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That set looks fantastic Insaniak! You can see that it is the original designs, but improved - brilliant.
That original Necro terrain was great. Remember a mate and I both had a set and it was more than enough, and as kids our terrain was usually crap (upturned mugs and household ornaments as scatter terrain) - the cardboard set felt like it was lightyears ahead!
For a start, it was surprisingly stable. And the little buttresses provided sneaky bits of cover for fighters.
In fact, I’d argue that terrain made Necromunda the success it was. Granted you typically wanted to combine two or three sets per board, but for a skirmish game so reliant on height and cover, had it not been included? I think it would’ve fizzled out, as not everyone is a dab hand at making interesting, interactive scenery.
I mean, pretty much anyone can make a basic solid box building and tart it up with greeblies. But to have platforms, varying LoS blocks, walk ways and serious height variation? That’s a taller order.
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For a start, it was surprisingly stable. And the little buttresses provided sneaky bits of cover for fighters.
In fact, I’d argue that terrain made Necromunda the success it was. Granted you typically wanted to combine two or three sets per board, but for a skirmish game so reliant on height and cover, had it not been included? I think it would’ve fizzled out, as not everyone is a dab hand at making interesting, interactive scenery.
I mean, pretty much anyone can make a basic solid box building and tart it up with greeblies. But to have platforms, varying LoS blocks, walk ways and serious height variation? That’s a taller order.
That goes to another strength of "old" GW: two game boxes allowed a satisfying game. The starter sets were very complete compared to later versions.
So yes, if you buy the game and a friend does the same (so you both have your own books, templates, etc.) you can trade figures and have a decent force selection and enough terrain for viable battlefield. The 40k of the same vintage was the same - the foundation of my 40k collection (which I still own) was four tactical squads. Add a tank, a captain and a heavy weapons squad and you're on your way to a "take all comers" ready force.
Pacific wrote: ...and as kids our terrain was usually crap (upturned mugs and household ornaments as scatter terrain) -
Some of the best Necro games I ever had were actually with scrounged 'terrain'... Towards the end of 2nd edition, I gave all of my terrain to a mate for helping me move into a new apartment, as I didn't have room for it. Had several games of Necro in that apartment on my large, round coffee table, using food cans, plastic containers, random boxes, and anything else I had laying around that fit on the table, and used wooden rulers and strips of cardboard for catwalks. Looked a bit rubbish, but made for a surprisingly effective battlefield!
insaniak wrote: Some of the best Necro games I ever had were actually with scrounged 'terrain'... Towards the end of 2nd edition, I gave all of my terrain to a mate for helping me move into a new apartment, as I didn't have room for it. Had several games of Necro in that apartment on my large, round coffee table, using food cans, plastic containers, random boxes, and anything else I had laying around that fit on the table, and used wooden rulers and strips of cardboard for catwalks. Looked a bit rubbish, but made for a surprisingly effective battlefield!
Yes, but the aesthetic really adds to much to the game experience. The urban nightmare boards really intrigued me about 40k and were a significant factor in my giving it a try. I'm now on my third generation of terrain and (like everything else), I'm always adding some details or tweaking bits. Unlike the models, I've maxed out the quantity because storage is now an issue.
My softback is somewhere, lost in the depths of storage, but a Hardback will be a welcome addition to my collection.
I kind of wish GW reprinted all their previous editions as MTO releases, I'm sure oldhammer players would snap em up if given a chance to buy all released books for a given edition without having to jump through major hoops
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
I have to imagine the original files will be in GWHQsomewhere. And whilst I’m sure they’d need some work, likely more than i can personally imagine, to modernise? Most of the work in getting a book on shelves is done.
We’ve seen Rogue Trader and both Realm of Chaos done and available from Warhammer World and other select stores. Just add Waaargh! The Orks and maybe the other two Orky books, and Let Us Have Them.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Price should be around £41, as if memory serves, that’s the WHW price.
As for your copy? Original for posterity and nostalgia, reprint for perusal.
The issue is limited hobby funds. Which do I want/need more? A new copy of a book I already own, or shiny new minis to add to the pile of shame? Because the new minis are really shiny...
And that’s the same price as a box of terminators.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Ah, but are those shiny miniatures going anywhere in a hurry? Because the book is!
Can you tell I used to be a GW Till Monkey? And a good one at that!
Heh. You FOMO powers are strong, but this is not my first rodeo.
I have a couple years’ budget worth of things I want to buy on my covet list already. This will probably just join the list of things I wistfully sigh at as they drift pass.
If they ever re-did some of the 2nd ed codexes, i might spring for the ones not on my shelf. But it takes a LOT for me to replace things I already own.
My big self-indulgence with last year's Xmas bonus was paying an eBay flipper to ship me the Rogue Trader and both Realm of Chaos reprints over here across the pond.
I don't regret the (extra) cost. The quality of those reprints is gorgeous and solid. I've pored over them over and over again in the last year.
Now, if they'd do the same for Warhammer Fantasy Battle 3e, I could replace my poor, battered copy of that, too.
These illustrations make "Heroic scale" make much more sense than in GW's models, interesting..
thanks for sharing!
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
Wow those are so cool, definitely a very talented artist!
And I now want to do some classic Salamanders in camo scheme..
Yes, thanks for sharing!
I do have an issue with an underslung rocket launcher though: the backblast. This is a known thing, and if it was possible to not have them so high up, they wouldn't be, but you really don't want to risk having your rear leg anywhere near the thing when you cut loose with it.
Also, is it just me, or are the Orks just a little too "civilized"?
Wow those are so cool, definitely a very talented artist!
And I now want to do some classic Salamanders in camo scheme..
Yes, thanks for sharing!
I do have an issue with an underslung rocket launcher though: the backblast. This is a known thing, and if it was possible to not have them so high up, they wouldn't be, but you really don't want to risk having your rear leg anywhere near the thing when you cut loose with it.
Also, is it just me, or are the Orks just a little too "civilized"?
Overall, very cool though.
I think Orks have gradually become more bestial/less civilised as the background has progressed over the years. If you think of the Stormboyz marching around in human-like gear, Orks conversing with humans in some old artwork etc. There was so much depth in the original RT books, a hell of a lot more anthropomorphised, much of which has now been replaced with 'krump it'
Random drop in. Found that I still have these while I was bagging up some old White Dwarfs. Even the 2001 catalog is starting to look like an antique. I like having it around to compare how much things changed in those few years.
youwashock wrote: Random drop in. Found that I still have these while I was bagging up some old White Dwarfs. Even the 2001 catalog is starting to look like an antique. I like having it around to compare how much things changed in those few years.
Those 96-97 catalogues are my bibles! Those are what we had when we started the hobby and perused the hell out of them! Still have them around and always love flicking through them!
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