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If I wanted one of the models and wanted to use the apps I would have gotten it.

As I currently don't, I'm happy to wait for the content to get filled out.

I can totally understand that it's been an acceptable arrangement for those who did want the ancillary elements to the streaming content.

One of the things that interests me about where WH+ goes in the future is the fact that GW have made this an umbrella service of sorts. Even if the animations become too expensive to continue putting out (which I can potentially see happening, I don't know if I foresee them putting out 15 min animations on a weekly basis for years), GW is still going to have years of digital White Dwarf issues which (as far as I'm aware) were not available until now. Maybe they'll finally start transitioning digital codices/rules into the apps.

Had no interest in it, and after watching the free episode, still have no interest in it.

I like things like Astartes, the animated Helsreach and other things I've run across on Youtube, have subscriptions to Netflix (various sci-fi), Disney+ (Star Wars/Marvel) and Paramount (Star Trek/Picard) streaming service, but none of GW's Warhammer+ offerings are things I would consider worth paying for.

I have Netflix and Disney+, so don't see any need for subscribing to another streaming service, let alone one that has a very limited range of content and even more so one that doesn't have anything I would watch even if it was for free.

I’d have preferred it with a little more weekly content. But I’m watching more than I thought I was. I’m not a big video battle report person classically, and don’t watch a lot of painting tutorials, unless I’m after something very specific. With them being there, I’m watching them as they drop and enjoying them.

I subbed for the year. But even if I was monthly I’d keep at it. The price is below my threshold, and I’m generally a penny pincher. Looking forward to the mini, can find a use for the voucher, poked around the app/vault.

Cost for entertainment is within bounds. Could it be better? Yup. And I hope it does improve. I’ll keep watching.

I'm pretty pleased with it. I think that as time goes on, and more and more content gets added, it'll become more of a no-brainer to sub, even if just for a month to watch the content you're interested in and then unsub.

Like when the Blood Angels series is finished, or whatever the Astartes-maker is making gets put up. The Citadel Masterclass is steadily adding more content.

I think there's a LOT of people that are overreacting to a lack of animation this week, as if they'd been waiting for today to start spewing bile. I think those sorts of reactions are just idiotic. If you don't want to sub, don't sub. So far I'm pleased with it.

If all people do is join for a month and binge then it's doomed.

Server farms are not cheap to run, you need machines on 24/7 you are paying utilities not just to run the servers but the cooling sysyem, you need substantial bandwidth.

It's why Netflix spends billions constantly making new shows, if they don't people leave.

Long term a few painting vids, battle reports and 1 animation a week will not keep people paying.

hobojebus wrote:

Long term a few painting vids, battle reports and 1 animation a week will not keep people paying.

And that's why GW bundled in the apps for both their core games (and I would wager given time, they will bundle in apps for their specialist games too).
And the vault
And the vouches
And the models.


Streaming animations and videos is only one part of this service. Sure if its the only part you want then binging every few months is likely a good call; however GW clearly intends to make it more than just a streaming service. Perhaps when they started it it began as only a streaming service and then the points you raised were noted. The actual costs would looked at and they changed course a bit and rolled other elements into the final plan to make it more attractive to remain a subscriber over just binging every few months.

Bery pleasantly suprised. Will continue to sub

Subscribed last month and just paid for second month, but only read some of the 7th ed lore in the "vault". I am only sticking around to get the £10 voucher atm.

Side note, who wrote that garbage?! Clearly not any of the good Black Library authors...

 Dolnikan wrote:
I have Netflix and Disney+, so don't see any need for subscribing to another streaming service, let alone one that has a very limited range of content and even more so one that doesn't have anything I would watch even if it was for free.

*shrug* I have Disney+. I've only watched it for Marvel and Mandalorian. Oh...and Gargoyles and Gummi Bears...

It goes largely unused compared to HBO Max or Prime, but I still keep it. WH+ is super cheap ( for the first year ) by comparison, because I want that model.

My verdict: not great, terrible.

I set my expectations pretty low given that GW doesn't have a good track record with ongoing support of products or anything digital. Events that led to Warhammer+ made it feel like a rushed job and I expected them to run out of pre-made content quite soon and looks like I wasn't wrong. Then again, a new episode of animation every week for a year was never a realistic goal either. I am a sucker for exclusive miniatures and I wanted to give GW a chance with W+ and ended up getting a one year sub. In case W+ had turned out to be a complete dumpster fire, at least I could experience it first hand and form my own unbiased opinion. Also, one year sub is peanuts in my hobby budget and equals to one less miniature to my pile of shame. Or two more because I intend to pick both exclusive models

I have been positively surprised by the quality of content even if there hasn't been much of it. If I look back one year from now, I think I have gotten my money's worth or most likely forgotten that I paid anything in the first place. I won't bother claiming anyone else that W+ is worth it, I'll leave it for everyone to decide themselves.

