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 GaroRobe wrote:
I saw some people wonder if it was an April Fool's joke, but that'd be scummy since people did get charged...

I wouldn't have put much stock in that. It would have been in bad taste and very damaging to Hachette and GWs images, and quite likely illegal to collect financial info and payments as part of a 'joke', too. Let alone one that is still 'live' days later. Thus, I give that theory zero credibility. Could it have been a mistake and not intended to go public yet, or riddled with glitches? Maybe, but still unlikely, as there have been days to address a 'mistake' now.

Yeah, I'd be more likely to believe a buggy launch than a joke. What'd be the joke here, "ha ha we pretended to do the thing people have been asking us to do for ages"?

I think it’s ridiculous to even think it’d be an April Fools.
It’s not really how they work, and didn’t take place in just the morning of the 1st, which would be the norm.
But as mentioned what even would be a joke there? That makes no sense at all.

Just got a reply back from their customer service, my order was confirmed apparently just a glitch

I never got an email either, sounds like I'm probably fine but I'll email to confirm.

Imperium's first issue sighted in Spain. Mortal Realms' trial run was in Bilbao and Málaga I think, and I bought the issue in Bilbao so it might be the same launch strategy.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Dear Lord, not sure if it is my browser (Chrome) or what but that Hachette website is a nightmare to buy anything from, search or even stay logged in. It is as if they actively do not want money.

I was having trouble using Chromium Edge; I think I eventually used Safari on my iPad instead.

 TheWaspinator wrote:
I never got an email either, sounds like I'm probably fine but I'll email to confirm.

I mailed them and they confirmed mine went through - My order number was in the 700s. Hopefully a bunch more fellow nerds hop on this and we can get them all over here in the US!

Received this this morning:

Thank you for subscribing to Warhammer 40,000: Imperium. Your first two issues will be shipped to you in the next few days.

We would like to inform you that the current release has been a limited regional run, which has now come to an end. This means no further payments will be taken and no further issues sent out after you receive your first delivery. We will be launching this collection nationally in early 2022 and will be in touch with you then to continue your collection!

We would like to thank you for supporting the Warhammer 40,000: Imperium limited run, for which we have had an extremely positive response. We look forward to bringing the full collection to the USA soon, and can assure you it will be worth the wait.

Kind regards,
Hachette Partworks Ltd.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Received this this morning:

I also received an email, but was told I get nothing:

“We would like to inform you that the current release has been a limited regional run, which has now come to an end. Your account has not been charged and no issues will be sent at this time. We will be launching the collection nationally in early 2022 and will be in touch with you then to start your collection!”

Guess it depends where you are in terms of the trial regions.

But hey, it gives me time to start stashing cash away to buy loads and loads and loads of Flayed Ones when their issue comes around

 Bold wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Received this this morning:

I also received an email, but was told I get nothing:

“We would like to inform you that the current release has been a limited regional run, which has now come to an end. Your account has not been charged and no issues will be sent at this time. We will be launching the collection nationally in early 2022 and will be in touch with you then to start your collection!”

Same for me. I don't understand the 'limited regional run' but they had a whole site setup that would take orders from anyone? Is this just a ass-backwards system for gauging interest? Early 2022 is a long ways off for them to have made people think it was going to be a thing now.

Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

I wonder if they got a lot larger response than they were ready to fulfill. 2022 could be the soonest gw is able to get enough of the right sprues produced, stockpiled, and sent to hatchette for distribution. New kits at full price are going to have first call on their machines after all.

I got one of the sorry, try again later emails, but I also was never charged.

I got the email saying mine is shipping. I’m in the Midwest if it matters and order number 426 I think or something like that.

Could be regional or limited number of available copies.

A little sad the whole run isn’t starting yet but it’s fine.

 totalfailure wrote:
Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

If they start now it would eat on sales of gw's kit's. Why buy flayed ones from gw when hachette provides at discount? Skorpek　lord? Same.

Besides with editions lasting about 156 weeks　that's silly exaggeration.

