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Oh thank god! The world is set right once again

That "Miley Sirens" joke really tickled me

Hey Graven, how do the TT Combat Carnevale models scale with the original metal models?

I have a handful of the original models but I'm worried about scale creep. I don't want to order a bunch of the admittedly great new models only for them to dwarf my existing models and terrain.

 Gitsplitta wrote:
Pretty cool work on the gate thingy graven.

Thanks buddy it was a ton o' fun I've been experimenting with using a dark brown base (Army Painter Speed Paint Dark Wood) for old metals and really enjoying the results.

endtransmission wrote:Oh thank god! The world is set right once again

Oh, there's so much stuff now

Syro_ wrote:That "Miley Sirens" joke really tickled me

Well, I live to tickle your fancy

KidCthulhu wrote:Hey Graven, how do the TT Combat Carnevale models scale with the original metal models?

I have a handful of the original models but I'm worried about scale creep. I don't want to order a bunch of the admittedly great new models only for them to dwarf my existing models and terrain.

Now that is a very interesting question, and one that vexes the community. Here is an infamous example (not my pic)

So, yes - but only in some models, such as the Barber.
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Strigoi are a mixed bag. For example, the original Varcolac is no smaller than the new one (as you can see below). The terrain is not an issue but generally speaking it's the difference between 28 and 32mm. It's most noticeable with guild, it's not really an issue with Rashaar, and varies with other factions (as above). All I would say is the game is better than ever, clean and fast with optional rules to add complexity. Personally, I would just go for it.

Sorry for the delay. November is the hell month, always RL busy, never much hobby. Still, got a maildrop from TT Combat. To replace the shoddy Varcolac, they sent me the brand-new (like, it's only been out a couple of weeks) female version, so I converted it slightly into a Moon Eater - a nastier, soul-draining werewolf, bound in sigils and cord, on a 50mm base. We're very unlikely to ever run more than one Varcaloc (and if we really need to, we have Brimstone werewolves on 40mm bases already) so this seems like a good plan.

New group shot:

Miles Siren's Wrecking Crew

And...

Thank you Santa an early xmas gift, which I'm very excited about indeed. The Black Spectre is one of the iconic narrative monsters from the game so this will be great to tackle.

Now talking of TACKLING - how about some Blood Bowl?! Yup, you heard me right. Now I haven't played BB in (sharp intake of breath) 23 years, but the dad of my wee girl's bestie wants an opponent for his Dark Elves. Another of my nerd-brothers plays high-level competitive BB, so he sent me a pile of Khorne Linesmen he had spare (I suspect that Khorne is not a great team, hence why he was happy to pass it on ) which I'll flesh (skull?) out with some bits, maybe try to get a fantasy Bestigor to convert or something.

Plus there's a stack of MCP, to keep me busy, and the wife has got me the Reaper advent calendar too, as if that's not enough.

That all being said, part of the paint slow down is more card and board gaming, which is great... but means fewer minis. Who knows, maybe 2024 is going to be quality over quantity
Graven

 inmygravenimage wrote:
So, yes - but only in some models, such as the Barber. Strigoi are a mixed bag. For example, the original Varcolac is no smaller than the new one (as you can see below). The terrain is not an issue but generally speaking it's the difference between 28 and 32mm. It's most noticeable with guild, it's not really an issue with Rashaar, and varies with other factions (as above). All I would say is the game is better than ever, clean and fast with optional rules to add complexity. Personally, I would just go for it.

Oh dear, it's 28mm to 32mm jump... That might be an issue as I don't play Carnevale but use the models in my other projects:


I like Guild in particular; so if they're huge now, that's gonna be a deal breaker. I can still find interesting uses for Rashaar and Strigoi since they're monsters. I was also interesting in grabbing some Vatican guys, but I can be creative about some of them (ie, Ogre heads on Scoprio Marksmen).

Thanks for answering my questions, Graven. Keep up the awesome painting!

Wow classic Harlot! Great sculpt. The new harlots are beautiful sculpts too (but I have to limit myself, sadly) - I have a fair bit of Guild but stick to the Trades and Pulcinella as subfactions. Similarly, my Rashaar is mostly just Cult, and the offspring avoids gypsies as a rule. Gotta rationalise. Tragic but true.

