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tneva82 wrote:

Billicus wrote:
With no new units what is there to even say really? Slight rules wording changes and adjustments on preexisting crap don't make for much of a preview. Save your money on this one, there'll be zero heart in it

Even with just old models necrons turned upside down.

If there's　something you can count with gw it's changes. Non-change doesn't get people replace old army lists to new ones.

Same for my Death Guard, I didn't even try the new terrain piece or the new Lord yet but my army plays nothing like before even though my lists are roughly the same as before.

 harlokin wrote:
What is the currency? GW sells the new dice sets at £20 each AFAIK, so the listed price here aint in pounds.

As they list both english and french, I'm gonna guess its Canadian dollars. That's a guess though.

Leggy wrote:

 harlokin wrote:
What is the currency? GW sells the new dice sets at £20 each AFAIK, so the listed price here aint in pounds.

As they list both english and french, I'm gonna guess its Canadian dollars. That's a guess though.

Its US. If it were Canada that'd be a pretty significant price cut to the cost of Combat Patrols and Codex.

Leggy wrote:

 harlokin wrote:
What is the currency? GW sells the new dice sets at £20 each AFAIK, so the listed price here aint in pounds.

As they list both english and french, I'm gonna guess its Canadian dollars. That's a guess though.

It's 100% American dollars, US and Canadian retailers get the same sell sheets (hence french language), but thats the USD column as the price point for combat patrols in USD is $140 whereas in CAD its $170

Really shouldn't have been hard to come up with 5 days of stuff.

In no particular order:

1. Crusade Rules.
2. Changes to existing Army Mechanics - i.e. how you build the army, PFP, Drugs etc. Okay the article is a bit weak if nothing has changed - but even that's still news. Are the custom traits from PA being carried over verbatim? Etc.
3. *New non-Souping Mechanic, what is it and what does it do* (okay this may be the gap, going to be bitter if so but what can you do.)
4. Most improved units. I.E. Write a paragraph on how triple lance Ravagers are back and show a photo+datasheet of one.
5. New chapter tactics/warlord traits/relics/stratagems (again, assuming there will be some.)

Hoping there's something tomorrow otherwise yes, maybe its time to start being a bit nervous.

Every Drukhari player right now:

20 dice for $35

Holy crap that is outrageous!

Voss wrote:
I kinda hate the fact that I'm surprised P&P has a lower price than I expected. It means they're normalizing these absurd price points.

$60 for the almost-no-content Book of Rust seems laughable.
Its 96 pages!

I get the feeling that the PA books sold well enough that GW believes they can cash in on more campaign tomfoolery. I was thinking of buying the book but after seeing that price point I went immediately into "nope" territory. 60$ for a couple of rules(which is what a lot of people will be buying this for) is just ridiculous. For that price they should have combined the campaign book and crusade book into one book for 60$.

It would be a bit more bearable if I had the option for digital ePubs/pdf's at a reduced price.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Sure, but in this particular instance I can understand the anxiety waiting to see if GW will pull this off or land a dud.

I, for one, simply cannot wait to see the Scourge unit entry.

Hard pass for me on the campaign book.

 Red Corsair wrote:
20 dice for $35

Holy crap that is outrageous!

Nothing new there. Its pretty much standard for faction dice- hedonites (sold out), daughters of khaine and space wolves are still up on the store for the same price.

They're completely optional pure cosmetic items for enthusiasts, custom jobs with a limited print run. /shrug

Datacards are much worse to me, given they're completely useless after a few years.

Tyel wrote:
Really shouldn't have been hard to come up with 5 days of stuff.

In no particular order:

1. Crusade Rules.
2. Changes to existing Army Mechanics - i.e. how you build the army, PFP, Drugs etc. Okay the article is a bit weak if nothing has changed - but even that's still news. Are the custom traits from PA being carried over verbatim? Etc.
3. *New non-Souping Mechanic, what is it and what does it do* (okay this may be the gap, going to be bitter if so but what can you do.)
4. Most improved units. I.E. Write a paragraph on how triple lance Ravagers are back and show a photo+datasheet of one.
5. New chapter tactics/warlord traits/relics/stratagems (again, assuming there will be some.)

Hoping there's something tomorrow otherwise yes, maybe its time to start being a bit nervous.

GW is highly inconsistent when it comes to how many days of preview articles they give. Death Guard had 5, one which was "look at this new rule for Disgustingly Resilient". Dark Angels had 4. Space Wolves had 3. I'm sure we will see something on Tuesday. Wonder what they want to show first?

Voss wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
20 dice for $35

Holy crap that is outrageous!

Nothing new there. Its pretty much standard for faction dice- hedonites (sold out), daughters of khaine and space wolves are still up on the store for the same price.