80 weeks

And hey, I’m waiting for the Flayed Ones regardless! I know they’re coming, and if they’re released at the end, I might’ve* finished painting the rest of the army by then!


*shyeah.

tneva82 wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:
Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

If they start now it would eat on sales of gw's kit's. Why buy flayed ones from gw when hachette provides at discount? Skorpek　lord? Same.

Besides with editions lasting about 156 weeks　that's silly exaggeration.

The only thing silly is your math. We’ve had 4 editions since 2012, and eight and ninth were only three years apart. If the subscription doesn’t start until next year sometime, the parts work could well last until at least the end of 2023. Are you confident there won’t be another 40K by then? I’m not.

And cutting into sales of kits that are available in a few months like the Heavy Intercessors and Flayed Ones? Also silly. There’s no telling when they might come in the parts works, but it likely would not have been in the next few weeks, when GW will likely sell lots of those kits themselves. I’m not too enthusiastic about an almost two year process not starting for another year or more. That’s my opinion. Deal with it.

Quasistellar wrote:
I got the email saying mine is shipping. I’m in the Midwest if it matters and order number 426 I think or something like that.

Could be regional or limited number of available copies.

A little sad the whole run isn’t starting yet but it’s fine.

Guessing the limited number of copies. I was order number 1300 or so I think and live in completely different part of the country and was given the shipping notice.

I got my shipping notice, have already forgot what I ordered.

For the online sign ups that do go out.
Regional would make no difference.
They use post. They don’t walk round to your house if you live nearby.

The in store trial being regional to gauge interest.
And then sending out the first X number of subscribers too.

Bear I kind the feedback form they want people to do who do get it.
So they want to know what some online buyers think etc.

 totalfailure wrote:
Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

Imperium like Conquest before it shouldn't necessarily be considered as majnstream Warhammer 40000.

Both part works are a games system in its own right and one need not have 40k knowledge to play it.

Yes, the rules follow those of 40k but they will be drip fed over time growing in complexity as they go. It isn't like buying straight into the latest 40k starter set with a full rulebook.

For experienced 40k players, it's a cheap way of obtaining figures, scenery and paints.

That's my viewpoint. Mileage may vary.

Deal with it.

alphaecho wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:
Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

Imperium like Conquest before it shouldn't necessarily be considered as majnstream Warhammer 40000.

Both part works are a games system in its own right and one need not have 40k knowledge to play it.

Yes, the rules follow those of 40k but they will be drip fed over time growing in complexity as they go. It isn't like buying straight into the latest 40k starter set with a full rulebook.

For experienced 40k players, it's a cheap way of obtaining figures, scenery and paints.

That's my viewpoint. Mileage may vary.

Deal with it.

The fact remains, you may be spending a lot of money on something that could well be obsolete before you even get it all. That could be an issue for some people. Deal with it.

 totalfailure wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:
Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

Imperium like Conquest before it shouldn't necessarily be considered as majnstream Warhammer 40000.

Both part works are a games system in its own right and one need not have 40k knowledge to play it.

Yes, the rules follow those of 40k but they will be drip fed over time growing in complexity as they go. It isn't like buying straight into the latest 40k starter set with a full rulebook.

For experienced 40k players, it's a cheap way of obtaining figures, scenery and paints.

That's my viewpoint. Mileage may vary.

Deal with it.

The fact remains, you may be spending a lot of money on something that could well be obsolete before you even get it all. That could be an issue for some people. Deal with it.

The fact remains that the models that come with Imperium cannot be obsolete with that part works because the models will be included in scenarios in that magazine. Those scenarios are not necessarily points or power based of even balanced and are independent of that armies current Codex as published by GW.

I'll say it again. Imperium, like Conquest before it, is a self contained product that should not be viewed as mainstream Warhammer 40000.

Veteran players are not necessarily the target customer for Imperium and may be better served cherry picking individual issues or not bothering with it at all.

If a punter doesn't like the idea of a part works, buy a current 40K starter set to get the models now.

Deal with it.

 totalfailure wrote:

The fact remains, you may be spending a lot of money on something that could well be obsolete before you even get it all. That could be an issue for some people. Deal with it.

