

**JWBS**

Kanluwen wrote:

JWBS wrote:Two months is very different to six months if we're talking in timescales of months. Like, appreciably, materially different. And if we have to be super exact (I didn't say this btw, I'm just a person that thinks two months is markedly different to six months), Codex WS was up for pre-order on the 9th of August https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/09/space-marines-preview-sons-of-the-great-khangw-homepage-post-1/, putting the release somewhere around the 13th of August 2019, which is mid August. According to you, IF was mid October. The amount of time separating the middle of August 2019 and the middle of October 2019, when calculated using Gregorian calendar commonly used in Britain and North America, is pretty much exactly two solar months.

Cool, then you're still off by a week or so since my post concerned preorder dates not releases. If you can google up the date for WS' supplement, I'm sure you can find the rest easy enough. I have zero interest in reposting stuff I've posted ad nauseum simply because people didn't believe there was a wider spread of time for these releases than they thought there was.

Off by a week, and yet still three weeks closer than you got. With your correction. My original was still markedly closer than your correction. That's weird, huh. Almost like your correction was entirely worthless. Your precision calculation, what with exact timings being of great import (your words, never said by me) was way further off base than the point you were attempting to correct. Excellent work.

The point remains that the Marine releases were dragged out in a significant manner that up until this year wasn't really the case from current GW.

Did something happen this year that might have had an effect on the release schedules? I think there might have been but I'm not sure. Maybe not. Maybe they're just fething with us. Or maybe something singular happened that makes this point a total non-point.

Additionally, it's worth mentioning since you brought up the "two isn't six" thing that the items we're waiting on now for the Marine book were previewed as far back as pre-COVID lockdowns. That's when we first saw the Gladiator.

Why is that worth noting? What does that have to do with the fact that two is definitely not six? Anything at all?

**tneva82**

Kanluwen wrote:
Sasori wrote:
I expected more from these FAQs after an entire month.

Yeah, since there's been so many games to see what is or isn't frequently asked questions--I expected a huge list of things.

.

Just because us has got things bad for gaming doesn't mean everywhere else has too. Plenty of games out there if you don't assume　us is only country that plays warhammer.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well that's annoying, my independent supplier has been told that he's probably not going to get any of the Deathguard Space Marine Heroes, despite putting in his order as soon as possible

(since I was the first in line for them I might just get lucky if he gets one)

the GW rep is claiming they sold them all online and aren't getting more (i'll be pissed of if true, I don't care if I have to wait for more to be made, that would be fine)

**MaxT**

Not technically a “new” release, but I’ve just had my shipping email confirmation for the made to order Indomitus boxed set from the GW webstore. Which is nice

**GaroRobe**

A bit random, but how long has Bjorn been gone? I can't find him or any iteration of the SW dreadnought or the wulfen on the US site. Now, I'm not going to weep if the wulfen are gone, but the lack of Bjorn is weird. He could be getting repacked, but you'd think that would have been released along with Ragnar

**Kanluwen**

They're being repackaged.

**Argive**

You guys remember the french guy dropping us all the rumours a while back about 2W cult CSM and a bunch of other stuff?
(We laughed about ts never going to happen and he be trollin... )

Seems a lot/most of those were on point if a year late in materialising. But credit where credit due.
Anyone remember what other rumours were milling around from that source ?

Or better still know where the posts / images are?

**BrianDavion**

Argive wrote:

You guys remember the french guy dropping us all the rumours a while back about 2W cult CSM and a bunch of other stuff?
(We laughed about ts never going to happen and he be trollin... )

Seems a lot/most of those were on point if a year late in materialising. But credit where credit due.
Anyone remember what other rumours were milling around from that source ?

Or better still know where the posts / images are?

sure except this isn't cult marines increasing to 2W it's "everyone" I mean assuming it's accurate most likely the decision process went along the lines of

"ok, let's try buffing CSMs up with 2 wound cult marines" *some play testing is done, this gets leaked* "well it's.. alright but not exceptional." "why not just make all marines 2 wounds?" "... I like that!"

**Argive**

BrianDavion wrote:
Argive wrote:

You guys remember the french guy dropping us all the rumours a while back about 2W cult CSM and a bunch of other stuff?
(We laughed about ts never going to happen and he be trollin... )

Seems a lot/most of those were on point if a year late in materialising. But credit where credit due.
Anyone remember what other rumours were milling around from that source ?

Or better still know where the posts / images are?

sure except this isn't cult marines increasing to 2W it's "everyone" I mean assuming it's accurate most likely the decision process went along the lines of

"ok, let's try buffing CSMs up with 2 wound cult marines" *some play testing is done, this gets leaked* "well it's.. alright but not exceptional." "why not just make all marines 2 wounds?" "... I like that!"

I feel it was pretty on point. 2W khorne berserkers will be a thing

I know some of the things was a new edition and Space wolves and Orks box which came to be..

