An interesting video on GW, prices and inflation.

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**NinthMusketeer**

They'll look a hell of a lot nicer though.

**vipoid**

tneva82 wrote:
vipoid wrote:

This can also be seen in other areas, like Codices. My 5th edition DE book was ~£15.50. It had a lot of nice artwork, fluff and other stuff. However, the 7th edition and 8th edition DE books were about £25.00. Most of the art has been replaced by photoghraphs of the models (you know, exactly like the ones in catalogues that other companies give away for free), and the ones that are there are poorly-drawn and/or badly-coloured. But it was a hardback book with high-quality paper, so of course it had to cost much more.
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£ for upgrade to hardback doesn't seem that bad. More durability is always nice

Why? These are hardly long-term products. Plus my soft-cover books are still fine, all the way back to the 3rd edition Necron codex that I started 40k with.

**Dai**

Dude seems to be an interesting and pleasant content creator. Subscribed. More recent WH channels are far better than the majority of those we used to get who'd just have a random 10 minute tirade against women at any point and such.

**H.B.M.C.**

Dai wrote:
... 10 minute tirade against women...

You must move in weird circles. I've literally never seen a 40K video do that. Most 40K videos tend to, y'know, talk about 40k.

But yes, Midwinter Minis is a nice little channel. Guy and Penny are fun.

**NinthMusketeer**

All I've seen in terms of nastiness is Arch Warhammer's big petition to support racists.

**vipoid**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
All I've seen in terms of nastiness is Arch Warhammer's big petition to support racists.

Well you can't say it isn't thematically appropriate.

**Voss**

Duskweaver wrote:
yukishiro1 wrote:
and the average age of a 40k player is probably closer to 40 than to 20.

That might be true where you are, but it sure doesn't match my experience. The vast majority of 40K players where I am are still teenage boys from middle-class families, exactly the same as it's been for the 30-ish years I've been in this hobby.

Yours doesn't match mine. I haven't seen a teenager playing since I was one (which was most of a decade into last century). Maybe a couple college kids were technically 19 or so, but that's it- I've seen more female players than teenagers in recent years.
CCGs and video games pretty much KO'd the chances of junior high/high school kids getting into Warhammers. Even the year I spent in southwest Britain at the turn of the century, I didn't see kids in the GW store.

In US indie stores, criss-crossing the country over the years, a local PP pressganger brought his kid into the store exactly once during game night, and never again. That's the only time I've seen someone young associated with this hobby (and he very clearly didn't want to be there) since the mid-90s. But on Pokemon or MtG nights, there wasn't room in the same store to put down a board and get a game in. Lots and lots of kids for those.

**Arbitrator**

I think it depends on where you live/game. GW stores tend to have much younger footfall, usually because they - at least Back In The Day - first saw it on a high street, their parents can 'dump' their kid there whilst they go shopping, youngsters can't drive to clubs in the middle of nowhere and won't necessarily know they exist etc. I will say that on the few occasions I've stuck my head into a GW in the past few years, there are a lot more older (late 20's to early 40's) players than there were when I was a bright eyed youngster, where almost everyone playing in-store ranged from about twelve to the very early twenties at a push. There's still plenty of youngsters in there, bu the demographic is definitely more diverse age wise compared to what it was. I think this might be in part because GW's used to have their 16+ 'Veterans Nights' and Beginner-only Sundays, which have promptly been eliminated.

LFGS I notice tend to be teenagers and up, with an average age of around the late twenties to early thirties. Independent clubs is when you start getting your older gents. This is just a UK example.

**NinthMusketeer**

vipoid wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
All I've seen in terms of nastiness is Arch Warhammer's big petition to support racists.

Well you can't say it isn't thematically appropriate.

that is an amusing way to look at it!