For sure - but so many people on the internet, including on this forum, have done calculations on the "value" of the stuff you get in these subscriptions and how much money you save. At no point have I ever seen a single one put any actual monetary value on the magazine itself. Which is a shame I think as it includes a tone of stuff found in the Codexes and core rule book, which do have value. But any calculations you see always assume the magazine itself is worthless.

Also worth noting that the magazine is in 5 parts, and the two "lore" sections won't be obsolete with a new edition, nor will the painting guides. Obviously the build instructions won't be obsolete but you'd get those if you bought boxed minis anyway. So it's literally just the rules and scenarios that would be "obsolete" - though I'd argue if you'd never played before, learning 9th edition via the partwork then just learning the changes for a potential 10th would be easier than just jumping in.

alphaecho wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

 totalfailure wrote:
Yes, it seems like a lot of effort to have gone through just to ‘gauge interest’. I got one of the ‘here’s your two issues, get lost’ notices today. I’m not sure I’ll feel like starting a year and a half subscription another year from now. With the way things are going with GW, there may well have been another ‘new’ edition of 40K before you even finish your sub! Not good planning there, parts works guys....

Imperium like Conquest before it shouldn't necessarily be considered as majnstream Warhammer 40000.

Both part works are a games system in its own right and one need not have 40k knowledge to play it.

Yes, the rules follow those of 40k but they will be drip fed over time growing in complexity as they go. It isn't like buying straight into the latest 40k starter set with a full rulebook.

For experienced 40k players, it's a cheap way of obtaining figures, scenery and paints.

That's my viewpoint. Mileage may vary.

Deal with it.

The fact remains, you may be spending a lot of money on something that could well be obsolete before you even get it all. That could be an issue for some people. Deal with it.

The fact remains that the models that come with Imperium cannot be obsolete with that part works because the models will be included in scenarios in that magazine. Those scenarios are not necessarily points or power based of even balanced and are independent of that armies current Codex as published by GW.

I'll say it again. Imperium, like Conquest before it, is a self contained product that should not be viewed as mainstream Warhammer 40000.

Veteran players are not necessarily the target customer for Imperium and may be better served cherry picking individual issues or not bothering with it at all.

If a punter doesn't like the idea of a part works, buy a current 40K starter set to get the models now.

Deal with it.

If it’s purpose is to get people playing, it is in fact a mainstream product, just as any of the other 40K starter sets. I don’t discount that many of the purchasers are in fact, vultures looking to pick it over. But deny all you like, some of the value of the product is introducing people to 40K. And the longer it takes to come out, the more likely it is not going to be that useful at it. Deny that all you like.

I got one of the too bad for you emails and they refunded my money. Kinda makes me want to tell them to screw off come 2022, piss poor customer service, why would I trust them with a weekly payment?

It’s a monthly payment for us, I assumed yours would be too?

Surely it’s a good thing that as the trial to gauge interest has ended, they’ve refunded you rather than just keep the money and still not send for several months.
And if it’s like here, you might now get issues free for having signed up at all.

If I can't trust them to fill a simple trial run, I can't really expect them to fill the actual run. If I order pizza and expect pizza then get told sorry no pizza here's your money back I'm still hungry.

Same deal here, say it comes time to get my first part of the Gulliman sprue, whoops sorry we ran out here's your money back and some free Intercessors. Now I can't build the model whether I'm compensated or not.

I signed up for the trial offer, they delivered nothing. That means the trial has failed because I'm no longer interested in doing business with them.

Great job Hatchette

Thats a stretch of the imagination. Hachette locks into a quantity contract with GW from the beginning. I.E. they order enough for 50,000 copies of each issue and will only allow maybe 49,500 subscriptions against it. The remaining 500 copies are used for replacements for lost/damaged goods and anything that isn't claimed after is put on sale. What you described literally cannot happen.

Sucks that you got your undies in a twist over it, but a trial is a trial - its limited time and limited quantity (and if I understand correctly, also limited to only parts of the US). You tried to sign up for it, and they gave you your money back, don't really see what there is to be upset about.