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It’s like how in so many monster movies they’re invisible if they’re just off screen. They’ll ambush people standing in the open because if the camera can’t see them neither can the victim. Always been a pet peeve of mine.
I'm probably going to enjoy this show. Yes, the public shapeshifting looks cool but doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Yes, the Skrulls remind me of the Zygons with how they need to keep their 'originals' on ice. And yes, someone we were convinced was human is going to be a skrull, and someone we know is a skrull will turn out to be a different skrull.... but that's the kind of show it is.
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It looks like the defense has a strong case while the prosecution, not so much...
Great thing that public opinion already convicted him and he lost the Kang role over it, huh?
Except he's not lost the Kang role yet.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
As far as I can tell, Jonathan Majors will still be portraying Victor Timely in the second season of Loki which is due in early October.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
I know I am super behind, but I just watched the first 3 episodes of She-Hulk.
Seems harmless enough and aping the "Girl-power Lawyer genre" such as Ally McBeal and the like. I guess that is the only one I can think of at the moment. I did enjoy the jabs at the media as entertainment more than informing though.
Knowing that it is in such a genre helps make sense of some of it. However, the obligatory hero fight when two new heroes meet felt especially gratuitous and forced. However, that is a convention of the Super-Hero genre.
Finally, I am not sold on the She-Hulk effects.... at all.
Genre tropes and conventions everywhere!
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"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
Representatives for Majors have long maintained his innocence and his lawyer, Priya Chaudhry, told Newsweek the actor was "provably the victim here," with police at two NYPD precincts finding probable cause to arrest Jabbari.
Chaudhry said that Majors met with the NYPD last week "to present them with evidence of what really happened on that night."
"Within hours of viewing the evidence, and conducting their own thorough investigation, the NYPD found probable cause to arrest Grace Jabbari for assaulting Jonathan Majors," Chaudhry added.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Some call backs and Easter eggs from Groot, Frost Beast, Cull Obsidian and Extremis.
Suggestion of Super Skrulls to come!
Actually quite graphic finger-cutting-off scene. In fact more graphic violence than one might expect from a Marvel show.
Samuel L Jackson and Olivia Colman clearly having a blast.
Also, Brexit confirmed to have happened in the MCU as well.
Shaping up quite nicely if you ask me.
A bit odd, overall.
Went some places that I didn't expect and didn't feel particularly relevant (and the train discussion really made me wonder how old Fury is supposed to be, even with a 5 year time out for the Blip. I have a hard time with the idea that he was a teenager in the early 50s).
I wasn't not expecting the end, but it still felt... off. The bottom suddenly fell off the already tepid sense of urgency, and well... years of time out on a space station. Everybody else has been real bitter about that.
A lot of this reminds me of fan theories during Avengers 1 (and 2) that Fury was some kind of villainous mastermind, as well as a jerk. His people skills seem very... over-estimated.
Some call backs and Easter eggs from Groot, Frost Beast, Cull Obsidian and Extremis.
Suggestion of Super Skrulls to come!
Actually quite graphic finger-cutting-off scene. In fact more graphic violence than one might expect from a Marvel show.
Samuel L Jackson and Olivia Colman clearly having a blast.
Also, Brexit confirmed to have happened in the MCU as well.
Shaping up quite nicely if you ask me.
A bit odd, overall.
Went some places that I didn't expect and didn't feel particularly relevant (and the train discussion really made me wonder how old Fury is supposed to be, even with a 5 year time out for the Blip. I have a hard time with the idea that he was a teenager in the early 50s).
I wasn't not expecting the end, but it still felt... off. The bottom suddenly fell off the already tepid sense of urgency, and well... years of time out on a space station. Everybody else has been real bitter about that.
A lot of this reminds me of fan theories during Avengers 1 (and 2) that Fury was some kind of villainous mastermind, as well as a jerk. His people skills seem very... over-estimated.
I’m not sure he’s so much a jerk, as someone suddenly well out of his depth, who no longer carries quite the same authority he once did. As if the world took his Blip and off-world time as a retirement, restructured its pecking order and moved on.
But I agree with bbb the fairly explicit violence was…unexpected. I myself am not bothered about such things. But it definitely stands out in its inclusion in a mainstream MCU show. And if one was settled in with kids to watch, I can envisage many a “back” button be hastily pressed.
