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 Vineheart01 wrote:
"Not available in American/Canadian market"
Dont think any of us want this anyway. Sounds like a disgusting moneygrab trick like any lootbox is.

The character-loot-boxes was bad enough but cross-army lootbox? most people dont have 4-6 armies.

Imperium is such a broad umbrella of things that I'm sure someone would have gotten a little bit of use out of anything they got. Or they might have been able to offload it or gift it to someone who would make use of it.

I would have loved to be able to get a hold of the Underworlds one. I'm missing a few warbands(Ogres, Nurgle, and the Dreadfane sets) and wouldn't mind painting up 'Inspired' versions of the others.

Jackal90 wrote:
I’d avoid an AoS one like the plague if you plan on selling it on.
Conquest has nuked the price of a large chunk of stormcasts and nighthaunt line.
I wouldn’t risk the chances of getting something like a box of chainwrasps valued at £25 when they are £8 on eBay.

Apparently the fantasy one is Warhammer underworlds specific. So it could just be a bunch of the different faction boxes, or one of the terrain sets. If it was the other chaos skirmish game i'd be up for it honestly.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
This is most certainly a warehouse clearing activity to make room, because space is finite, too. Its a nice boon for kit bashers and dabblers though.

As I noted above, GW just finished a new warehouse that will be it's main distribution hub about two weeks ago and set to open in the Fall:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/huge-warehouse-games-workshop-completed-4349075

That's about 11 miles from from GW's HQ, so it's more likely a 'it's cheaper to sell it than to move it' thing.

Well, it's a warehouse, not a new factory - so they have to transport their stuff to it every day. And looking at this:

the new Games Workshop building features a suite of facilities to ensure employee wellbeing, including a dedicated gymnasium, shower facilities, cycle routes and secure storage space.

... I don't think a few truckloads are a real problem for them.

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
This is most certainly a warehouse clearing activity to make room, because space is finite, too. Its a nice boon for kit bashers and dabblers though.

As I noted above, GW just finished a new warehouse that will be it's main distribution hub about two weeks ago and set to open in the Fall:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/huge-warehouse-games-workshop-completed-4349075

That's about 11 miles from from GW's HQ, so it's more likely a 'it's cheaper to sell it than to move it' thing.

Well, it's a warehouse, not a new factory - so they have to transport their stuff to it every day. And looking at this:

the new Games Workshop building features a suite of facilities to ensure employee wellbeing, including a dedicated gymnasium, shower facilities, cycle routes and secure storage space.

... I don't think a few truckloads are a real problem for them.

And how many truckloads do they have to move then? And is there really any reason to move product that's collecting dust in one warehouse so it can collect dust in another warehouse?

Cronch wrote:
Nothing in those crates says they will be only, or even mostly, models.
I bet it'll be filled to the brim with dice, random game mats and card sleeves.

That being said, oof, a bit of a new low for GW.

The description says "a secretly selected array of Warhammer kits". I'm unaware that dice, mats and sleeves comes under the description of "kits". So why is this a low thing?

 Argive wrote:
I cant believe two things..

1. Its sold out.. WTF..

2. People bought this..

3. Somebody though it would be a good idea..

Guess thats 3 things..

I'm not sure what's so surprising about it. Blind boxes have always been a fairly safe bet, and they've done quite well for other companies that have done similar (I've bought one of Mantic's mystery boxes in the past despite actively disliking at least half of their model range, and was pleasantly surprised at how good it was for the price).

People like mystery boxes, particularly if they're getting product at a discount, and there are plenty of people out there who either don't care what army the models belong to, collect enough different armies that whatever they get is potentially useful, or would happily use whatever they get as the basis of a new army to start. I laughed at the commend earlier in the thread about 'enjoying' getting a bunch of Cadian heavy sprues. Frankly, I'd love to get a bunch of heavy weapon teams at a discount - those sprues are a treasure trove of conversion fodder.