They're completely optional pure cosmetic items for enthusiasts, custom jobs with a limited print run. /shrug

Datacards are much worse to me, given they're completely useless after a few years.

I agree. I'm normally a sucker for fancy dice, but while they are now very useable, I don't like the colour or the symbol on the Drukhari ones.

I'll almost certainly end up getting the cards though...

Spoletta wrote:
Hard pass for me on the campaign book.

I think it will be a hard pass for a lot of people..

Strange. I'd've thought that Dark Eldar players would be lining up to pay a further $60 to get 3 pages of rules that should have been in their Codex to begin with.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Strange. I'd've thought that Dark Eldar players would be lining up to pay a further $60 to get 3 pages of rules that should have been in their Codex to begin with.

Right? im not advocating for piracy (tos), but that is how you get piracy

 warmaster21 wrote:
Right? im not advocating for piracy (tos), but that is how you get piracy

It got said somewhere else - but I think GW's taken the view that it doesn't matter.
All the books are adverts for the models.

I guess if they sell literally none there will be questions of waste - but if a relatively small number go "that's exactly the hook I needed to collect a new Knights/Ad Mech/DE/DG army" - whether they buy the book or not - then the intellectual effort will have paid for itself multiple times over.

And also, much like all concerns of GW's pricing - you know a lot of people will just go and buy it because that's what they do.

I mean I think PA was a damp squib. But I suspect GW's analysts would say it turned the coals very successfully - lots of people got interested in new conceptual armies, and rushed out to buy more plastic.

I was such a big advocate for GW doing campaign book releases.

Had I know where it would lead I never would have said a word.

Voss wrote:

$60 for the almost-no-content Book of Rust seems laughable.
Its 96 pages!

Yea that's a head scratcher. The marine codex is over 200. Makes no sense.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I was such a big advocate for GW doing campaign book releases.

Had I know where it would lead I never would have said a word.

I still remember their 7th ed campaing books like Shield of Baal and Warzone Damaclese that had lots of fluff and rules. Their current campaign books don't come close to matching that kind of value.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I was such a big advocate for GW doing campaign book releases.

Had I know where it would lead I never would have said a word.

With GW, "be careful what you wish for" is true more often than not.

Something we seem to be reminded of more and more these days...

I'm willing to bet $5 you can get custom dice from some other vendor so you wouldn't need to pay that amount.

The bigger youtube channels that do battle reports will most likely have their copies of the codex before they go on sale.

Tabletop Titans, Tabletop Tactics, Miniwargaming, amongst others will probably get theirs this weekend (depends on shipping and availability of course).

Glad to see the $170 on the Piety, though unironically even though I play Sisters I really don't need/want any of the Sisters except Palatine and I'll just buy her seperate on ebay. The Drukhari half and the combat patrol box wouldn't be a bad start to an army.

jivardi wrote:
Glad to see the $170 on the Piety, though unironically even though I play Sisters I really don't need/want any of the Sisters except Palatine and I'll just buy her seperate on ebay. The Drukhari half and the combat patrol box wouldn't be a bad start to an army.

Can anyone remember how much the Eldar/Dark Eldar box was, for comparison's sake?

I bought the Vigilus books and most of the PA books. In conjunction with the 40k Risk map, I'm all good for GW campaign play. Not going for another round at these insane prices.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

jivardi wrote:
Glad to see the $170 on the Piety, though unironically even though I play Sisters I really don't need/want any of the Sisters except Palatine and I'll just buy her seperate on ebay. The Drukhari half and the combat patrol box wouldn't be a bad start to an army.

Can anyone remember how much the Eldar/Dark Eldar box was, for comparison's sake?

Blood of the Phoenix? $230 US. 180 Euros / 140 british pounds. It was completely crazy.

This one is priced like Shadow and Pain- the Hedonite/Daughters of Khaine box, so at least for now this is the new 'normal.' Aether War was $160 US at the beginning of 2020.

I believe Blood of the Phoenix was GW testing what price they could get away with. Then, after the backlash, they started lowering the price to find the sweet spot where they could extract the most out of its userbase.

A part of me believes the Rust campaign book is them trying to find the price band where they can sell the book at maximum profit. Because as someone said 96 pages for 60$ is nuts.

It could also be them pricing in logistics. Books are printed in China and with the global container shortage that has coincided with COVID the cost of overseas freight has skyrocketed. Pricing up accessory companion books might be their way of preserving margins or making up for losses, as its less likely to provoke backlash than if they upped codex prices ("What do you mean my Drukhari codex costs $60?? Space Marines only paid $50!"). Could also be hiked because of warehousing costs if these books are a product that GW ended up sitting on for some time.because of the delayed release schedule too.