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Canoptek Reanimator is now 80 points, down from 110. And the Triarch Stalker gains Quantum Shielding.

addressed the apothecary and ATV....finally

The 2021 MUNITORUM FIELD MANUAL is a free download

Lol, the only drukhari list that works getting nerfed. Good thing the codex is coming soon.

Woah, apparently fire and fading lets you embark on transports now.

The 2021 MUNITORUM FIELD MANUAL is a free download

Such a good move by GW! From the bits I've seen so far, this is also a pretty good FAQ. Haven't gone through all of it, but the 'crons and Marines seem to have recieved the right edits imo.

Huh. You can Fire and Fade into wave serpents now.

- Point nerfs to problematic units
- Addressing 1st turn advantage
- Adressing problematic secondaries

and it is free. Great move by GW.

beast_gts wrote:
The 2021 MUNITORUM FIELD MANUAL is a free download

That was a nice change of pace to give it out free now.

Some little adjustments to nid points too.

Nothing major, but the buff to warriors and raveners is nice.
Nerf to zoans.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
Huh. You can Fire and Fade into wave serpents now.

yeah, thats huge for elves in general.

They also updated tau plasma and flamer weapons.

Sisters ate a few nerfs, but they were minor and fair and we got 2 points knocked off of zephyrim as compensation.

Looks like guard infantry went up, including veterans, and I'm a bit confused about Chimera points. Are they base 65 with the hull heavy bolter, and you just add points for turret upgrades?

ERJAK wrote:
Sisters ate a few nerfs, but they were minor and fair and we got 2 points knocked off of zephyrim as compensation.

Ouch, didn't notice them. Will have to check again.

Edit: Oh... found them.

Very early impressions, but most of the changes seem sensible... I'm impressed... until I can test it out at least.

Spoletta wrote:

ERJAK wrote:
Sisters ate a few nerfs, but they were minor and fair and we got 2 points knocked off of zephyrim as compensation.

Ouch, didn't notice them. Will have to check again.

It's just 5 points for the canoness, 1ppm for repentia, 2ppm for retibutors, 2ppm for rhinos. Nothing that's gonna cripple the army.


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Small change at the very beginning of the GT rules, can't choose to go second anymore if you win the die roll...unless I missed that one before.

 necrontyrOG wrote:
Looks like guard infantry went up, including veterans, and I'm a bit confused about Chimera points. Are they base 65 with the hull heavy bolter, and you just add points for turret upgrades?

Anything not listed in the points for the chimera, is free.so it looks like the Multi-laser is free, but you pay for anything else.

- Addressing 1st turn advantage

Missed that one. Where was it?

Local club’s discord seems to feel going second got a boost, but haven’t expanded on why.

Anyone care to weigh in?

Plague marines at 21 points... ouch... Those boys will be very powerful.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Local club’s discord seems to feel going second got a boost, but haven’t expanded on why.

Anyone care to weigh in?

Turn 5 the player going second scores at the end of their TURN not their command phase now.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Local club’s discord seems to feel going second got a boost, but haven’t expanded on why.

Anyone care to weigh in?

More forgiving end game scoring for if your going second for Primary objective and take and hold. Makes playing T5 actually mean something.

Forgive my stupids, but how did work it prior to the change?

Turn 5 the player going second scores at the end of their TURN not their command phase now.

Awesome change. Love this. If only games actually went 5 turns ...

I really do like that change though. I'm glad they addressed the issue.

Forgive my stupids, but how did work it prior to the change?

Both players scored in the Command phase, so on turn 5, Player 1 could immediately score their points and then leave the objectives to make sure they could shut player 2 out from scoring at all.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Forgive my stupids, but how did work it prior to the change?

Second turn player would score at the end of their command phase so BR 5 Turn 2 was almost completely useless for scoring primary.

Some changes to secondary objective scoring - points for Abhor the Witch, for example, went down.

Abhor the witch and bring it down both went significantly down.
You now have to completely table a TS list to score 15, depending on how many chars he brought.

Nerfing bring it down and not nerfing mortifiers...that's a bold move cotton.

Spoletta wrote:

ERJAK wrote:
Sisters ate a few nerfs, but they were minor and fair and we got 2 points knocked off of zephyrim as compensation.

Ouch, didn't notice them. Will have to check again.

Edit: Oh... found them.

Where did you find them, I have been looking and can't

Anyone spot any MAJOR changes in the points costs? Looking at Slaanesh daemons, they stayed largely static.