It's the advent of advent! Which means the legendary Mighty Lancer Games: Reaper advent calendar once again,
First , it's this rather jaunty skeleton with a pick-axe, a perfect addition to any twisted Old West adventure - given how much we love dungeon crawlers such as Shadows of Brimstone this will be ideal for adding bodies (if not fleshing out) groups of Hungry Dead or Coffin Breakers.

Day 2 was a chonky d30, a thing of beauty, and Day 3 was this fine lassie:

She'll make an excellent addition to boat crew for Carnevale. I don't own a Mariner so she's a good fit. Probably paint her as Anna of Arundelle though... oh just Let it Go!

And these bad boys (and girls) arrived

8 Khorne linesmen, ready to become... the Krampus Killers! Yup, I've decided that whilst the World Eater colours were a fun idea, let's get festive!

Graven

Still a bit erratic with posting, sorry. The blood bowl thing has... spiralled.

Mistakes were made, and so forth. All I wanted was a couple of Beastmen to turn into Khorngors! Instead, I've ended up with a full classic metal Beastman team, which has been sitting in a box, primed, since... early 90s maybe?

Our school technician - Terry the Techincal Technician (I know!) - was a GW manager back in the early days, and occasionally helps with my Warhammer alliance club; he very kindly gifted me them, and I have promptly set about painting and rebasing.

Also, he may have found a nice bit of wood that we're thinking about turning into a pitch Of course, now I need to track down some retro chaos warriors to be the blockers. But in the meantime, I can always use the 3 armed mutants as blockers.

I also found an old school chaos sorcerer will be the apothecary for the team; speaking of which, I also found a reaper dark elf apothecary, of all things, so that'll go to my pal who started me on this nonsense...
And that's me at 368! Achievement unlocked!
Graven

Congrats on achieving your goal!

Very cool old-school BB models, loving the tentacles!

I have never really enjoyed BloodBowl for all the same reasons that I don't enjoy American Football. That said, I do like your work on the models.

endtransmission wrote:Congrats on achieving your goal!

I'm not sure I'd call it a goal so much as an unfortunate outcome

Slinky wrote:Very cool old-school BB models, loving the tentacles!

Thanks pal, yeah I'm loving the retro minis.

JoshInJapan wrote:I have never really enjoyed BloodBowl for all the same reasons that I don't enjoy American Football. That said, I do like your work on the models.

Well, I am not a sports fan of any variety, but I love mantic's dreadball and I was inspired by your oldhammer minotaurs which took me back to my youth.
And in the meantime...

Greebo Games Khorne Demons!

The unarmoured ones will be Chosen with the Minotaurs, the armoured extra Khorngors, and the big guy will be the Khorne... big guy.

Pretty happy with how they've turned out in the end. I am fairly sure that I have some half painted Impact! Elves somewhere too that I was going to repurpose for Dreadball. To the attic!
Graven

It's fun seeing some Blood Bowl, I still need to work on my teams.

Syro_ wrote:It's fun seeing some Blood Bowl, I still need to work on my teams.

Yeah I'm enjoying it actually. The painting at least not played it yet of course...
So on that note: here come the elves!

The Glass Ninjas strike back!

This is an Impact! Miniatures team that were caked in paint. The metals are of inconsistent quality and a bit derpy but they have a pleasing oldhammer vibe.

I'm going to mount them on 32mm mdf discs which I'll mark up with the NAF colours, and I'll probably add some lines and splatter but they're basically done.

Wood elves are in stripping next, and khorne next for paint!
Graven

Pretty good, slight derpiness notwithstanding

Slinky wrote:Pretty good, slight derpiness notwithstanding

TBH I'm kinda fond of the derpiness because of its Oldhammer vibes.

A little WIP update: more progress on the Khorne team.

The two sets - Gw and Greebo Games - work really well together, and the oldhammer sorcerer makes a decent apothecary I reckon. Should be done before the end of the month, and I'll pick 5 for the dakka contest.
Have a great Xmas etc my lovelies, and cya on the other side!

 inmygravenimage wrote:
Yeah I'm enjoying it actually. The painting at least not played it yet of course...

