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2020/10/15 16:46:36
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Two codexes have been teased for January 2020 release, you can just see some of the cover art (or at least some placeholder art) in one of the images on Warhammer Community - the top one looks like it could be Sisters of Battle (looks Ecclesiastical anyway) and not sure what the other one is. Genestealer Cult? They seem to be releasing them at a decent rate anyway.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/15/warhammer-40000-the-codex-roadmap/
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2020/10/15 17:00:26
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, that Warcom piece was a waste of time- the dexes that were actually identified had already been announced. What we needed from them today was to be told exactly what the two dexes in January are- that would have been actual news.
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2020/10/15 17:08:24
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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PenitentJake wrote:What we needed from them today was to be told exactly what the two dexes in January are- that would have been actual news.
The previous article said Dark Angels and "the first xenos codex" - looks like it might be 'Nids?
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2020/10/15 17:10:00
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Two per month is nowhere near fast enough, especially in the context of marine wound updates and weapon profile adjustments.
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2020/10/15 17:10:59
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Looks like GSC to me, though it could be wishful thinking on my part.
Specifically I'm looking on the left hand side that looks like a cultist wearing goggles to me.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2020/10/15 17:11:04
Subject: Re:New Codexes teased
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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im pretty sure even the cover arts are placeholder so its not worth trying to figure out which armies they are
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2020/10/15 17:13:06
Subject: Re:New Codexes teased
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Both of those pieces of artwork are from the BRB so I wouldn't read into it
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<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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2020/10/15 17:27:44
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Sterling191 wrote:Two per month is nowhere near fast enough, especially in the context of marine wound updates and weapon profile adjustments.
Unlikely it even holds 2 per month. It took like 2 years for 8e to get most of codexes and that was with more urgency than 9e
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2020/10/15 17:32:00
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My money is on dark angels and gene stealer cults.
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2020/10/15 17:37:22
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Fixture of Dakka
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Confirmation of which books are out in each month is useful, at least, even if not the most exciting - and given their divergencies, SW and DW make sense as coming out sooner.
No mention of anything accompanying the books, but that kinda makes sense on a roadmap piece.
I guess the unanswered question is whether each pair will drop on the same weekend or different onces.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/10/15 17:43:24
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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tneva82 wrote:Sterling191 wrote:Two per month is nowhere near fast enough, especially in the context of marine wound updates and weapon profile adjustments.
Unlikely it even holds 2 per month. It took like 2 years for 8e to get most of codexes and that was with more urgency than 9e
August 2017
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8th wasn't actually that fast, most of the time it was 1 codex per month. So 2 per month is faster.
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2020/10/15 18:12:02
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Yep. Which is why i don't expect 2 per month to hold for 9e either. They didn't rush like that in 8e and that was edition that Needed codexes out faster than 9e. 8e all didn't have codex to start with. 9e does
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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2020/10/15 18:25:30
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Terrifying Doombull
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Dark angels is already confirmed here: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/09/12/the-codex-show/
The other is Xenos, so GSC could be possible. Given that 'Lieutenant' style models have been teased for Orks and Dark Eldar, I'd give them extra weight for the January Xenos book (and yes, that is also confirmed in the september article and the new one)
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Efficiency is the highest virtue. |
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2020/10/15 18:31:32
Subject: Re:New Codexes teased
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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I want to be wrong (pulling for Drukhari), but the more I think about it the more I am able to convince myself it would be a Harlequin codex. Quite possibly the only xenos playerbase that doesn't want their army changed right now. All the psychic awakening rules are still available except the ones from the white dwarf, which is why I think Deathwatch are one of the first books.
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2020/10/15 18:34:30
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well since Orkz had to wait 4 years between 7th and 8th edition codex's if we get one in January that would be a pleasant surprise.
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2020/10/15 18:44:01
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I’d have thought GW would first target thier biggest sellers so must be Orks for xenos, right? But that image isn’t orky.
Any chance it could be a new army, could we be in for a curve ball????
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2020/10/15 18:50:10
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Given the Marine and Necron releases, I'd be surprised it was something new.
Although there's got be a Hrud release at some point.
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2020/10/15 18:50:51
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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mrFickle wrote:I’d have thought GW would first target thier biggest sellers so must be Orks for xenos, right? But that image isn’t orky.
Any chance it could be a new army, could we be in for a curve ball????
Since GW can't figure out balance with what they currently have they probably need to tone down the new factions. I mean, how many "new" factions did they invent in 7th and 8th?
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2020/10/15 19:12:00
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Fresh-Faced New User
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SemperMortis wrote:
Since GW can't figure out balance with what they currently have they probably need to tone down the new factions. I mean, how many "new" factions did they invent in 7th and 8th?
I don't disagree with your assessment on GW's capabilities, but I doubt that'd stop them. Not adding another faction would likely be due to production considerations or cost-benefit assessments.
Two. So it's more likely than it was before 7th. Maybe even 2.5 or 3 if you count Primaris (I don't but worth mentioning)???
