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 Yarium wrote:

dumb_numpty wrote:
Assuming it's genuine, Agents of Vect is now a 0CP strat that makes subsequent uses of your opponent's strat cost +1 CP. How the mighty have fallen.

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Okay, I thought this was bad at first... but the more I think about it, the more I like it. Any enemy that relies on a single crutch strat is just HAMMERED by this. Use on an opposing Transhuman Physiology and just laugh as the Marine Player weaps.

I keep looking at "Fire Overwatch" and thinking "Boy howdy, Agents of Vect will be interesting..."

KurtAngle2 wrote:

 Galas wrote:

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I have a ton more but I think many people will be happy with this. 11 transport capacity raiders boys.

And it looks like dark eldar receive a new general rule. "Artistas del filo" that means something like "Artists of the blade"

11 Capacity, +1 Toughness, S7 melee attacks, useless Phantasm Grenade Launcher and 6++ in melee now


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the_scotsman wrote:
....is that phantasm grenade launcher rule "roll 1d6, if you exceed the leadership of target unit deal 1mw"?

Or is it "roll 1d6 for each hit"?

For each hit but it's completely useless damage wise if you can't reduce enemy's LD by some other methods (and at least -2)

Unless you add the results of all the dice rolled, then it works similar to the way it does now (the stratagem).

The transport of 11 is something I honestly never thought they would change, good on them.


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 Galas wrote:

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I have a ton more but I think many people will be happy with this. 11 transport capacity raiders boys.

And it looks like dark eldar receive a new general rule. "Artistas del filo" that means something like "Artists of the blade"

Your a legend, feel free to share all you got if you have the time.

Sure, what I cant figure out is if its "I jit you two times, so I roll 2d6 and add them together to try and do 1mw" or if I roll 2 individual d6s and try to beat your ld for potentially multiple mws.

The Phantasm Grenade Launcher says that each hit you do, you roll 1d6 and if you roll over the leadership of the receiving unit it makes one mortal wound.

I don't know what the feth has less leadership than 6 in 40k with the exception of gretching. So maybe it has been misswritten in spanish (Not the first time it happens)

 Galas wrote:
The Phantasm Grenade Launcher says that each hit you do, you roll 1d6 and if you roll over the leadership of the receiving unit it makes one mortal wound.

I don't know what the feth has less leadership than 6 in 40k with the exception of gretching. So maybe it has been misswritten in spanish (Not the first time it happens)

Yea thats not great, however it does look like grisly trophies is a 3" aura of -2 to enemy leadership. Of course my Spanish is terrible so feel free to point and laugh

And as written grisly trophies stack. Still, it will probably be that if you hit 3 times you roll 3d6 vs leadership for 1 MW.

Or maybe not and GW intents to make viable leadership bombs for Drukhari

 Galas wrote:
And as written grisly trophies stack. Still, it will probably be that if you hit 3 times you roll 3d6 vs leadership for 1 MW.

Or maybe not and GW intents to make viable leadership bombs for Drukhari

As an aura, Grisly Trophies won't stack (you cannot benefit from the same aura ability multiple times)

Gotcha!

Heat lances have also gone from 18" S6 AP-5 1D6 damage and melta rule to 18" S8 ap-4 1d6+2.

What does Gravitiso and Descubierto do on the raider?

I see Lance is S8 AP 4 D1d3+3. Disintigrator cannons are S5 AP3 D2.

How are Venoms?

 Niiai wrote:
What does Gravitiso and Descubierto do on the raider?

I see Lance is S8 AP 4 D1d3+3. Disintigrator cannons are S5 AP3 D2.

How are Venoms?

Descubierto is just the open-topped rule (units inside can shoot, etc)
Gravitiso is to measure from the hull instead of the base because it's on a flight stand.

Heat lances are new melta rule, S8, and always in melta range 18" range

No core HQ seems to have lost weapon options except for haemonculus. Haemie can now use all his stabbies in one combat and gains a healing rule.

The archons huskblade is nerfed to S3. His aura now works on incubi.

The succubus archite glaive is still d1, no more -1 to hit, she can still take wych weapons

Lelith has all her old abilities. Her invulnerable is now 4++ and -1 to hit. She also seems tk be able to consolidate 6" in any direction.

 Galas wrote:

Spoiler:

I have a ton more but I think many people will be happy with this. 11 transport capacity raiders boys.