Of course
Three years since I bought Blood Bowl and haven't even gotten the plastic off the rule book yet, haven't built any of my teams either.

I'm liking how your teams are coming out. I hope you get to play sometime.

Well now. Had xmas. Made, and ate, a lot of food. Wife and I don't really do gifts to one another, though she did get me a set of incredibly tiny polyhedrals, plus got some quality nerd shirts from the kids and the Vallejo Game Color set from my folks which was most excellent. Which allowed me to put the finishing touches to the Krampus Killers!

Very happy with how the whole gang have turned out, and that they look like a single unified team despite the mix of companies and eras.

Starting retro, the oldhammer sorcerer (who's going to be an itinerant if not wandering apothecary) and kitbash chainsaw wielding star player.

Khorngors. Love these, very simple head sculpt variations out of the box. Just a shame that you CLEARLY want 4. Might need to try to track down some plastic bestigors or suchlike for conversion.

Gw Linesmen. 3 sculpts, 6 head options. Reposed some hands a bit too.

Greebo Linesmen. 9 fantastic sculpts, look great against the gw ones too.

Bloodseekers. 2 body sculpts and 2 heads is 4 satisfyingly different looks.

So a very enjoyable festive project.

Speaking of festive, painted up this lovely lass from my Reaper Advent calendar


Modded the base, added the tentacle and so on. I'm going to use her as a Mariner (deckhand) for Carnevale, I don't own one and am not convinced I need one, but this is a good way of testing the water.

Very productive December! And with 423 for the year that's just over the score for '22. Didn't expect that!

Next up, well, need to build the wood elf team. Got the Mcp core set minis and terrain to paint, and the Black Spectre for January's dakka contest, along with a ruined building. 2024 shaping up interesting!

Thanks for sticking around,
Graven

What a productive year graven - great innings!

Love the blood bowl projects - I've had a human team sitting on my to-do list since the new edition dropped. Need to get around to them - and your bases are providing a bit of spark!

Thanks for sharing - here's to another big year in 24.

tzurk wrote:What a productive year graven - great innings!

Love the blood bowl projects - I've had a human team sitting on my to-do list since the new edition dropped. Need to get around to them - and your bases are providing a bit of spark!

Thanks for sharing - here's to another big year in 24.

And thank YOU for swinging by, and the kind words. The basing is just army painter grass, mostly.

Snuck in a wee extra before the year is out, painted up a Reaper Witch (advent calendar again) as a Blood Crone for the boy's Strigoi.

Gypsies are not a subfaction he has much of but, like me with the Mariner, this is a way of trying her out.

Rubble courtesy of AoS. And speaking of the Mariner.

And alongside our current Gypsy and Moon Eater.

424. NOW I'm done for the year

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year graven! Very nice work on the young lady.

Gitsplitta wrote:Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year graven! Very nice work on the young lady.

To you too old chum! And many thanks

Starting the new year with the old... oldhammer, that is

Rescued these two off eBay, caked in years of paint. Green Stuff World stripper is MAGIC.

Very pleased to channel the old school cool of these lads.

And alongside a Beastman Linesman and the team "apothecary". They actually need a team name, I'm thinking the Retro Raiders?
I've got my eye on a cheap classic Ogre too, so that would complete the lineup. Going to party like it 1993

Also picked up a couple of the Mini of the Month Kilgores, which are now reborn as Khorngors:

Pretty straightforward conversions, should paint up nice.

Other than that for Blood Bowl, the desk currently has the stripped (stripper?) Wood Elf team built and a goblin one-man band that will do double-duty as both a BB fan and a Moonstone villager. Reaper make the BEST quirky townsfolk minis Picked up the Vampire team for Elder Spawn as the only way he'll play is anything Undead strange child. Also need to get on with the new MCP Core Set and the Black Spectre for Carnevale. Trying to go on a spending hiatus otherwise, might try to use 2024 to tackle board game minis. We shall see...
Thanks for sticking around
Graven

Great job on those old Blood Bowl minis graven! Really plucks at my heart strings!

