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Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

... ya know I would do.... do you think if we started a letter writing campaign to GW customer service they'd put it in the Warhammer swag store?

What about a squig one?

how about an entire line of them,

a space Marine rhino one,
a DG MBC
A Ork Squiq
A sister of battle Exorcist
...

Allbeit i dread the prices GW would demand for them / licenscing

I'm sure they';d charge 1000 bucks, for one that is about the same level of quality as a 100-200 dollar one

Too early for the whole apple stand debacle meme?

Not Online!!! wrote:
Too early for the whole apple stand debacle meme?

I see absolutely nothing in common between Games workshop and a computer company with a history of selling over priced products that are seldome any better then the compeition but are bought up by their legion of loyal fans anyway. ABSOLUTLY NOTHING

except you know... everything

 Irbis wrote:

Oh wait, you don't need to imagine, because that's what clueless idiot writer did to Deathwatch. I find it funny now that people were afraid of it being blanderized into oblivion by making it part of Codex: SM because writer managed to destroy all the fun it had on his own and the Codex inclusion was in fact the only thing that kept the faction afloat...

It's like someone took Eldar, buffed Guardians somewhat but then nerfed all Aspect Warriors and wraiths into the ground, limited psykers to 1 per army and deleted shuriken weapons from everything but Guardians

Dude, I'm not sure what pirated Deathwatch supplement you got, but mine doesn't look like that at all.

BrianDavion wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
I would totally buy a roomba that looks like a MBH though.

... ya know I would do.... do you think if we started a letter writing campaign to GW customer service they'd put it in the Warhammer swag store?

What about a squig one?

how about an entire line of them,

a space Marine rhino one,
a DG MBC
A Ork Squiq
A sister of battle Exorcist
...

Except the Exorcist would fire all that it swept up out of its organ pipes in the back...

If you’re going to do a roomba it Needs to be a Ripper Swarm.

 AduroT wrote:
If you’re going to do a roomba it Needs to be a Ripper Swarm.

that is called a small dog...

Death Company article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/25/the-flaw-made-manifest-the-death-company-on-the-battlefield/

New Typhus stats:



+1M, +2A!

Wow that death vision is worded terribly.

You can use it if enemy characters are visible to it. OK
'Until that fight is resolved.' Wait, what?

What fight? The way its written, you get extra attacks and rerolls until... a specific fight that isn't actually happening gets resolved.

So I guess you point at a specific enemy character, then spend the game avoiding that model and diving into big units of enemies instead, and the bonuses never end.

Voss wrote:
Wow that death vision is worded terribly.

You can use it if enemy characters are visible to it. OK
'Until that fight is resolved.' Wait, what?

What fight? The way its written, you get extra attacks and rerolls until... a specific fight that isn't actually happening gets resolved.

So I guess you point at a specific enemy character, then spend the game avoiding that model and diving into big units of enemies instead, and the bonuses never end.

I assume the main Death Visions rule, before it mentions the abilities, will explain that it happens in a selected fight phase once per battle.


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Plez, can we haz some Blood Angels leaks?

 Marshal Loss wrote:
New Typhus stats:

**redacted for quoting**

+1M, +2A!

So could be seeing terminator armour not losing 1 movement but also no longer being 4++. Helps Typhus, but would be probably net negative on the blightlords and deathshroud.
Destroyer hive also not being shown as a pistol

/shrug

maybe, but the preview mentions once per battle multiple times, you'd think they'd add the other condition if there was one.

'that fight is resolved' in the vision itself is very vague. Is it resolved after consolidation? Is it 'resolved' if there are still enemies in engagement range, or you consolidate into new enemies?

I might be overthinking something, but clear cut delineations and durations shouldn't be a big ask.

Doohicky wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
New Typhus stats:

**redacted for quoting**

+1M, +2A!

So could be seeing terminator armour not losing 1 movement but also no longer being 4++. Helps Typhus, but would be probably net negative on the blightlords and deathshroud.
Destroyer hive also not being shown as a pistol

Might be the same as Relic Terminator Armour in the SM book - 5++ instead of 4++ but no halving advance rolls. I hope he & they keep the 4++ but it probably wouldn't be the end of the world, pending points costs etc

I'm not sure I'd read too much into the in-box data sheets – haven't there been other disparities between them and the Codex rules for Space Marines and Necrons?

Voss wrote:
Wow that death vision is worded terribly.

You can use it if enemy characters are visible to it. OK
'Until that fight is resolved.' Wait, what?

What fight? The way its written, you get extra attacks and rerolls until... a specific fight that isn't actually happening gets resolved.

So I guess you point at a specific enemy character, then spend the game avoiding that model and diving into big units of enemies instead, and the bonuses never end.

The snippet of lore at the stratagem seems to imply that's the idea.

