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 tauist wrote:

 youwashock wrote:

 tauist wrote:

 Pacific wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Which means if other Old Grognards decide to dust off their old rule books? Even starting an army from scratch isn’t massively expensive..

I got no idea what to use my Eldar Pirates as though.. werent they strictly a Rogue Trader affair? As in, they never got rules for 2nd ed..?

They were a unit in the 2nd Ed codex.

Awesome, thanks for that! Time to read through that one..

From memory corsairs were a hangover from Rogue Trader (as that is what Eldar were really in that edition, before WD127 and them being fully realised) - like Squats, they didn't ever get any new miniatures released (I think) and so we're a bit of an anomaly within the 2ed codex.

If you haven't got hold of the Eldar Codex there is a 'Battle Bible' for 40k which includes all of the rules, army books, FAQ rule clarifications and other bits in handy PDF form if you want to look anything up:
https://archive.org/details/w-40-k-2nd-ed-battle-bible-1.7.2

Shower thoughts today about how IF I was to play 40K again it would be in 2nd edition, even though I think that 3rd/4th was the best set of rules, or best game.
The reason, is that my favourite army, CSM, became increasingly action-figure-y, cartoony after 2nd ed. I really dislike the Defiler and Obliterators, they are silly concepts and look terrible. Later I would have the same reaction to the Heldrake. And then the Lord of Skulls!
Anyway that's my little rant. I'm bored between online meetings here.

I had not seen this thread yesterday when looking for 2nd edition era threads (thank you Mad Dok).

2nd edition was an old memory of my days playing it through its entire lifespan. I enjoyed it immensely but moved on once it was replaced by third.

Fast forward 25+ years and I stumbled upon recent battle reports of 2nd edition via YouTube. The nostalgia hit hard. I found someone selling the old boxset and Dark Millennium and made the purchase.

With GW owning the IP, it is amazing to see just how many new sculpts are still playable under 2nd edition. Back then, nobody compared to GW models. Now, well, they look dated. I'm not going to seek out an original Azreal when I have the current Azrael which is one of my favorite models. Therefore, old rules but with new models. And with that, I am definitely going to build an Ork army. I loved those rules but was always intimidated to build and paint so many models (what appeared to e a lot of models back then).

I've already got one guy on board. Time to play and demo it to attract more players.

 Cap'n Facebeard wrote:
Shower thoughts today about how IF I was to play 40K again it would be in 2nd edition, even though I think that 3rd/4th was the best set of rules, or best game.
The reason, is that my favourite army, CSM, became increasingly action-figure-y, cartoony after 2nd ed. I really dislike the Defiler and Obliterators, they are silly concepts and look terrible. Later I would have the same reaction to the Heldrake. And then the Lord of Skulls!
Anyway that's my little rant. I'm bored between online meetings here.

You could always simply not run the models you dislike. I personally refuse to run the 3.5 codex as I feel it's terribly imbalanced.

Chaos has had a rough ride through the editions, as each seems to have embraced one facet to the exclusion of others, when all should’ve been valid approaches.

A huge, whacking “drop it on your granny and you might get your inheritance early” Codex. That’s what Chaos deserves.

An absolutely mind boggling riot of options, open for the individual player to assemble into a force pleasing to themself.

Thought you grognards might appreciate what I got in the mail today:

Sarigar wrote:
I had not seen this thread yesterday when looking for 2nd edition era threads (thank you Mad Dok).

2nd edition was an old memory of my days playing it through its entire lifespan. I enjoyed it immensely but moved on once it was replaced by third.

Fast forward 25+ years and I stumbled upon recent battle reports of 2nd edition via YouTube. The nostalgia hit hard. I found someone selling the old boxset and Dark Millennium and made the purchase.

With GW owning the IP, it is amazing to see just how many new sculpts are still playable under 2nd edition. Back then, nobody compared to GW models. Now, well, they look dated. I'm not going to seek out an original Azreal when I have the current Azrael which is one of my favorite models. Therefore, old rules but with new models. And with that, I am definitely going to build an Ork army. I loved those rules but was always intimidated to build and paint so many models (what appeared to e a lot of models back then).

I've already got one guy on board. Time to play and demo it to attract more players.

Amen brother! 2nd edition with current models is where its at for me as well. I only had Rogue Trader back in the day

Guys, Gals, Non-Binary Pals.

I’ve had a brilliant idea.

I’ve got the 2nd Ed Chaos Codex (and all the others, so there). And it has….The Daemon World List.

And I’ll soon be in need of a new hobby project.

Are you thinking what I’m thinking?


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Wait. No. It’s actually pretty boring. Just a Daemon army as they are, but with Chaos Warriors and Trolls and Minotaurs and that.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Guys, Gals, Non-Binary Pals.

I’ve had a brilliant idea.


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Wait. No. It’s actually pretty boring. Just a Daemon army as they are, but with Chaos Warriors and Trolls and Minotaurs and that.

- Every player who tried to list build with the 2ED appendices.

The bonus is you could make up your own daemon prince, and were encouraged to make them OP

True that!


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Don’t get me wrong. For a keen and talented converter or scratch builder, there’s a lot there to play with.

For instance, your Trolls, Beastmen and Minotaurs could be anything of similar model size really, even guff from WarmaHordes if all sense of taste has fled you

Oh nostalgia, it arrived....