For me, the most disappointing thing about Warhammer+ is not the lack of content but the fact that it highlights GW's digital inability. Warhammer+ could have been a service that connects everything but we still have videos hosted on at least five different sources and official products sold on four(?) websites.

 Overread wrote:

hobojebus wrote:

Long term a few painting vids, battle reports and 1 animation a week will not keep people paying.

And that's why GW bundled in the apps for both their core games (and I would wager given time, they will bundle in apps for their specialist games too).
And the vault
And the vouches
And the models.


Streaming animations and videos is only one part of this service. Sure if its the only part you want then binging every few months is likely a good call; however GW clearly intends to make it more than just a streaming service. Perhaps when they started it it began as only a streaming service and then the points you raised were noted. The actual costs would looked at and they changed course a bit and rolled other elements into the final plan to make it more attractive to remain a subscriber over just binging every few months.

The apps will be barely functioning garbage.

I don't care about the vault even a little.

Neither model has any value to me.

And I can save more money going to another retailer that does a 20% discount than I can buying direct with the voucher.

Literally the only thing of any interest was the animation and after seeing old one eye there isn't even that anymore.

And from reading other people's posts I know I'm not alone in this stance.

There's no value to warhammer plus.

Feel free to use my voucher code, I don't buy directly from GW:

 BertBert wrote:
Feel free to use my voucher code, I don't buy directly from GW:

Spoiler:

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Thank you for sharing it, but once entering it, GW says that there is a problem registering the voucher. Either it was already reclaimed or it can only can be reclaimed by German accounts, since it does not say "it has already be claimed". That or you put it wrong, but I doubt that.

Didn't care before and from hearing of it, still don't care. Maybe one day but honestly I don't live all things warhammer so probably it isn't my thing.

I subbed for a year as I, like many others, figured the cost was small enough when accounting for the model, voucher and yearly discount (even though i may end up not even using the voucher due to other retailers already being cheaper). I had watched the free preview of Old Bale Eye and actually enjoyed it quite a bit. Nothing stellar, but fairly enjoyable. I knew full well that the content would be sparse. What really disappointed me was the quality of Angels of Death. I'm surprised to see so many people praising it. The animation quality is so low its almost laughable in some scenes. The combat scenes look stilty and make no sense (gsc swarming a squad of 4-5 astartes but just running past 2 of them so they can talk to each other and lazily chop down one at a time, exploding space vessels looking like they're from some 90's game). I must say that i vastly prefer the Hammer and Bolter animations to AoD.

I got what I paid for. Would I like to have more? Sure. I've already hit up Wade on Twitter with feedback about Loremasters (good presentation, not long enough to give good coverage on the topic, if you feel you have to stick to 30 mins or less an episode consider breaking it up over a series of episodes rather than skipping large chunks of the lore) and I really like Hammer and Bolter. The heavy line animation style reminds me of the MiB animated series (along with Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot, Extreme Ghostbusters, Godzilla and probably some more I'm forgetting) but I swear I feel a bit of an Aeon Flux influence too, but maybe that's reaching. Obviously they are using budget saving techniques seen in anime and Hanna Barbera cartoons, but I don't think that's a bad thing. After all they're being made on a deadline by small teams and GW isn't throwing infinite money at them.

Angels of Death is definitely being held up by it's writing. It feels like the animation could have stood to have more time being rendered, but I don't hate it either. At least it's not worse than Beast Wars or other 3d cartoons of that era.

The vault is one I'm on the fence about. While I get why they're pulling old rules out of the issues (basically to prevent from confusing people) I worry that they'll also pull the conversion and scratchbuild tutorials out too. I recently re-found an old article from 03/04 talking about how to cut and repose the new Tactical Marines to get more variety out of the kit and shared it on Twitter because I'm sure the techniques could be applied to Primaris for those looking to shake up their squads a bit more. So I want stuff like that to stay around, but who knows if it will.

As for the apps, they're getting better, but man they have a massive bias against them after that botched 40k app launch. Also I know plenty of people who have said that if they paywall the AoS warscrolls they'll just stop paying to use the app and get the stuff elsewhere. Free warscrolls was a good standard for the game and it's something that 40k should be doing too, but GW seems to want to hide all that info in the apps, and potentially behind a paywall which is stupid. Lowering the barrier to entry on rules only increases sales, not lessens them. Heck, it's been over a month since I started working on Grey Knights and I still can't legally obtain a codex.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Heck, it's been over a month since I started working on Grey Knights and I still can't legally obtain a codex.