And it looks like dark eldar receive a new general rule. "Artistas del filo" that means something like "Artists of the blade"

I don't give a feth about Mr Vect, that's great news about Raider capacity.

Venoms got that big old 6 right where we want it on the datasheet. Otherwise mostly unchanged.


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Liquifiers are s4 ap-2 d1 flamers.

Haywire rule unchanged, base weapon now S3 ap-3 dd3

So is Artists of the Blade the new Dark Eldar faction trait? Anyone know what it does?

Incubi Tormentors rule is now a 2d6 roll and if you beat enemy ld they fight last


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Drazar still fights twice.

the_scotsman wrote:
Incubi Tormentors rule is now a 2d6 roll and if you beat enemy ld they fight last


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Drazar still fights twice.

That's rather tasty.

The subfaction who makes all poison weapons 3+ seems really quite good. Would be pretty hot for an army of bros in raiders.

By the way folks, "poder del dolor" means "power from pain"

I think your transports benefit from it now!

Some very useful changes there, the transport capacity bump especially.

My Spanish friend tells me that Splinter Racks give rapid fire weapons RF at max range.

 Galas wrote:

Spoiler:

I have a ton more but I think many people will be happy with this. 11 transport capacity raiders boys.

And it looks like dark eldar receive a new general rule. "Artistas del filo" that means something like "Artists of the blade"

You are my new god

Feels like codex: Incubi so far, the are only few minor improvements here and there but not this "HUGE REWORK" they needed

Okay so, who has the scourge page?

Hqs still seem fairly lackluster, curious to see the various "master X" rules. The Fixed Loadout Thingy seems to have been applied to Talos - which arm can be which thing is now fixed, haemie is locked into his loadout, but succubus and archon oddly are not. Both can take what they can take arm in their current codex.

the_scotsman wrote:
Heat lances are new melta rule, S8, and always in melta range 18" range

No core HQ seems to have lost weapon options except for haemonculus. Haemie can now use all his stabbies in one combat and gains a healing rule.

The archons huskblade is nerfed to S3. His aura now works on incubi.

The succubus archite glaive is still d1, no more -1 to hit, she can still take wych weapons

Lelith has all her old abilities. Her invulnerable is now 4++ and -1 to hit. She also seems tk be able to consolidate 6" in any direction.

Can lelith take the impaler?

I have all HQs, transports, incubi, ravager from Galas in Spanish


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No impaler for lelith. She does retoll all hits and wounds vs characters, making her duelling not gak.

She does not have a rule allowing her to be taken with other cults ala shadowsun


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Only CULTO DEL CONFLICTO

the_scotsman wrote:
I have all HQs, transports, incubi, ravager from Galas in Spanish


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No impaler for lelith. She does retoll all hits and wounds vs characters, making her duelling not gak.

She does not have a rule allowing her to be taken with other cults ala shadowsun


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Only CULTO DEL CONFLICTO

Thats kinda disappointing, she will bounce vs any decent armored character

Oh well, drhazar all the way i guess

the_scotsman wrote:
I have all HQs, transports, incubi, ravager from Galas in Spanish


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No impaler for lelith. She does retoll all hits and wounds vs characters, making her duelling not gak.

She does not have a rule allowing her to be taken with other cults ala shadowsun


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Only CULTO DEL CONFLICTO

I'd ahve been shocked if she could, she's the leader of the Cult of Strife and has nothing to do with any of the other Cults.

Cronos and Talos are CORE. cronos seems pretty similar, now A4, D2 on a 6, seems to do the same "if it kills a thing in combat, heal 1 wound or resurrect 1 model in a friendly unit within 6" and the upgrade still gives an all-CORE lieutenant aura usable by all drukhari.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Yarium wrote:

dumb_numpty wrote:
Assuming it's genuine, Agents of Vect is now a 0CP strat that makes subsequent uses of your opponent's strat cost +1 CP. How the mighty have fallen.

Spoiler:

Okay, I thought this was bad at first... but the more I think about it, the more I like it. Any enemy that relies on a single crutch strat is just HAMMERED by this. Use on an opposing Transhuman Physiology and just laugh as the Marine Player weaps.

I keep looking at "Fire Overwatch" and thinking "Boy howdy, Agents of Vect will be interesting..."

If you make a good leadership bomb you can make you opponent spend 2cp for the dont shock rule. thats pretty nasty too

Scourge look fine everyone. Stand down.