I just cant remember what else was part of those leaks and these were a year out, and at this point I assume it was an actual roadmap from a meeting seeing how so many unlikely things have come to pass it cant bejust a troll and lucky guesses. Wana see that list and see what else might be in store

**BrianDavion**

Argive wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Argive wrote:

You guys remember the french guy dropping us all the rumours a while back about 2W cult CSM and a bunch of other stuff?
(We laughed about ts never going to happen and he be trollin... )

Seems a lot/most of those were on point if a year late in materialising. But credit where credit due.
Anyone remember what other rumours were milling around from that source ?

Or better still know where the posts / images are?

sure except this isn't cult marines increasing to 2W it's "everyone" I mean assuming it's accurate most likely the decision process went along the lines of

"ok, let's try buffing CSMs up with 2 wound cult marines" *some play testing is done, this gets leaked* "well it's.. alright but not exceptional." "why not just make all marines 2 wounds?" "... I like that!"

I feel it was pretty on point. 2W khorne berserkers will be a thing
I know some of the things was a new edition and Space wolves and Orks box which came to be..

I just cant remember what else was part of those leaks and these were a year out, and at this point I assume it was an actual roadmap from a meeting seeing how so many unlikely things have come to pass it cant bejust a troll and lucky guesses. Wana see that list and see what else might be in store

honestly the 2 wounds thing seems like a luckly guess, in hindsight it seems obvious

**Argive**

BrianDavion wrote:
Argive wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Argive wrote:

You guys remember the french guy dropping us all the rumours a while back about 2W cult CSM and a bunch of other stuff?
(We laughed about ts never going to happen and he be trollin... )

Seems a lot/most of those were on point if a year late in materialising. But credit where credit due.
Anyone remember what other rumours were milling around from that source ?

Or better still know where the posts / images are?

sure except this isn't cult marines increasing to 2W it's "everyone" I mean assuming it's accurate most likely the decision process went along the lines of

"ok, let's try buffing CSMs up with 2 wound cult marines" *some play testing is done, this gets leaked* "well it's.. alright but not exceptional." "why not just make all marines 2 wounds?" "... I like that!"

I feel it was pretty on point. 2W khorne berserkers will be a thing
I know some of the things was a new edition and Space wolves and Orks box which came to be..

I just cant remember what else was part of those leaks and these were a year out, and at this point I assume it was an actual roadmap from a meeting seeing how so many unlikely things have come to pass it cant bejust a troll and lucky guesses. Wana see that list and see what else might be in store

honestly the 2 wounds thing seems like a luckly guess, in hindsight it seems obvious

Hell no.. at the time people lost their minds how ridiculous it all sounded.
This was way back in 8th before SM 2.0 & supplaments I think.

**H.B.M.C.**

Wrong thread. Sorry.

**Semper**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Well that's annoying, my independent supplier has been told that he's probably not going to get any of the Deathguard Space Marine Heroes, despite putting in his order as soon as possible

(since I was the first in line for them I might just get lucky if he gets one)

the GW rep is claiming they sold them all online and aren't getting more (i'll be pissed of if true, I don't care if I have to wait for more to be made, that would be fine)

I emailed GW themselves and they confirmed the same. Apparently all sold out through GW and not coming back atm (they may pull an Indomitus?).

I did complain and say that nowhere on their marketing did they say this was a limited release. Awaiting any response (but what can they respond with?).

**Eldarsif**

Argive:

The original rumor was:

- Cult Troops like Plague Marines, Berserkers, noise Marines, Rubric Marines going to 2 wounds.
- CSM getting points reductions to match those of equivalent SM units.
- Lord Discordants and Plaguebearers likely going up in points.
- CSM Legions froms the CSM Codex will get new warlord traits and relics and stratagems in the upcoming supplements.

Basically a very lackluster rumor with the 2 wounds probably being the only thing that got people's attentions.

**tneva82**

And indeed point cost dropping　is incompatible since they are getting extra wound and point hike akin to loyal marines. So either rumour monger didn't have any real knowledge of new csm codex or he flat out lied about non-cult marines there.

New warlord traits etc meanwhile doesn't even require seeing new codex to know it is so. I can say that with full confidence myself

**Argive**

Eldarsif wrote:
Argive:

The original rumor was:

- Cult Troops like Plague Marines, Berserkers, noise Marines, Rubric Marines going to 2 wounds.
- CSM getting points reductions to match those of equivalent SM units.
- Lord Discordants and Plaguebearers likely going up in points.
- CSM Legions froms the CSM Codex will get new warlord traits and relics and stratagems in the upcoming supplements.

Basically a very lackluster rumor with the 2 wounds probably being the only thing that got people's attentions.

Fair enough. I guess my memory is failing me.
I thought I recalled a bunch of screenshots of stuff..