Honestly, the only thing that raises my eyebrow about this is the pricepoint. It's too high to be tempting for me personally, but I'm not at all surprised that they sold out.

cody.d. wrote:
Impressive that the imperial version is already sold out after less than a day. Wonder how long till we find out how much, or little the purchasers actually got. Will the total value actually be 2X the cost? Will it just be kits that have been replaced recently, like the old marines or some resin models that are being made into plastic in like, a week.

I'm going to lol so hard if it's 99% failcast leftovers.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
This is most certainly a warehouse clearing activity to make room, because space is finite, too. Its a nice boon for kit bashers and dabblers though.

As I noted above, GW just finished a new warehouse that will be it's main distribution hub about two weeks ago and set to open in the Fall:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/huge-warehouse-games-workshop-completed-4349075

That's about 11 miles from from GW's HQ, so it's more likely a 'it's cheaper to sell it than to move it' thing.

Well, it's a warehouse, not a new factory - so they have to transport their stuff to it every day. And looking at this:

the new Games Workshop building features a suite of facilities to ensure employee wellbeing, including a dedicated gymnasium, shower facilities, cycle routes and secure storage space.

... I don't think a few truckloads are a real problem for them.

And how many truckloads do they have to move then? And is there really any reason to move product that's collecting dust in one warehouse so it can collect dust in another warehouse?

That would be the case in some 40k products. WH Underworlds? Not so much - they sold them till the cards were out of stock and they're still in the AoS range (and quite an eyecatcher) - to get them for 10€ is a bargain.

Well, just wait and see until the boxes are opened.

P.S. This is 100% because of GW's policy of never putting anything on sale no matter what because they think it undermines their image as a "premium brand." Any normal company would just discount stuff it is having trouble selling, but that's against GW's principles for its brand. In that context, it's a rather clever way to make a few more bucks off exploitable people while maintaining the fiction that GW products never go on sale.

Mantic, Victoria, PP, etc have a random bitz sale and people love it.

GW bring it back (yes, they used to do them all the time in stores) and everybody loses their minds.

yukishiro1 wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
Impressive that the imperial version is already sold out after less than a day. Wonder how long till we find out how much, or little the purchasers actually got. Will the total value actually be 2X the cost? Will it just be kits that have been replaced recently, like the old marines or some resin models that are being made into plastic in like, a week.

I'm going to lol so hard if it's 99% failcast leftovers.

Next month it will be grab bags of liquid green stuff

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Argive wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

macluvin wrote:
It might have worked out better for them if they just did a week long sale on whatever they are trying to clear out. Or simply added sprues or kits to orders for free randomly. Announcing that may stimulate sales and gives no one a reason to complain. “Oh no I got a free Chadian HWT I don’t want that garbage how dare they pack that in my order” said no one ever... says I with no multi billion dollar company Or business degree XD maybe that’s why I don’t have one...

They sold out. Seems like it went very well for them.

I'm really confused by this thread, you have people angry that the company even did this. Then you have people angry that they missed out on it. And then you have people angry at the content. And there is overlap between all three. Very odd.


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 Argive wrote:
As been pointed out ebfore with BOTP 50% of something you dont want or need is not really a a bargain..

But whatever. Good luck to the "imerium" players whatever that means lol.

People model too. It's not always about playing the game for some people.

Sure.
But you'd generally buy the stuff you need for your creation.

Hard to have a vision if you dotn know what you are working with.

Im glad they cleared out their warehouse though. Good for them.

Eh, i'd disagree with that. When i feel in a creative mood, i'll just tip the bitz box out on the table and rifle through until some inspiration strikes me. If i was into the imperium side of things, i would likely have gotten this as it would have given me a cheap load of odds and sods to play with.

Yeah but wouldn't you rather pick a new expensive chasis or a kit or two that is going to have at least one major expensive part you want that you don't already have?
I'm sure we all bought a whole kit for a set of wings or a torso at some point in our hobby life lol. But at least you know what you are getting.

For all you know it might be assult marines and tac marines and rhinos and old guard kits etc. that any imperium player collecting for a while will have an abundance of.