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DA's the 5th one but I'd have considered sisters if DA wasn't already mentioned to be coming thanks to the brightness and angelic wings. It does also make a degree of sense to get all the standalone chapters quickly due to their changes to supplements. I'm guessing that if they remained standalone, they'd at least have considered leaving them for later.
The cover art may not be completely telling but there's little point to having anything at all if they were doing pure placeholders. I though Nids myself but that was before I looked outside the center bit. The goggle/tech (aka not flesh) looking bit convinces me that GSC is what they're hinting at. I'm sure GSC players are going to be happy to see that. While they need improvements, I'm not sure that was the best selection.
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2 books a month is almost assuredly not going to continue. Out of the eight displayed through Jan, only half are actual dex's. I'm not going to count a real dex + marine supplement as two dex releases every month personally, but I have to concede that others might.
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2020/10/15 19:15:44
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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World Eaters Codex at January, yes please (not gonna happen)
But yeah its probably Tau that is 'redacted'. Because GW loooooooves their Tau.
Chaos Space Marines can be expected in 2021... nice :(
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6000 World Eaters/Khorne |
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2020/10/15 19:19:58
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Fixture of Dakka
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Brutallica wrote:World Eaters Codex at January, yes please (not gonna happen)
But yeah its probably Tau that is 'redacted'. Because GW loooooooves their Tau.
Chaos Space Marines can be expected in 2021... nice :(
...you do realise that 2021 is less than three months away at this point, right?
And that the only full Codex left to be released in 2020... is a Chaos SM book, right?
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/10/15 19:24:03
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Norn Queen
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My guess is Dark Angels and Nids for January.
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2020/10/15 19:29:56
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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tneva82 wrote:Yep. Which is why i don't expect 2 per month to hold for 9e either. They didn't rush like that in 8e and that was edition that Needed codexes out faster than 9e. 8e all didn't have codex to start with. 9e does
I wouldn't either. Four of those six are supplements, not even a full codex.
And yes, they've already told us one of the first in 2020 will be Dark Angels. I'm happy for BA players, I still remember the year the closest they got to a Codex was a White Dwarf Article.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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2020/10/15 19:39:40
Subject: Re:New Codexes teased
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I stand corrected on the cover art after reading directives to the BBB. The supposed DA one is just imperium art in the Indom BBB pg 26, xenos-ish was just pg 34. For those thinking it was Chaos, their image would likely be the one on pg 37 and would be counter to their xenos dex claims to begin with.
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2020/10/15 19:54:25
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Fixture of Dakka
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Breton wrote:tneva82 wrote:Yep. Which is why i don't expect 2 per month to hold for 9e either. They didn't rush like that in 8e and that was edition that Needed codexes out faster than 9e. 8e all didn't have codex to start with. 9e does
I wouldn't either. Four of those six are supplements, not even a full codex.
And yes, they've already told us one of the first in 2020 will be Dark Angels. I'm happy for BA players, I still remember the year the closest they got to a Codex was a White Dwarf Article.
Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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2020/10/15 19:56:22
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Watch Fortress Excalibris
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Both the January '21 codex covers there are definitely just placeholder art. The top one is the frontispiece for the 'Rule of the Imperium' section of the 9th edition Core Book (right before the bit about Space Marines). The bottom one is the frontispiece for the 'Perils of the Unknown' section (which talks about Xenos races). So one SM codex and one Xenos codex sounds likely.
EDIT: I don't know whether lots of people are posting at once or whether the forum's just being buggy, but literally half the posts above this one weren't there when I posted...
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A little bit of righteous anger now and then is good, actually. Don't trust a person who never gets angry. |
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2020/10/15 20:01:02
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Karol wrote:
Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.
BA, DA, DW, and SW are all supplements to the Space Marine Codex that just came out. They've already announced this.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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2020/10/15 20:03:40
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
Watch Fortress Excalibris
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Karol wrote:Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.
Err... they don't literally prop the books up and take photographs of them, you know? Those are digitally created mock-ups for marketing purposes. That's why they're all apparently the same thickness despite some being supplements and others full codexes.
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A little bit of righteous anger now and then is good, actually. Don't trust a person who never gets angry. |
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2020/10/15 20:05:27
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Karol wrote:
Those seem to be very thick books to just be supplements. Now GW could have resized them just for the picture art, but I think they are too lazy to do that.
Previous supplements were 64-80 ish pages (and looked thicker than that number suggests in official photos). Those were only a handful of unique units/characters, rules, fluff, and art (including models). Compiling everything over the years into these new supplements and some extra unique aspects (in comparison) can likely increase the page count for these supplements as well.
It also looks like they're all the same size, suggesting that this is just a pasting of an image onto generic codex shaped assets. That's far easier than taking separate photos for each book.
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2020/10/15 20:09:04
Subject: New Codexes teased
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Fixture of Dakka
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True, but PA books had what 2-3 armies per book. Those have one army in them, although I could be wrong of course.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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