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Qualified for a second one with this month’s hobby budget.

Let’s just say I’ll be painting a lot of Necromunda terrain over the winter…

As for my second Castus? I’ll be selling him on when he arrives, almost certainly in the Loot Group.

Selling your second one as well? Do you... not like the mini, Grotsnik?

tneva82 wrote:
Well howabout FOMO not being applicable because you literally cannot miss out if you want it?

So there's 'literally' no way to miss out on this, hey? Well... if that's the hill you want to die on...

News flash: Lot of people can't just spend $420 on a whim.

tneva82 wrote:
What I find is funny how people can get offended about free model. Lol.

What I find funny is how people can be so naive as to think that this model is 'free'. Lol.

Just never going to open or paint it. Seems pointless when there are folk who will do both!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Aww... I want that scenery pack.

I do have those Tech-Priests though. And that Marine Ancient.

It's missing the 5 cost ones, which included the RT-era Assassin mini.

It's also missing the Iwo Jima Marines.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Selling your second one as well? Do you... not like the mini, Grotsnik?

tneva82 wrote:
Well howabout FOMO not being applicable because you literally cannot miss out if you want it?

So there's 'literally' no way to miss out on this, hey? Well... if that's the hill you want to die on...

News flash: Lot of people can't just spend $420 on a whim.

tneva82 wrote:
What I find is funny how people can get offended about free model. Lol.

What I find funny is how people can be so naive as to think that this model is 'free'. Lol.

You're right, the model is £150 or w/e with £150 worth of free product bundled in.

I have discussed how ridiculous I think this model is before. However, I am getting it for free, because I wanted to finish off a knight force I want to convert up for a modelling project and it happened to end up over the amount (woot?).

I actually think I will convert him crushed by one of their feet (or maybe dying on the base, idk still thinking), makes it memorable to me (over a standard primaris with minimal conversion????, lol).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


News flash: Lot of people can't just spend $420 on a whim.

The usual reply is some form of
1) Don't be poor
2) If that's expensive, you can't afford to be in the hobby, peasant.

Cronch wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


News flash: Lot of people can't just spend $420 on a whim.

The usual reply is some form of
1) Don't be poor
2) If that's expensive, you can't afford to be in the hobby, peasant.

3) ThAT's JuST CaPitAliSm!

He sort of is and sort of isn’t a freebie.

If you’re doing a qualifying spend solely to get that model? Yeah. Get your bumps felt. Pretty models are nice, but give your head a wobble all the same.

If like me a qualifying spend is kinda your hobby budget for the month, and you’re going to be buying anyways? Then he’s a proper freebie.

That's why it's kind of good he's pretty generic. Like, you would probably hope for a much more unique model with the price you need to pay for him.

But on the other hand, if you don't get him, it's not like a huge deal. Battle damage can be replicated with a hobby knife, the dead necron base is cool but not impossible to replicate, etc.

I wonder if more people would have gone for it if they had made it that warhammer+ Vindicare instead

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
He sort of is and sort of isn’t a freebie.

If you’re doing a qualifying spend solely to get that model? Yeah. Get your bumps felt. Pretty models are nice, but give your head a wobble all the same.

If like me a qualifying spend is kinda your hobby budget for the month, and you’re going to be buying anyways? Then he’s a proper freebie.

This is it basically, even if you set out to get him, he still is free comparatively as long as you buy stuff you want/need alongside him.

Would people be more excited about this model if there was a hardcover, limited edition, mediocre novella about the character's heroic last stand against the Necrons on world XX915 Genericus? A story that described how resolved, hardened, and devoted to the Emperor that Sgt. Castus was, and how it took 20+ Necrons fighting dirty to finally bring him down, and when they finally did, he spat in their grimy metal faces and detonated a nuclear bomb that took out half the planet and 2/3 of the Necron invading army? A story that had dream sequences where Castus was a living pawn on a galactic regicide board, moved by the Emperor's hand, wisdom, and sheer force of psychic will to sacrifice himself for a perpetual, Pyrrhic stalemate? A story that can't be missed because it has crucial revelations for the overarching franchise metaplot, because Castus is revealed to be a clone of Loken, housing the reincarnated spirit of Vulkan, and the twin brother of Malcador's great great grandson? A story told by an underpaid idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing?

 GaroRobe wrote:
That's why it's kind of good he's pretty generic. Like, you would probably hope for a much more unique model with the price you need to pay for him.

But on the other hand, if you don't get him, it's not like a huge deal. Battle damage can be replicated with a hobby knife, the dead necron base is cool but not impossible to replicate, etc.