If it was 10 quid for a bunch of random bits that'd be one thing. 75 for some random kits without even knowing what army they'll be for is something else entirely. You don't even know that you'll get bits at all - it could be 100% failcast stuff like Crusaders that come in two pieces each.

 privateer4hire wrote:

yukishiro1 wrote:

cody.d. wrote:
Impressive that the imperial version is already sold out after less than a day. Wonder how long till we find out how much, or little the purchasers actually got. Will the total value actually be 2X the cost? Will it just be kits that have been replaced recently, like the old marines or some resin models that are being made into plastic in like, a week.

I'm going to lol so hard if it's 99% failcast leftovers.

Next month it will be grab bags of liquid green stuff

Except it's all the dried useless stuff.

yukishiro1 wrote:
P.S. This is 100% because of GW's policy of never putting anything on sale no matter what because they think it undermines their image as a "premium brand." Any normal company would just discount stuff it is having trouble selling, but that's against GW's principles for its brand. In that context, it's a rather clever way to make a few more bucks off exploitable people while maintaining the fiction that GW products never go on sale.

Almost every single "normal" company does this. As mentioned, Mantic and Privateer have done it, FFG has done it at conventions, Bandai does it monthly through Bluefin(including stuffing boxes full of their expensive Figuarts figures), Hasbro does it through their webstore and at conventions, McFarlane does it at conventions. Hell, Microsoft does a fully licensed version through Loot Crate. This is nothing new and is definitely not to keep up some sort of "premium appearance ".

I just thought of something: did they specifically exempt this from their normal return policy? I wonder if you can see what you got, decide it was crap, and demand a refund. Nothing on the web listing states it isn't eligible for the return policy, nor did they amend the return policy itself that I can see to exclude them.

Also, for people hoping to resell them, there's no way they will come in original packaging, because that would allow people to return them as the individual kits for effectively double credit - buy kits for 75, return them for 150 in store credit as individual kits, since you don't need proof of purchase to return for credit.

 kodos wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

Yeah, at PAX Unplugged they sell board game mystery boxes and they sell like crazy. That's even more of a crapshoot than anything GW is doing here, since you have no idea what kind of board game you're getting.
But carry on with the outrage, folks.

they are selling random collections for 100€?
or random games?

Random games. Different publishers, types, genres. People buy 'em right up. Think this is them, if you're interested:

https://www.boardgameboosterbox.com/

It's almost like some people don't loathe their hobby and find it fun to throw some bucks at something and see what they get.

Why on earth is it 225 Canadian but 75 pounds converts to a mere 130? Surely shipping and tax can't hike it up THAT far,.

 vaklor4 wrote:
Why on earth is it 225 Canadian but 75 pounds converts to a mere 130? Surely shipping and tax can't hike it up THAT far,.

It wasn't available in Canada at all.

Supply Drop will only be available in certain territories this time around so, unfortunately, fans in the US and Canada won’t be able to take advantage of this offer this time around.

It was $225 in Australia, because GW prices are always terrible down there.

Voss wrote:

 vaklor4 wrote:
Why on earth is it 225 Canadian but 75 pounds converts to a mere 130? Surely shipping and tax can't hike it up THAT far,.

It wasn't available in Canada at all.

Supply Drop will only be available in certain territories this time around so, unfortunately, fans in the US and Canada won’t be able to take advantage of this offer this time around.

It was $225 in Australia, because GW prices are always terrible down there.

It was still priced at 225 Canadian, and posted up, be it "unavailable".

Don't know what to tell you. I get Error 404 records expunged for it on the Canada site, same as US (which makes sense, since the Canada 'site' uses the US warehouse). I can find it on the UK and Aus sites, however.

You sure you aren't on the Aus site? That can often happen if you follow someone else's link- it keeps their country code.

The Canada price was probably a mistake. It was probably just the Australian price uploaded on the Canada site by accident.

