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**warboss**

That's a lot of piercings. He'd put Xerxes from 300 to shame for being so conservative.

**Tygre**

I wonder, in AoS, will he go the anti-chaos Chaos route. Like, the now non-canon, Malal. The dead chaos warrior on his base points to a possible anti-chaos sentiment.

**Eldarain**

Overread wrote:
I think the AoS demon army thing is coming from the promotional video of him leading a demon army of demons. Also don't forget it wasn't that long ago that in AoS (or rather Old World) Chaos Demons were a single army and I'm sure there are those who would welcome those times back.

Personally I sort of feel that the separation in AoS is pretty strong now. Allies and such work, but I don't really want to see united Chaos Demons return. I think each army is stronger having its own toolbox of options. And I say that as someone who wishes Khorne and Slaanesh could ally so I can have fiends and hounds in the same army.

I think if they recombine that will dash hopes of new demon models. 2 Big updates to Slaanesh and not a single new demonic unit. A few leaders yes, but no core troop or monster. Even the mindestealer cat is a Slaves to Darkness model.

There is a combined Daemons Faction already from Wrath of the Everchosen: Legion of Chaos Ascendant. Only keyword requirement being Chaos Daemon
Bel'akor has a subfaction within it. Legion of the First Prince. Adding abilities specifically while he leads it and is on the table.

**Sotahullu**

I actually wonder that there was already short story that did hint towards Skaven used by him so is there going to be new sub-faction that lets you take Skavens + Daemons in same list? That would be different.

**Danny76**

Eldarain wrote:
Overread wrote:
I think the AoS demon army thing is coming from the promotional video of him leading a demon army of demons. Also don't forget it wasn't that long ago that in AoS (or rather Old World) Chaos Demons were a single army and I'm sure there are those who would welcome those times back.

Personally I sort of feel that the separation in AoS is pretty strong now. Allies and such work, but I don't really want to see united Chaos Demons return. I think each army is stronger having its own toolbox of options. And I say that as someone who wishes Khorne and Slaanesh could ally so I can have fiends and hounds in the same army.

I think if they recombine that will dash hopes of new demon models. 2 Big updates to Slaanesh and not a single new demonic unit. A few leaders yes, but no core troop or monster. Even the mindestealer cat is a Slaves to Darkness model.

There is a combined Daemons Faction already from Wrath of the Everchosen: Legion of Chaos Ascendant. Only keyword requirement being Chaos Daemon
Bel'akor has a subfaction within it. Legion of the First Prince. Adding abilities specifically while he leads it and is on the table.

Yeah, updated version in BR Bel perhaps..?

**Eldarain**

@Danny76. It's possible. I think seeing him now a warscroll change is all but guaranteed. Not sure if the Legion will get any changes maybe another battalion or two? Something themed around the new narrative.

Personally I'd love something to encourage Furies as they look like a perfect fit to be in Bel'akor's army

**kurhanik**

I rather like it, though a bit big for my taste. The big issues I see with it is that it will be ridiculously expensive and probably tedious to transport what with all the small pointy bits sticking out and the wings spreading so far.

**Ghaz**

Overread wrote:
I think the AoS demon army thing is coming from the promotional video of him leading a demon army of demons.

Be'lakor is featured in Soul Wars: Wrath of the Everchosen and has his own Allegiance Abilities, Command Abilities and Spell Lore which affects LEGION OF THE FIRST PRINCE BLOODLETTERS, PLAGUEBEARERS, DAEMONETTES and HORRORS OF TZEENTCH.

**Eldarain**

kurhanik wrote:
I rather like it, though a bit big for my taste. The big issues I see with it is that it will be ridiculously expensive and probably tedious to transport what with all the small pointy bits sticking out and the wings spreading so far.

The modern kits have definitely moved me completely to magnetic storage/transport as opposed to the foam I used to use.

**GaroRobe**

Given that he's the first daemon prince and was empowered by all four gods, his size is big.

Is it a lot bigger than his old model? Yeah. But back then, even greater daemons were tiny. And he was around the same size of them. It's only fitting that he is now the size of some of the new greater daemons

**Marshal Loss**

Absolutely magnificent, a must-buy for me. Hope they eventually do a generic Daemon Prince kit of this quality down the road

**Argive**

Eldarain wrote:
kurhanik wrote:
I rather like it, though a bit big for my taste. The big issues I see with it is that it will be ridiculously expensive and probably tedious to transport what with all the small pointy bits sticking out and the wings spreading so far.

The modern kits have definitely moved me completely to magnetic storage/transport as opposed to the foam I used to use.

Totaly! Foam storage just doesnt cut it even.. Magnetize the base and just keep it standing in a box. Problem solved.