Exactly right. If he had some sort of unique weapons loadout you couldn't get anywhere else, that would be predatory. But he's just a beat-up Intercessor sergeant on a cool base.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I wonder if more people would have gone for it if they had made it that warhammer+ Vindicare instead

I'm not sure. There's a functional difference between the assassin as a self-contained unit and a lone sergeant without his squad that may be a consideration, but both models share the design of an extravagant base with the actual dude being as generic as it gets. During discussions of Warhammer+ there have been a number of people saying while the model is nice, they have all the Vindicares they'll ever need, that it doesn't look different enough from the regular model, and so on.

I don't think you'll easily get past the point that the actual dude doesn't stand out and that this impacts how attractive the model and attached deal are. GW already made sure it was a Marine to sell to the largest group in their customer base. I don't know if the novelty of a temple assassin would outweigh the downside of following the same, easily criticized design philosophy.

Compared to for instance making a female Vindicare (or Culexus, Eversor or male Callidus) that would at least offer something visibly different, a nice base on a generic model isn't that much of a selling point.

 Vermonter wrote:
Would people be more excited about this model if there was a hardcover, limited edition, mediocre novella about the character's heroic last stand against the Necrons on world XX915 Genericus? A story that described how resolved, hardened, and devoted to the Emperor that Sgt. Castus was, and how it took 20+ Necrons fighting dirty to finally bring him down, and when they finally did, he spat in their grimy metal faces and detonated a nuclear bomb that took out half the planet and 2/3 of the Necron invading army? A story that had dream sequences where Castus was a living pawn on a galactic regicide board, moved by the Emperor's hand, wisdom, and sheer force of psychic will to sacrifice himself for a perpetual, Pyrrhic stalemate? A story that can't be missed because it has crucial revelations for the overarching franchise metaplot, because Castus is revealed to be a clone of Loken, housing the reincarnated spirit of Vulkan, and the twin brother of Malcador's great great grandson? A story told by an underpaid idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing?

Phrased like that, likely not to any notable extent.

Without he heavy bias, yes, obviously existing fiction that people emotionally connect with has positive impact on sales of models based on it. It's not guaranteed that such a model would end up as a generic Primaris Sergeant, though, given authors tend to like making their protagonists stand out in heroic fiction.

 Vermonter wrote:
A story told by an underpaid idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing?

Some of the voice actors are really excellent, it's not their fault the source material is so mediocre to awful. When you get a good actor reading a great story it actually works out pretty well (eg John Banks reading Chris Wraight).

For 1 million purchases from new website, I think went with a marine because is there biggest seller over the years and they went with generic because that's what marines are...generic.

What I would have hoped for... the last dying first born that has the most exotic weapons ever (would be a nod to how many first born marines are going out of existence...)

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Cronch wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


News flash: Lot of people can't just spend $420 on a whim.

The usual reply is some form of
1) Don't be poor
2) If that's expensive, you can't afford to be in the hobby, peasant.

3) ThAT's JuST CaPitAliSm!

4) HoBbY aRe SuPpOsEd To Be ExPeNsIvE
5) YoU JuSt WaNt StUfF fOr FrEe
6) GW is a company, so making money no matter how is totally normal for them!

The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

The final time I gave up smoking I decided to funnel all the money I saved into hobby stuff to help me stay on track for a year, so for 12 months straight I spent £300 a month (£10 daily saving) on GW stuff. Built up pretty fast, takes up a lot of space now.

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

There's no bulk discounts through the webstore. I believe some individual store managers might have some degree of flexibility if you make a big purchase directly in a store, but it can't be through the console (ergo the website). And considering the nature of the products you might have to spend a LOT to get any kind of store discount etc...

That said what's the risk? Buying $500 of GW models is no different to buying a new $1K computer or a $500 graphics card or expensive clothes or books from Amazon or anything else from a major online retailer these days.



Personally I have spent as much and more in one go at GW, but it is very rare. In my case I'd sold a bunch of models and basically walked into the local store on a hte stores birthday to get the free bag and other items whilst buying a larger bunch of Ossiarchs in one go. It's not common and not something I did on a total whim (it took a while to sell the stuff and even then it was simply the happy coincidence that the store birthday was on the pre-order launch day for the Ossiarch force).




Heck there are some designer resin models that can easily cost £200-300 on the market from other stores (got my eye on that Necromancer dragon from Creature Caster)

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

What risk is there? I do orders like that often and never had a problem for like 20 years or so? Never seen a bulk discount, but I remember years ago they use to offer like an amount of left over bits for every xxx spent, and I got so much good bits box gak was awesome... wish they would do that again.

 Overread wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

That said what's the risk? Buying $500 of GW models is no different to buying a new $1K computer or a $500 graphics card or expensive clothes or books from Amazon or anything else from a major online retailer these days.