It's a bonus to deal with a large number of enemies in melee until you can reach (or that character reach you) like *Sanguinius faced hordes of enemies before reach Horus*

 Nazrak wrote:
I'm not sure I'd read too much into the in-box data sheets – haven't there been other disparities between them and the Codex rules for Space Marines and Necrons?

Occasionally yep but the overwhelming majority were on the money, so it's safe enough to take it at face value, albeit with an * beside it

Voss wrote:
/shrug

maybe, but the preview mentions once per battle multiple times, you'd think they'd add the other condition if there was one.

'that fight is resolved' in the vision itself is very vague. Is it resolved after consolidation? Is it 'resolved' if there are still enemies in engagement range, or you consolidate into new enemies?

I might be overthinking something, but clear cut delineations and durations shouldn't be a big ask.

It's resolved when the model in question has resolved all of its attacks, and the next unit is picked to fight.

 Laughing Man wrote:

Voss wrote:
/shrug

maybe, but the preview mentions once per battle multiple times, you'd think they'd add the other condition if there was one.

'that fight is resolved' in the vision itself is very vague. Is it resolved after consolidation? Is it 'resolved' if there are still enemies in engagement range, or you consolidate into new enemies?

I might be overthinking something, but clear cut delineations and durations shouldn't be a big ask.

It's resolved when the model in question has resolved all of its attacks, and the next unit is picked to fight.

It definitely isn't.
When a unit is picked 'to fight' it piles in, resolves its attacks and then consolidates. You don't pick before the consolidate move.
If it consolidates into new enemy units, they are now eligible 'to fight.'

It isn't at all clear to me if 'that fight' pertains solely to the activating model, anyone that is fighting with it, or the fight phase itself, or if a fight lasts until the model has no enemies within engagement range. But a unit's 'fight' definitely is NOT resolved between its attacks and its consolidate move, whatever the exact definition is.

http://imgur.com/gallery/6QQBr9o blurra BA leaks. Did sth change in unit profiles?

Did what change in unit profiles?

 Nazrak wrote:
I'm not sure I'd read too much into the in-box data sheets – haven't there been other disparities between them and the Codex rules for Space Marines and Necrons?

There were some typoes(like weapon that improves target's　save...) and special rules were missing but stats themselves atleast for necrons　were pretty accurate i think. Typoes excluded

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Did what change in unit profiles?

Sorry i meant something with "sth"

Doohicky wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
New Typhus stats:

**redacted for quoting**

+1M, +2A!

So could be seeing terminator armour not losing 1 movement but also no longer being 4++. Helps Typhus, but would be probably net negative on the blightlords and deathshroud.
Destroyer hive also not being shown as a pistol

The other terminators also get extra wounds, so whether that's a negative or not will depend on their points costs.

Destroyer hive as a pistol was worthless and felt wrong anyways, hopefully they turn it into a decent special rule instead.

 Jidmah wrote:

Destroyer hive as a pistol was worthless and felt wrong anyways, hopefully they turn it into a decent special rule instead.

With you in a heartbeat there.

I feel like the DG auras/weapons were very much experimental, some worked some didn't. I'm fine with that. Hopefully they have learned.
Unfortunately learned also will likely mean the super sprayer will be nerfed.
But... if synergy works better I'm happy to drop crutches

 Jidmah wrote:

Doohicky wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
New Typhus stats:

**redacted for quoting**

+1M, +2A!

So could be seeing terminator armour not losing 1 movement but also no longer being 4++. Helps Typhus, but would be probably net negative on the blightlords and deathshroud.
Destroyer hive also not being shown as a pistol

The other terminators also get extra wounds, so whether that's a negative or not will depend on their points costs.

Destroyer hive as a pistol was worthless and felt wrong anyways, hopefully they turn it into a decent special rule instead.

IMHO it makes more sense as a mortal wound aura.

Love the Flesh Tearers Bladeguard Vet, and there's anew Successor Chapter in there too.

 TalonZahn wrote:
Love the Flesh Tearers Bladeguard Vet, and there's anew Successor Chapter in there too.

The Cruor Blades look a lot like the Knights of Blood. Even their Chapter badge's are near identical.

My initial feelings is I’m slightly disappointed with the rules. But that said, marines are strong enough without them so that’s fine. Just nothing too exciting for me, but maybe when I get the book and properly take it all in I’ll be more happy.

On the other hand, all the crusade stuff GW has shown off seems awesome so I’m happy enough.

 Ghaz wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Love the Flesh Tearers Bladeguard Vet, and there's anew Successor Chapter in there too.

The Cruor Blades look a lot like the Knights of Blood.

True, minus the Shield on the Chapter Symbol and a bit less Red.


[Edit] Here's this also - https://imgur.com/a/qRjfgBe