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Solid second episode. I like seeing Loki having a bit more of his villainous edge while still working towards a common goal with the TVA crew. The relationship between him and Mobius is pretty great.

Sylvie stuff is interesting.

It was really good to see him get to use his magic.

Another great episode. I'm already sad we only have 4 more to go. I'm praying we see Thor make an appearance somehow but I'm not holding my breath.

 AduroT wrote:
It was really good to see him get to use his magic.

Yeah, he felt more like Loki than 'some guy running about.' Season 1 made him feel a little too normal.

I'm not sure what's going on with Sylvie, though. Her sense of petty blame is... weird, considering she got what she wanted out of season 1.

The temporal mechanics of this one also feels a little odd. The rogues' actions seem pointless in a continually branching multiverse. They played it real hard for the emotion, but honestly... that's a hard turnaround for the general population of the TVA. They were perfectly happy doing this on the regular just... yesterday. I get why the major Hunter character cares, but not so much anyone else.

I think She-Hulk gets panned unfairly.

It has some very smart writing behind it. You can not de-construct the way they do, without first knowing how the thing you are de-constructing works.

They knew how it worked, and that is going to get a reaction. Probably a negative one.

Voss wrote:
The temporal mechanics of this one also feels a little odd. The rogues' actions seem pointless in a continually branching multiverse. They played it real hard for the emotion, but honestly... that's a hard turnaround for the general population of the TVA. They were perfectly happy doing this on the regular just... yesterday. I get why the major Hunter character cares, but not so much anyone else.

They had a crack at addressing this. Their Gods are dead (and you can look at their heads in the meeting room) and the variants/branching time lines were abstract things to be returned to nothingness, but real places fun of real people. Namely them, as that is where they came from. Might not be enough, but I think it was well enough handled. Biggest issue was I think scale - they clearly have massive facilities, but seeing a few dozen soldiers marc off didn't make much sense without a montage or other areas or a line from a character saying this is happening everywhere in the TVA.

Scale is definitely an issue, though I assume most of that is not wanting to crowd in extras.

But I'm not clear on how much knowledge is really spread around. The three bosses and Brad know about the robot head, but does the rank and file? 2 of the 3 'bosses' (sleepy guy and the other woman) just vanished out of the story (just as easily as they appeared out of nowhere) while Dox(?) took her ~20 guys to do their pointless mass murder.

The TVA as a whole probably knows something is up (there are alerts and whatever), but like the scale, how much time they've really had to process that (and what it means) is wildly up in the air.

They've been doing this for, functionally, infinite time- as long as they can remember. A 'last blast' scenario hammers the meta-narrative home for the audience, but for the people who've been doing this forever? The transition from 'this is our day job' to 'this is a horror beyond imagination' feels really weird. People can't transition their moral framework that fast.

Funnily, what the TVA just did is the same thing Sylvie did when she bombed the sacred timeline. Sylvies mass charges caused a ton of pruning on the timeline causing branches. Their mass bombing is to the branches.

Kind of reinforces the greatest lie line from loki in s1. No one good is every truly good. And no one evil is ever truly evil.

These actions are crimes or solutions depending on perspective.

Episode 3 is not what I expected, but both the animators and Tara Strong did a fantastic job with Miss Minutes.

The writers too. There's a lot of subtle touches where they're actually paying attention and tying things together.

Yeah, e3 was another home run for me. They really hit that retro vibe with the music and the sets and all the running around. I must echo Voss' praise for Miss Minutes, she was terrific in this episode. Majors' performance was great, I really look forward to seeing more of Kang fleshed out.

I definitely wish more of phase 4 was this good. The fact that they're killing it with Loki just shows they still have some creative juice to squeeze out of Marvel, if only they'd resist the urge to shotgun as much crap onto Disney plus as they can.

E3 was almost good? I get they wanted more of a Chicago caper, but the notes fell a bit flat? I think it was missing a bit of pace? Otherwise you could have had a fun standard straight guy/non straight chase caper?

I get they wanted more of a Chicago caper, but the notes fell a bit flat?

It did feel a bit pressed for time at points.

Particularly the earlier time frame. They walked maybe halfway around a 'block' and just decided there was nothing to find.