There is quite the difference, especially with GPUs, as they tend to retain their value or even rise in value depending on availability. With Wargaming, I've made the experience that sometimes, halfway through a larger project or even a single kit, I discover that I'm not all that excited about it anymore. Maybe the miniatures turned out to look or build differently than expected, or maybe the novelty just wore off. Might be just me, but whenever that happens, I'm usually glad I didn't commit to a larger purchase. That doesn't happen with a computer either, as the enjoyment usually doesn't hinge on mood or hype or aesthetic notions but rather on its functionality, which is constant and easy to predict. Point being, to me there is no downside to a more conservative purchasing behaviour if there is no significant incentive involved (like large shipping costs, discounts etc.).

I regret nothing about my immense pile of unopened GW boxes.

 BertBert wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

That said what's the risk? Buying $500 of GW models is no different to buying a new $1K computer or a $500 graphics card or expensive clothes or books from Amazon or anything else from a major online retailer these days.

There is quite the difference, especially with GPUs, as they tend to retain their value or even rise in value depending on availability. With Wargaming, I've made the experience that sometimes, halfway through a larger project or even a single kit, I discover that I'm not all that excited about it anymore. Maybe the miniatures turned out to look or build differently than expected, or maybe the novelty just wore off. Might be just me, but whenever that happens, I'm usually glad I didn't commit to a larger purchase. That doesn't happen with a computer either, as the enjoyment usually doesn't hinge on mood or hype or aesthetic notions but rather on its functionality, which is constant and easy to predict. Point being, to me there is no downside to a more conservative purchasing behaviour if there is no significant incentive involved (like large shipping costs, discounts etc.).

Ah you meant personal risk as opposed to financial or ordering risk or such. I think that just comes down to the individual. Burn out happens, but at the same time it doesn't. IT really depends on how you engage with your hobby and draw fun from it. IT can also hinge on how you react to when you don't get fun. Some people (mentally or through financial pressures) will dump things that don't immediately interest them to focus on other things. Others are happy to put aside some models that don't interest them and will return to them again in a few weeks/months/whenever.

In general GW models are a SAFE investment wargaming wise in that most armies don't lose anything much over the years. Broadly speaking models retain their capacity to work - sure new sculpts are often better and weapon options do change and base sizes can. Some of those can be fixed with changing the base size (strip and rebuild or base attachments); with proxying and such. The only time that really messed up for a main game (ergo not a side game) was when GW blew up the Old World and started AoS and that was a vast insane exception that was founded basically on bad management.

 Overread wrote:


Ah you meant personal risk as opposed to financial or ordering risk or such. I think that just comes down to the individual. Burn out happens, but at the same time it doesn't. IT really depends on how you engage with your hobby and draw fun from it. IT can also hinge on how you react to when you don't get fun. Some people (mentally or through financial pressures) will dump things that don't immediately interest them to focus on other things. Others are happy to put aside some models that don't interest them and will return to them again in a few weeks/months/whenever.

In general GW models are a SAFE investment wargaming wise in that most armies don't lose anything much over the years. Broadly speaking models retain their capacity to work - sure new sculpts are often better and weapon options do change and base sizes can. Some of those can be fixed with changing the base size (strip and rebuild or base attachments); with proxying and such. The only time that really messed up for a main game (ergo not a side game) was when GW blew up the Old World and started AoS and that was a vast insane exception that was founded basically on bad management.

Absolutely, it's down to the individual and I know I have changed my approach to wargaming several times over the years. I just wanted to make sure to understand the reasoning behind it and that I hadn't missed something important.

Most I ever blew in one go on hobby stuff was 120 or so USD and it wasn't even Geedubs.

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

It’s…somewhat common for me.

The most I’ve ever spent in one sitting was, without a lie, around £3,000.00.

That was of course quite the extravagance. And I don’t spend £150+ every month. I’m currently on a proper project, going for a super duper Zone Mortalis board.

And as ever, I can only speak for the relative depth of my pockets. This shouldn’t be taken as some kinda weird flex.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

It’s…somewhat common for me.

The most I’ve ever spent in one sitting was, without a lie, around £3,000.00.

That was of course quite the extravagance. And I don’t spend £150+ every month. I’m currently on a proper project, going for a super duper Zone Mortalis board.

And as ever, I can only speak for the relative depth of my pockets. This shouldn’t be taken as some kinda weird flex.

Sorry to pry but curious what the big order was for, it feels warlord-ish? In price. Obviously your personal business so feel free not to share.

Multiple armies. At once.

It was fun!

 BertBert wrote:
The idea of blowing 400+ bucks on Warhammer in a single purchase is so strange to me. Is there any bulk discount applied or something? Seems like such an unneccessary risk if there isn't.

I'll be honest, the only reason why I get my Castus was because I was getting the Black templar box anyway, so I just had to slap something on top of it (in that case a primaris chaplain on bike, because there was 100% chance that thing will get useful in that army) and a random paint was enough to reach the mark.

Without the BT box? Yeah, probably wouldn't have blown that much on it.