I am enjoying this show though. It’s building up nicely, and moving along at a pretty decent pace. Of course with 2/3rds of its episodes yet to be seen it’s too early to say if it’s going to carry it all off.
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The comments on violence made me go have a look at what rating and warning the episode got. 16+ (for Germany anyway) and only the usual photosensitivity warning. No mention of Jacqueline Bauer making an appearance. Maybe they figured the rating alone suffices, or kids aren't into spy shows?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: But I agree with bbb the fairly explicit violence was…unexpected. I myself am not bothered about such things. But it definitely stands out in its inclusion in a mainstream MCU show. And if one was settled in with kids to watch, I can envisage many a “back” button be hastily pressed.
MCU takes it fairly easy on torture, but is otherwise hardly free of violence and happy murder. Probably not something parents should be unaware of, in my opinion.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Also, this is the 4th D+ show (out of 8) to feature terrorist refugees. Can't they think of any better antagonists?
Unfortunately not.
I miss the days when the MCU was anti-capitalist.
'Displaced persons are the scum of the world' is getting real ugly.
Can we just have villains who are bad because they are bad or greedy or power-hungry, and not because of some trauma they've endured?
I don't get why the Skrulls are so inept at finding a home. Why are they outsourcing it to Nick Fury and Carol Danvers and why isn't anyone complaining about Carol? Nothing about this plot makes sense and I'm not entertained enough to not notice. And where is Fury's massive spy infrastructure we've seen multiple times that he's somehow managed to maintain past the fall of SHIELD?
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I didn’t think it was That graphic. You don’t see the cutter remove the finger, when she holds it up it’s a pretty clean cut, not really dripping blood or anything, and they don’t show the matching hand wound other than bloody rag. There was a bit more time spent on this one, but the MCU has had plenty of severed parts before.
AduroT wrote: I didn’t think it was That graphic. You don’t see the cutter remove the finger, when she holds it up it’s a pretty clean cut, not really dripping blood or anything, and they don’t show the matching hand wound other than bloody rag. There was a bit more time spent on this one, but the MCU has had plenty of severed parts before.
I think it's a combination of the intensity and brutality of it. GotG3 was also way more intense and grotesque than everything previously.
Black Dwarf had his hand cut off. Winter Soldier lost his arm. Thanos lost his head. Thor lost an eye. Nebula was taken apart for punishment. Etc. Those are all dismemberment that happened, but weren't really focused on.
This was a torture scene featuring dismemberment. They show the cut. They show the bloody stump. I don't recall anything similar in the other MCU shows.
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And it’s not an action scene where you might expect injury. It’s colder, which I think is the difference for me.
Similar during the rescue attempt, we see blood trails from knife work. Not gushing by any means, but enough to make it that bit more graphic than many are used to from the MCU.
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bbb wrote: I don't get why the Skrulls are so inept at finding a home. Why are they outsourcing it to Nick Fury and Carol Danvers and why isn't anyone complaining about Carol? Nothing about this plot makes sense and I'm not entertained enough to not notice. And where is Fury's massive spy infrastructure we've seen multiple times that he's somehow managed to maintain past the fall of SHIELD?
What exactly is there to complain about Captain Marvel? She made her priorities pretty clear in Endgame when she bitched about Earth not being the center of the universe and her presence was needed elsewhere instead of literally the one place where the fate of half the life in the universe was decided. So, like, who cares about some shapeshifting hobos? How is that her problem all of a sudden?
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Also, this is the 4th D+ show (out of 8) to feature terrorist refugees. Can't they think of any better antagonists?
Unfortunately not.
I miss the days when the MCU was anti-capitalist.
'Displaced persons are the scum of the world' is getting real ugly.
Can we just have villains who are bad because they are bad or greedy or power-hungry, and not because of some trauma they've endured?
I don't get why the Skrulls are so inept at finding a home. Why are they outsourcing it to Nick Fury and Carol Danvers and why isn't anyone complaining about Carol? Nothing about this plot makes sense and I'm not entertained enough to not notice. And where is Fury's massive spy infrastructure we've seen multiple times that he's somehow managed to maintain past the fall of SHIELD?
On the last bit? It’s alluded that the Skrulls were conquerors. Earth is a civilised world that’s never heard of them. So a world where having renounced their warlike past, they have a clean slate to show other worlds It’s For Realsies This Time.