It was more than entertaining enough for the set up they're doing, though I'm curious which is the red herring and if the season is going to be too short.

Kevin Feige Confirms All Marvel Films and TV Shows Are Part Of The MCU Multiverse - Nerdist

What is canon and what is not to the MCU has been a topic of fervent fan debate for years. Is Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., which referenced the events of Avengers, actual MCU canon? What about the former Netflix shows like Daredevil, which also made mention of Avengers like Captain America and Thor? Well, we now have an answer to that question from the guy in charge, Kevin Feige. In his introduction to the book Marvel Studios: The Marvel Cinematic Universe—An Official Timeline, he wrote the following:

On the Multiverse note, we recognize that there are stories—movies and series—that are canonical to Marvel but that were created by different storytellers during different periods of Marvel’s history. The timeline presented in this book is specific to the MCU’s Sacred Timeline through Phase 4. But, as we move forward and dive deeper into the Multiverse Saga, you never know when timelines may crash or converge (hint, hint/spoiler alert).

We'll have to wait and see of it actually happens.

That headline is a bit of a reach...

The quote doesn't say anything we didn't already know. Marvel Studios content is the MCU "sacred timeline". Everything else is retroactively in the multiverse, including the Marvel TV productions.

It's not as if he went on Twitter and posted #COULSONLIVES or something like that.

He gave the diplomatic "It's all part of the multiverse" bit of corporate waffle, and nothing actually changes.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's not as if he went on Twitter and posted #COULSONLIVES or something like that.

He gave the diplomatic "It's all part of the multiverse" bit of corporate waffle, and nothing actually changes.

It’s a little bit more than that; the last line implies that they’re certainly thinking about bringing back some bits that they binned off previously. But agree, the headline is massively overstating what was written.

the last line implies that they’re certainly thinking about bringing back some bits that they binned off previously.

Does it? Or is it just teasing FF and Xmen?

I wouldn't get too excited about that. Look up Transformers Aligned Continuity...

 Just Tony wrote:
I wouldn't get too excited about that. Look up Transformers Aligned Continuity...

Which was SOOOO GOOD when it started. Those games ruled and transformers prime is some of the best its ever been.

Yeah that scene was... they're doing such a good job of showing some truly horrific stuff and keeping it PG13. Ms Minute's look of genuine delight just made it that much more disconcerting. Ending the episode where they did was so cruel.

Was…was that an Endrin for Kharadon Overlords used as a Greelblie??

feth this shiw is good. Loki is some top tier MCU content.

My question is, are all those pies key lime?
Because that's just gross.

Also, holy feth the facial expressions.
Where has all this acting (and writing) been in D+ shows (and phase 5 in general)?

No, let me amend that. Why have they been hiding this level of writing? Because that was good. Just... excellent. Things connected, there was tension, consequences, people reacted, acted, plotted, twists, turns. The whole actual product sang.

The best is a episode 4 cliff hanger that wraps up all the loose ends from episode 1 so the next 2 episodes can be anything. I literally have no idea what could possibly happen next.

Everything in all the promo materials has been shown in the show. I am pumped for next week.

Also I totally knew who was gonna prune Loki.

Voss wrote:
My question is, are all those pies key lime?
Because that's just gross.

Also, holy feth the facial expressions.
Where has all this acting (and writing) been in D+ shows (and phase 5 in general)?

No, let me amend that. Why have they been hiding this level of writing? Because that was good. Just... excellent. Things connected, there was tension, consequences, people reacted, acted, plotted, twists, turns. The whole actual product sang.

Honestly though. If they can produce at this level more consistently, they might just get people to start caring again.

They’re not pies. See the pie thread for why.

And I’m not entirely sure they’re Key Lime? Whilst I’ve only had British versions, the filling seems much too translucent for Key Lime?

The pie thread. It gets everywhere

 Lance845 wrote:
The best is a episode 4 cliff hanger that wraps up all the loose ends from episode 1 so the next 2 episodes can be anything. I literally have no idea what could possibly happen next.

Everything in all the promo materials has been shown in the show. I am pumped for next week.

That cut to black and then the discordant post-modern music? That is a bold, artistic, choice. Literally left me with my mouth open.