**MaxT**

MaxT wrote:
Not technically a “new” release, but I’ve just had my shipping email confirmation for the made to order Indomitus boxed set from the GW webstore. Which is nice

And it's arrived, I can now get excited like you lot did 4 months ago

**Kanluwen**

Death Guard terrain article

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**Jidmah**

That's... actually not too bad.

**MajorWesJanson**

Looks rather Tim Burtonesque

**Dudeface**

That's an (un)pleasant surprise they're showing that off so early.

What's predictions for the DG release?

We know there's the terrain, the daemon engine fella they previewed and currently no way to buy a lord of contagion or malignant plague caster. Seems a good chance to get rid of the finecast prince as well, so 4 characters and terrain maybe.

Given they're getting a daemon engine fella, might be a good chance to release a new engine or two to move them further away from csm as well.

**JWBS**

Combat patrol would be good but I don't expect one, seeing as there was so much DG around from the last 40k starter, and no SC DG.

**Semper**

Dudeface wrote:
That's an (un)pleasant surprise they're showing that off so early.

What's predictions for the DG release?

We know there's the terrain, the daemon engine fella they previewed and currently no way to buy a lord of contagion or malignant plague caster. Seems a good chance to get rid of the finecast prince as well, so 4 characters and terrain maybe.

Given they're getting a daemon engine fella, might be a good chance to release a new engine or two to move them further away from csm as well.

I think, with the daemon engine character a sort of 'hold back and cruise slowly with the daemon engines' we'll likely see another artillery like daemon engine; maybe forgefiends being added to the DG codex? It's not a wish but GW like to sell the new model and its not as if this guy will be a speed freak plus the other newly confirmed model is a building, so... It also helps plugs the lack of firepower issue the DG have.

My wish is them not to be moved too far away from CSM and to possibly even double down on cross-codex mark related synergies. Ima definitely going to need dragging away from my soup synergies, especially as they've already balanced soup with the CP costs

**Dudeface**

Semper wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
That's an (un)pleasant surprise they're showing that off so early.

What's predictions for the DG release?

We know there's the terrain, the daemon engine fella they previewed and currently no way to buy a lord of contagion or malignant plague caster. Seems a good chance to get rid of the finecast prince as well, so 4 characters and terrain maybe.

Given they're getting a daemon engine fella, might be a good chance to release a new engine or two to move them further away from csm as well.

I think, with the daemon engine character a sort of 'hold back and cruise slowly with the daemon engines' we'll likely see another artillery like daemon engine; maybe forgefiends being added to the DG codex? It's not a wish but GW like to sell the new model and its not as if this guy will be a speed freak plus the other newly confirmed model is a building, so... It also helps plugs the lack of firepower issue the DG have.

My wish is them not to be moved too far away from CSM and to possibly even double down on mark related synergies. Ima definitely going to need dragging away from my soup synergies, especially as they've already balanced soup with the CP costs

I'd wager a points raise for the infantry thanks to the extra wound as well, might be interesting to see what they do to offset the reduced firepower though.

**Arbitrator**

Dudeface wrote:
That's an (un)pleasant surprise they're showing that off so early.

What's predictions for the DG release?

We know there's the terrain, the daemon engine fella they previewed and currently no way to buy a lord of contagion or malignant plague caster. Seems a good chance to get rid of the finecast prince as well, so 4 characters and terrain maybe.

Given they're getting a daemon engine fella, might be a good chance to release a new engine or two to move them further away from csm as well.

Combat Patrol with the DG half of Dark Imperium.

**GaroRobe**

Not a huge fan of the Miasmic Malignifier. Look at the flies on it. They're so flat and two dimensional. It also has some strong gnarlmaw vibes, which I wasn't a huge fan of. I think it could work for AOS though, since there's nothing too outrageously sci fi.

**Matrindur**

Dudeface wrote:That's an (un)pleasant surprise they're showing that off so early.

What's predictions for the DG release?

We know there's the terrain, the daemon engine fella they previewed and currently no way to buy a lord of contagion or malignant plague caster. Seems a good chance to get rid of the finecast prince as well, so 4 characters and terrain maybe.

Given they're getting a daemon engine fella, might be a good chance to release a new engine or two to move them further away from csm as well.

I don't think there will be anything else for their release just the terrain and the daemon engine guy, maybe new models for the Dark Imperium Characters if that doesn't get turned into their Combat Patrol but I don't think that will happen

JWBS wrote:Combat patrol would be good but I don't expect one, seeing as there was so much DG around from the last 40k starter, and no SC DG.

Death Guard didn't get a SC exactly because they where in the starter set

**Kanluwen**

Arbitrator wrote:

Combat Patrol with the DG half of Dark Imperium.

I think if there's a Combat Patrol coming, it's gonna be more than just the DG half. The Easy to Build versions of everything barring the Poxwalkers and Blight-Hauler got pulled too.