Nice!

I’ve completed my 2nd Ed box and book collection, and now I’m considering seeking out a copy of every WD released during its tenure. Which will also help round out my 2nd Ed Epic collection.

Trouble there of course, is trying to find complete copies, without the cardboard section removed.

Collecting WDs has got to be rough, even if you are OK with them without the extras. Seems that they would be a lot more likely to end up in the bin, and the weight to ship any volume of them would get ugly.

Nevelon wrote:Collecting WDs has got to be rough, even if you are OK with them without the extras. Seems that they would be a lot more likely to end up in the bin, and the weight to ship any volume of them would get ugly.

The price per magazine isn't bad in the UK, but the shipping can reach double digits. However, sometimes they are close enough to collect in person if you live near a big city.

I started collecting the 40k 3rd edition magazines and the rate is £1-2/mag if you poke around enough. They were produced in large numbers and the older ones (before 3rd) are easy to find digital copies of online so I suspect the demand is not all that high.

 Nevelon wrote:
Collecting WDs has got to be rough, even if you are OK with them without the extras. Seems that they would be a lot more likely to end up in the bin, and the weight to ship any volume of them would get ugly.

Here in Australia the price per mag is about $10 AUD (~5 GBP). They come up quite regularly. I've been trying to get all the issues with extra rules, army lists for 6th ed

Hunting for pdfs of them has become a bit hit and miss, the online repositories I used to know have all been destroyed, it seems.

Well this is potentially exciting. Generating some genuine interest from a relatively local gaming group for some 2nd Ed games.

Nothing concrete just yet, but have offered to run an exhibition game, and brings my books for their perusal.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Well this is potentially exciting. Generating some genuine interest from a relatively local gaming group for some 2nd Ed games.

Nothing concrete just yet, but have offered to run an exhibition game, and brings my books for their perusal.

That sounds great. I wonder what armies would make the best exhibition game? Maybe avoid close combat hordes until later.

I can do a near mirror match in Marines, using my Heresy toys with a little “counts as” when it comes to exact loadout.

Yes marines would be the easiest. I wonder if even elite, low wargear eldar would do well

I do have my 2nd Ed Eldar project (using modern models), but I’m yet to paint those.

For Marines I can do Tactical, Assault, Devastator, and two squads of 5 Terminator with those delicious 2nd Ed Lightning Claws.

Dreads? Well if we’re both using Contemptors, the size difference between the 2nd Ed model and those is irrelevant, as nobody gains an advantage. Only thing there is none of my 8 have the same loadout. Hence a little “counts as” will help.

My favorite thing I have ever seen in anybgame ever is what brought ne into the hobby back in the olden days...


And the memories still burn bright.
Now. as I read every new Skaven codex hoping I can see a little bit of their old glory... and then remembering the ultimate saying...
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.


In this moment of.glory I watched a giant 6,000 point Skaven army disintegrate into the biggest cluster of death and destruction I'd ever seen (I've never seen carnage like this since) on the Skavens OWN TURN.

Warp fire throwers spun around blowing up skaven slaves, the Doomwheel ran amok and mowed down multiple blocks of clan rats, and the Screaming Bell "cracked" and 70 percent of his army which was hugging the board edge disappeared like David Copperfield was performing, "And now I'll make your army... dissapear!"

That was the most fun ive ever had and the Empire player on the other side just stand there mouth agape.

I remember and miss the wacky and fun and totally unbalanced Warhammer.

I just can't remember what edition that was.

The Doomwheel suggests it was an earlier one, as it wasn’t available as a model or a unit for a decent period.

Maybe 4th or 5th Edition I’d reckon. I loved that period, so much random destruction!

 Cap'n Facebeard wrote:
Yes marines would be the easiest. I wonder if even elite, low wargear eldar would do well

For Eldar, I think a Guardian heavy force would be better for an exhibition army. Throw in too much elite stuff and there are a lot of special rules and beardy goings on, which can get confusing for those unfamiliar with the system.

I was thinking some small units of simple aspects, say striking scorpions and fire dragons, with no exarchs

Out of the past & from the depths of a storage unit.

The box it was in was a complete loss.
But the tank inside? After a warm soapy disinfecting bath was in perfect condition - save for the couple of scratches on the rear of the turret.

Ooh very nice. If you're ever short of cash the Armorcast stuff sells quite well. Recently sold one of their ork tanks for literally 10 times what I paid for it

Anyone for a Dropbox link to every 3rd-5th Ed WHFB Battle Report published in White Dwarf?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1gw4q6lmdfx2u7wa1g68t/Warhammer-Fantasy-Battle-Reports-3rd-5th-Edition.pdf?rlkey=g2p14mcjnuxxdijfotmbe9msh&e=2&st=k51ark34&bmus=1&dl=0

Hey, just wanted to hop in and say I finally tracked down copies of the 2E rulebook, wargear book, and codex imperialis.

I cut my teeth on GW with 2nd ed back in '95/'96, but only one of our players had the actual rules.

I've been meaning to do an Inquisimunda thing using 2E rules in OG Necromunda and I'm so excited about finally getting these books after all these years.

One of us! One of us! One of us!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
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Gooble gobble! Gooble gobble!