Yeah, it was 18,000 Yen here. Apparently the contents varied from region to region. I'm a little curious as to what it contained, though the way GW prices stuff out here suggests it may well have been "Exactly what was in the UK box, with an addtional 110 pound charge for not being British".
I can't imagine this being worth the money - as people have pointed out, it's pretty clearly a space-clearing excercise. Though probably not as dreadful as people are saying (all out-of-date-codexes (not to say that I don't think they wouldn't toss at lease one in there)), I certainly think there's a danger of it only being stuff that isn't selling because it's available cheaper in a Start Collecting box, and maybe a few dozen miscast Iron Hand Strakens.

I think it's like, an alright business practice (if they were maybe a bit more transparent about it in regards to numbers available, and maybe a few better clues about the contents), but like a few people here, I'd much rather they just did a sale, or like, IDK, made the boxes more affordable? Even at the UK price, 75 quid is pretty steep. If they put it at like 35, but halved the contents, it'd be much more accessable and community friendly. Instead we've got another slightly too expensive boxset that the whales predictably gulped up in minutes. GW are clearly learning their customers' buying habits.

 posermcbogus wrote:
Yeah, it was 18,000 Yen here. Apparently the contents varied from region to region. I'm a little curious as to what it contained, though the way GW prices stuff out here suggests it may well have been "Exactly what was in the UK box, with an addtional 110 pound charge for not being British".
I can't imagine this being worth the money - as people have pointed out, it's pretty clearly a space-clearing excercise. Though probably not as dreadful as people are saying (all out-of-date-codexes (not to say that I don't think they wouldn't toss at lease one in there)), I certainly think there's a danger of it only being stuff that isn't selling because it's available cheaper in a Start Collecting box, and maybe a few dozen miscast Iron Hand Strakens.

I think it's like, an alright business practice (if they were maybe a bit more transparent about it in regards to numbers available, and maybe a few better clues about the contents), but like a few people here, I'd much rather they just did a sale, or like, IDK, made the boxes more affordable? Even at the UK price, 75 quid is pretty steep. If they put it at like 35, but halved the contents, it'd be much more accessable and community friendly. Instead we've got another slightly too expensive boxset that the whales predictably gulped up in minutes. GW are clearly learning their customers' buying habits.

I have doubts that it will contain out of date codexes specifically. GW does have a policy on destroying stock like that in store. Going full khorne and breaking the spines, tearing them in half etc etc. Or at least in AU they do.

 posermcbogus wrote:
Yeah, it was 18,000 Yen here. Apparently the contents varied from region to region. I'm a little curious as to what it contained, though the way GW prices stuff out here suggests it may well have been "Exactly what was in the UK box, with an addtional 110 pound charge for not being British".
I can't imagine this being worth the money - as people have pointed out, it's pretty clearly a space-clearing excercise. Though probably not as dreadful as people are saying (all out-of-date-codexes (not to say that I don't think they wouldn't toss at lease one in there)), I certainly think there's a danger of it only being stuff that isn't selling because it's available cheaper in a Start Collecting box, and maybe a few dozen miscast Iron Hand Strakens.

I think it's like, an alright business practice (if they were maybe a bit more transparent about it in regards to numbers available, and maybe a few better clues about the contents), but like a few people here, I'd much rather they just did a sale, or like, IDK, made the boxes more affordable? Even at the UK price, 75 quid is pretty steep. If they put it at like 35, but halved the contents, it'd be much more accessable and community friendly. Instead we've got another slightly too expensive boxset that the whales predictably gulped up in minutes. GW are clearly learning their customers' buying habits.

At 35£ you wouldn't have enough economical space to randomize the contents sufficiently.
If the retail value is meant to be 70£, then there are kits that they want to move that probably covered 70-80% of that sum and didn't leave enough space to fill the rest of the value. GW doesn't have a lot of low value kits for fine tuning.

Also, I don't think that there weren't a lot of these. Just the fact that they had a box specifically made for this and delivered from China, indicates that there were no less than 5000 of these boxes.