Gitsplitta wrote:Great job on those old Blood Bowl minis graven! Really plucks at my heart strings!

Well you HAVE to love a bit of oldhammer, right? I mean, they're not eldar, but still

So, hobby goals for this year.
Let's take stock a bit more formally:

Blood Bowl
Wood Elf Team x16 (built, unprimed)
Vampire Team x10 inc tokens (unbuilt, unprimed)
Goblin fan (built, primed)
Khorne Team x3 (2 kitbash Khorngors and another Khorne Linesman found in bottom of a box; built, primed)

Carnevale
The Black Spectre (built, primed)
Deep One sorcerer (built, primed)

MCP
Heroes x6 (built, primed)
Villains x7 (built, primed)
Assorted Terrain (built, primed)
Range Rulers (built, primed)

Star Trek Away Missions (board game minis technically, but should keep me busy)
Federation Away Team x4 (built, unprimed)
Romulan Away Team x5 (built, unprimed)
Klingon Away Team x5 (built, unprimed)
Borg Away Team x6 (built, unprimed)
Q x2 (built, unprimed)

Randoms
Assorted Fantasy townsfolk and RPG characters (these will be done for my middle spawn if he wants stuff for his D&D game)
Enough Khorne bits to make World Eater KT x5 (maybe)

I have some other board games with minis of varying quality - Unfathomable has many Deep Ones, a couple of which have already been repurposed for Carnevale, plus Dagon and Hydra, Talisman 4th and Heroquest reissue have some okayish plastic minis, that sort of thing... they may see the painting table.

Thanks for sticking around
Graven

Beautiful work on those old metal gems mate.

Have you managed to tee up a game of Blood Bowl yet? These guys deserve to see some action!

Looks like you've got your work cut out for you moving forward - good luck ticking items off that list!

tzurk wrote:Beautiful work on those old metal gems mate.

Have you managed to tee up a game of Blood Bowl yet? These guys deserve to see some action!

Looks like you've got your work cut out for you moving forward - good luck ticking items off that list!

Thanks pal! Sadly they have not yet got on the gridiron, which is why I'm going to do my eldest a vampire team - breed your own opponent!

Well, when it comes to ticking things off, had to start with the monthly contest entry.

The Black Spectre, an unholy fusion of father and son, fuelled by rage, resentment and the arcane energies of the Rent.

A being of living shadow with its victims caught in it ethereal form.

I really enjoyed doing the mask(s)

The model is usual shown with hands that are made from shadow, but I wanted a different look, for colour variation as much as anything else.

Loved doing this. All came together in the end, once I figured out my colours.

Next up, Crisis Protocol! ... mebbe.
Graven

Eww, that's v creepy. Good paintjob though

The Black Spectre is excellent. Blood Bowls always a good laugh...

I do love me some Oldhammer Chaos Warriors.

The Black Spectre turned out well-- the giant fleshy hands coming out of the black ectoplasm is a wonderfully creepy touch.

Slinky wrote:Eww, that's v creepy. Good paintjob though

thanks

Llamahead wrote:The Black Spectre is excellent. Blood Bowls always a good laugh...

Cheers! I'm determined to actually PLAY some blood bowl at some point

JoshInJapan wrote:I do love me some Oldhammer Chaos Warriors.

The Black Spectre turned out well-- the giant fleshy hands coming out of the black ectoplasm is a wonderfully creepy touch.

Tbh oldhammer isn't a hard sell here on dakka is it? thanks buddy, yeah in the absence of the promo trans purple version of the Spectre this has worked out OK.

Clearing the decks, I've finished up my Khorne team with the converted Kilgores

Really think the conversion has worked.

And another linesman.

And every team needs support, so how about this Goblin one-man band?

Or should that be one fan band?

He's also a fun addition the to Moonstone villagers.
I also stuck my entire Elven Union team, The Crystal Cannons, onto mdf discs with the position colours:

Mcp on the desk, as are the Sylvan Syrens, sulty Wood Elf team. Not sure which will get the attention first. Definitely on a Blood Bowl kick for now.
Graven

That's an impressive list graven... and a great way to start off!