**Jebsonic**

Well, he is now properly imposing. As opposed to the old metal model who, while being a cool sculpt, I couldn't really take seriously because of its size. But this... this I can get behind. Hot damn!

**solkan**

I just wonder how long it will take GW to publish a 40k version that will make it worth buying him.

**H.B.M.C.**

I imagine he'll get new 40k rules and they'll be in the box.

**Voss**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I imagine he'll get new 40k rules and they'll be in the box.

Doubtful. 40k 'rules in the box' are just those simplified profiles and no actual rules.

I'd guess Book 2 of Warzone Charadon. With a real outside chance of the daemon codex itself (but I really doubt that, given how much is in the queue- a pdf update is more likely than that)

**Hollow**

Ok.... He looks absolutely fantastic. Maybe a little heavy on the wing decorations but that's easily left off I presume. I do wonder where, if anywhere, GW goes with Daemons going forwards as they have such an extensive fully fleshed-out range now.

**tneva82**

Eldarain wrote:
@Danny76. It's possible. I think seeing him now a warscroll change is all but guaranteed. Not sure if the Legion will get any changes maybe another battalion or two? Something themed around the new narrative.

Personally I'd love something to encourage Furies as they look like a perfect fit to be in Bel'akor's army

GW already hinted at that when somebody asked on FB will he still have old warscroll with 8 wounds(who really thinks he won't get new warscroll? For GW size=wounds so regardless of other changes more wounds with new model is 100% quaranteed)

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Argive wrote:
Eldarain wrote:
kurhanik wrote:
I rather like it, though a bit big for my taste. The big issues I see with it is that it will be ridiculously expensive and probably tedious to transport what with all the small pointy bits sticking out and the wings spreading so far.

The modern kits have definitely moved me completely to magnetic storage/transport as opposed to the foam I used to use.

Totaly! Foam storage just doesnt cut it even.. Magnetize the base and just keep it standing in a box. Problem solved.

This. Teclis, lumineth pikes, archaon, terrorgheists, doomsday arks...lots of models so much easier with magnets.

**Danny76**

Or custom cut foam.
Battle foam has always served well for such intricately shaped models.

**Cronch**

Foamcutter, enough of these games. I'm going into battle and I need your strongest foamtrays

**tneva82**

Danny76 wrote:
Or custom cut foam.
Battle foam has always served well for such intricately shaped models.

It still adds something model is touching and care needs applied to positioning model to the foam.

Magnet? It's no different to putting it to gaming table. It doesn't touch anything but air molecules while being carried around.

**Fireball**

Very impressive model. His original model was the only demon I ever painted (as I tracked down all the characters which were part of that huge WHF campaign ... now I do not even remember the name).

**H.B.M.C.**

Voss wrote:
Doubtful. 40k 'rules in the box' are just those simplified profiles and no actual rules.

Tell that to Uriel Ventriss who has - you guessed it - rules in his box. Full rules - stats, weapons, special rules, power level and points values.

**MajorWesJanson**

Hollow wrote:
Ok.... He looks absolutely fantastic. Maybe a little heavy on the wing decorations but that's easily left off I presume. I do wonder where, if anywhere, GW goes with Daemons going forwards as they have such an extensive fully fleshed-out range now.

Daemons only have a handful of named characters that need conversion to plastic. Thanks to Warcry, even Furies have a plastic unit box. GW is going to have to start adding a few new units if they want new kits. Maybe some new ranged entries?

**grahamdbailey**

Tygre wrote:
I wonder, in AoS, will he go the anti-chaos Chaos route. Like, the now non-canon, Malal. The dead chaos warrior on his base points to a possible anti-chaos sentiment.

I was thinking this exact thing earlier today. It could be quite likely.

**terry**

grahamdbailey wrote:
Tygre wrote:
I wonder, in AoS, will he go the anti-chaos Chaos route. Like, the now non-canon, Malal. The dead chaos warrior on his base points to a possible anti-chaos sentiment.

I was thinking this exact thing earlier today. It could be quite likely.

in wrath of the everchosen he has a legion of chaos ascending sub faction, so this might ge expanded on

**Dysartes**

Danny76 wrote:
Or custom cut foam.
Battle foam has always served well for such intricately shaped models.

As far as I'm aware, that still means supporting Romeo, and that's just... *shudder*

**skeleton**

you can use him in 40k to because hes got an option to put a death primaris luitenant on his base so 40k rules will be in the box

**jaredb**

Looking forward to reading what shenanigans he gets up to in the third broken realms book!

**AduroT**

At best he’s $150 US. I’d expect closer to $175 though.