Spoletta wrote:

 posermcbogus wrote:
Yeah, it was 18,000 Yen here. Apparently the contents varied from region to region. I'm a little curious as to what it contained, though the way GW prices stuff out here suggests it may well have been "Exactly what was in the UK box, with an addtional 110 pound charge for not being British".
I can't imagine this being worth the money - as people have pointed out, it's pretty clearly a space-clearing excercise. Though probably not as dreadful as people are saying (all out-of-date-codexes (not to say that I don't think they wouldn't toss at lease one in there)), I certainly think there's a danger of it only being stuff that isn't selling because it's available cheaper in a Start Collecting box, and maybe a few dozen miscast Iron Hand Strakens.

I think it's like, an alright business practice (if they were maybe a bit more transparent about it in regards to numbers available, and maybe a few better clues about the contents), but like a few people here, I'd much rather they just did a sale, or like, IDK, made the boxes more affordable? Even at the UK price, 75 quid is pretty steep. If they put it at like 35, but halved the contents, it'd be much more accessable and community friendly. Instead we've got another slightly too expensive boxset that the whales predictably gulped up in minutes. GW are clearly learning their customers' buying habits.

At 35£ you wouldn't have enough economical space to randomize the contents sufficiently.
If the retail value is meant to be 70£, then there are kits that they want to move that probably covered 70-80% of that sum and didn't leave enough space to fill the rest of the value. GW doesn't have a lot of low value kits for fine tuning.

Also, I don't think that there weren't a lot of these. Just the fact that they had a box specifically made for this and delivered from China, indicates that there were no less than 5000 of these boxes.

That's assuming the boxes shown on WHC and the webstore are actual boxes - they look like CGI graphics to me. I wouldn't expect custom boxes for these.

Nostromodamus wrote:Mantic, Victoria, PP, etc have a random bitz sale and people love it.
GW bring it back (yes, they used to do them all the time in stores) and everybody loses their minds.

it is the price and the not knowing what it is
100€ Imperium stuff is a lot for something random that can be anything from Catachan to Old-Marines

as someone who is doing scratchbuilding/kitbasching a lot, a box of bits is always handy but 100€ without more details is too much

30€ and we would talk, 50€ and I want to know what kind of models there are (eg troops only, terrain, heavy weapons, tanks)

if they say 30€ random Xeno plastic Sprues, each package is different, I would buy 2.
50€ random terrain sprues, yes please

100€ Imperium, every box is the same, this is too expensive and suspecious to get me in

gorgon wrote:

 kodos wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

Yeah, at PAX Unplugged they sell board game mystery boxes and they sell like crazy. That's even more of a crapshoot than anything GW is doing here, since you have no idea what kind of board game you're getting.
But carry on with the outrage, folks.

they are selling random collections for 100€?
or random games?

Random games. Different publishers, types, genres. People buy 'em right up. Think this is them, if you're interested:

https://www.boardgameboosterbox.com/

It's almost like some people don't loathe their hobby and find it fun to throw some bucks at something and see what they get.

thx and I am interested
and the main difference is here that it is just 50 instead of 100 and guaranted playable out of the box (so no problem to gift it to someone else if I already have it or don't like it)

if GW would have done a Box of "Imperium plastic sprues" or "terrain sprues" for 50 it would be something different

I'd 100% be down with a blind buy of terrain!

cody.d. wrote:

I have doubts that it will contain out of date codexes specifically.

at the moment there are no out of date Codizes for 40k and GW will happily sell you the 8th Edi book on Friday before release of the 9th edition version at full price
so yes, I would not be suprised if there are DA, SW and BA 8th Edition books inside

I'd have bought one or two if I was actively gaming/actively converting. My "bits box" has been whittled down to pretty much rejects I can't use anyway, that's why I still have those bits.

While there isn't any indication I'd need or be able to use anything that was in the box it is easier than building up bits again by buying whole kits.

But this price is a little steep, and for something that could be completely unusable? Nah.