I'm surprised they've sold out of Codex Grey Knights in the US - how bizarre.

 Dysartes wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Heck, it's been over a month since I started working on Grey Knights and I still can't legally obtain a codex.

I'm surprised they've sold out of Codex Grey Knights in the US - how bizarre.

I was as well. It might have to do with them redoing their inventory system but honestly it's a bit frustrating to not be able to get the rules to anything in your army from the company that makes said army.

Kinda too bad that the WH+ voucher has to be spent before the end of the month, I was hoping to get a squad of Sacresants with the voucher but they're still out of stock online... Maybe I'll get some Arco-flagellants or a Culexus Assassin instead ($20 CAD off actually makes GW's overpriced character sculpts have a reasonable cost).

I'm really enjoying WH+.

I think the price point is fair. The content is good enough for me. The Angels of Death series is fantastic. The battle reports are better than anything else out there. The painting masterclass is done very well. I do not have anything negative to say about WH+.

I suspect that once there's a lot more content more people will sign up.

I get up earlier than my wife on weekends, so I'm quite enjoying WH+ animations and Loremaster episodes as my "Saturday morning cartoon" with a few slices of toast and a coffee. It's a bit of dumb fun.

The painting vids are excellent. Louise is extremely charismatic and I love the way she explains everything. I've only attempted the "painting pale faces" technique so far, and after tweaking the method to fit my style (and available paints) a bit better, I am happy with the results.

The battle reports are some of the best quality available. I wouldn't sub to WH+ just for them, but I'm not complaining that they're there either.

The Vault is so close. It needs options for organisation (e.g. "show only WD", "sort by release date", etc.), and I would love to see an "article search" function (e.g. so I could pull up all Blanchitsu articles across all issues, etc.) and a "universal bookmark" feature (save bookmarks in an issue and be able to access any of them from a central place). It's fine overall, but not exactly useful yet IMHO.

I've already used my voucher and I'm looking forward to the Vindicare.

Overall, for a few bucks a month, it's fine. It's not blowing my socks off, but it's been worth it for me.

How do you access the vault??

mrFickle wrote:
How do you access the vault??

https://warhammer-vault.com/

Am I wrong or is 95% of the content on WH+ available for free else where? Not even suggesting pirated, but like Youtube? They are billing this as an animation platform right? With only 4 shows? Also is it true that their shows have decided to, are now taking a month long break? As in the monthly streaming service for animations that only has 4 shows has nothing new for at least 1 month?

The exact content in WH+ is mostly exclusive.

Blood Angels is taking a break, but Hammer and Bolter is filling the void.

Battle Reports and painting tutorials and lore videos are all over the net, but not the ones on WH+.

So far, I think there's 5 AoDs, 4 H&Bs, 5 batreps and 5 painting videos- that or somewhere in that neighbourhood.

They showcased the AoS Neave series too, but I think that's not coming til the new year.

PenitentJake wrote:
The exact content in WH+ is mostly exclusive.

Blood Angels is taking a break, but Hammer and Bolter is filling the void.

Battle Reports and painting tutorials and lore videos are all over the net, but not the ones on WH+.

So far, I think there's 5 AoDs, 4 H&Bs, 5 batreps and 5 painting videos- that or somewhere in that neighbourhood.

They showcased the AoS Neave series too, but I think that's not coming til the new year.

So the battle reports and painting tutorials, who are they by? As I understood it from my local, the bat reps are full of errors, and the painting guides are just of models that no one can paint yet because they haven't been released yet. Not really selling the sub here are we?

The last guide I saw was painting gemstones on a wraithlord for Eldar. I think the whole "painting is useless as the models aren't out yet" is 100% overblown and just people either venting about not having models that they want yet or looking for something to complain about.

The painting is more general techniques, not step-by-steps for specific models. It could be that the specific minis used were not out yet (no clue on the ork skin guy) but what was boing taught was universal.

I’ve seen a few tactical blunders, but nothing leaped out as “wrong” with the bat reps. There might have been. Nobody is perfect. They are more casual themed anyway. Push some models around, have some fun. Which comes across very well. We all miss minor points from time to time. And yes, they are doing this professionally, so should be held to a higher standard than FLGS tables. I think if they had to rule check every move to make sure things were polished and 100%, we would have a lot less content then we do now.