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I don't get why the Skrulls are so inept at finding a home. Why are they outsourcing it to Nick Fury and Carol Danvers and why isn't anyone complaining about Carol? Nothing about this plot makes sense and I'm not entertained enough to not notice. And where is Fury's massive spy infrastructure we've seen multiple times that he's somehow managed to maintain past the fall of SHIELD?
Well...
apparently he let the spy infrastructure lapse so the plot could happen.
Disney didn't pay for Carol in this show, so they aren't going to talk about her.
The Skrull's 'ineptitude' is getting hints dropped.... but honestly, yeah. The GotG once crashed on a seemingly uninhabited forest planet and Rocket was working with Carol pre-Blip-restoration, so... that requires basically one conversation along the lines of 'hey, you know any uninhabited planets?' and job done. 'Immunity to radiation' gives a far wider profile for viable settlements
Can we just have villains who are bad because they are bad or greedy or power-hungry, and not because of some trauma they've endured?
Truthfully, I like villains with real motivations, they're just going back to this particular well too frequently, and tarring a lot of people with a really bad brush.
Also given what some of them are doing and how they're living, there's really no reason for the rest to be refugee squatters. A million (less casualties) shapeshifters in a population of 7 billion is effectively invisible- 0.014% of the population.
They could have several 'perfectly normal towns'
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What I feel from the show is that it's got a lot of good ideas, but the groundwork to explore them hasn't really been laid. This idea that Fury's spy network has been Skrulls the whole time is awesome but the bits of this haven't been set up in a particularly compelling way, largely because Fury himself has been so out of the MCU since Winter Soldier. The lack of any of these characters in general makes it very hard to get invested the way the story expects. This needed to be built up in other ways than "I guess that wasn't Nick in Spiderman" and "Nick has a lawnchair in space".
And where are all the spaceships that the million Skrulls used to get to earth?
The million Skrulls all came to earth after Fury got ashed because they had no place better to go in a halfly depopulated universe? Did no Skrulls get ashed?
Why don't the terrorist refugee Skrulls go terrorize the Kree instead of earthlings?
bbb wrote: And where are all the spaceships that the million Skrulls used to get to earth?
The million Skrulls all came to earth after Fury got ashed because they had no place better to go in a halfly depopulated universe? Did no Skrulls get ashed?
Why don't the terrorist refugee Skrulls go terrorize the Kree instead of earthlings?
Shhhh, stop bringing up valid points, just turn your brain off and mindlessly watch the next episode. /s
Also, this is the 4th D+ show (out of 8) to feature terrorist refugees. Can't they think of any better antagonists?
Unfortunately not.
I miss the days when the MCU was anti-capitalist.
'Displaced persons are the scum of the world' is getting real ugly.
Can we just have villains who are bad because they are bad or greedy or power-hungry, and not because of some trauma they've endured?
I don't get why the Skrulls are so inept at finding a home. Why are they outsourcing it to Nick Fury and Carol Danvers and why isn't anyone complaining about Carol? Nothing about this plot makes sense and I'm not entertained enough to not notice. And where is Fury's massive spy infrastructure we've seen multiple times that he's somehow managed to maintain past the fall of SHIELD?
I mean... Why they can't find a home was more or less stated. They didn't get the destruction of skrullos because they avoided war. It was because they liked war too much. The Skrulls made themselves hated enemies across the galaxy. The kree may have been attempting genocide. But they were doing it to an enemy who had a past of infiltration, destabilization, and murder themselves. Why can't they find a new world on their own? Because everyone else remembers what the Skrulls were and don't want that on their world.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
bbb wrote: And where are all the spaceships that the million Skrulls used to get to earth?
The million Skrulls all came to earth after Fury got ashed because they had no place better to go in a halfly depopulated universe? Did no Skrulls get ashed?
Why don't the terrorist refugee Skrulls go terrorize the Kree instead of earthlings?
Shhhh, stop bringing up valid points, just turn your brain off and mindlessly watch the next episode. /s
Well, we know cloaking tech exists. And there’s nothing to suggest they couldn’t have hitched a ride. That we haven’t seen the ships on-screen proves nothing.
Earth was already populated by Skrulls. And seemingly largely unaware. For a species actively hunted, that’s an appealing home. I mean, we have shelter, food and comforts. Would you rather than, or take your chance roughing it?
Because the Kree have ways of spotting Skrulls and nobody wants to get dead in the face as a result?
It’s not rocket science.
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